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[Madman198237]

EPBA: (2) TricMagic, Madman
Armor Belt Reconfiguration: (1) Nemonole

Save the die: (1) Kashyyk
1 Revision: (2) TricMagic, Madman, Nemonole

Problem nonspecified, solution nonspecific.

[m1895]

EPBA: (3) TricMagic, Madman, m1895
Armor Belt Reconfiguration: (1) Nemonole

Save the die: (1) Kashyyk
1 Revision: (3) TricMagic, Madman, Nemonole

[Happerry]

EPBA: (3) TricMagic, Madman, m1895
Armor Belt Reconfiguration: (2) Nemonole, Happerry

Save the die: (1) Kashyyk
1 Revision: (4) TricMagic, Madman, Nemonole, Happerry

[piratejoe]

Pregame Revision Phase of Turn 4:

Emergency Prewar Battleship Alterations
We don't actually know anything about where all the spare weight went in the Pompey Magnus-class battleships. Perhaps there's a secret smuggling compartment in the hull somewhere, we're not sure. Regardless, with war looming we've exercised our grand new authority to threaten the designers with death if they don't get it right, so with this new motivational ideology in mind we've sent the designers to go bring back the expected weights, armor thicknesses, and so on according to the original design and not the glorified overweight armored cruiser they delivered.

Effectiveness: 2

As it turns out, threatening the designers behind closed doors with death is...not exactly the best idea to do in an actual republic with laws and regulations. Especially when war hasn't properly broken out yet and given us more...extrajudicial powers. Of course, you can get away with it if it's hidden under the rug and the right strings pulled to frame them. But when one of them is brave enough to actually leak everything to the public and manages to do so, things tend to not go too well. Doubly so when they are crafty enough to not give it away and only release enough to make them look like poor engineers just doing their best. This has caused the time that should have been spent by the engineers looking at the flaws of the ship and fixing them to instead be taken up by a governmental anti corruption campaign caused by the public backlash, especially from the more liberal and worse, socialist minded people in our nation, and lead to a number of arrests. Thankfully, no one important was taken but the damage was already done by taking up so much of our time through investigation and questionings.

At the very least the incident didn't cause an embarrassment for the navy, more so ruining the reputation of only a few people thanks to the government's swift response. And while we can't fix most of the problems, we found them. The reason the ship is so overweight is due to a mix of the belt being extended below the water line by a few feet due to the ship being overweight, the internal compartmentalization being built to an extent that, while providing extra durability and with a thickness that adds protection from splintering, adds a lot of weight, and lastly the magazine being built with a fairly hefty capacity. Though, for the most part the issue is the internal structure. Through this, we cut a bit of the belt in order to get an extra inch of armor thickness, and a bit of the magazine for an extra inch on the turrets but the total redesign of the internal structure and it's walls which takes up most of the weight was beyond our engineers ability in the short time they had left.



It is time...Build your legacy fleet! Be sure to include the names of the ships...or don't and let the shipyards make up their own. You have 100 PP for this, and each ship will cost only one season's worth of build time.
Do note, the first ship of each class will share its name, at least, generally speaking. If you do something like the V class or Tribal class, then things will be a bit different.

Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

None

Spoiler: Technology (click to show/hide)

Naval
Early 2/3/4/5/6/7/9/10/12 inch guns
Triple-expansion engines.
Early steam turbine engines.
Steel hull construction.
Single Casemates.
Single and Double gun turrets.
Decent Rangefinder
Composizione B Steel.
Montagne Acciaierie Armor Steel
Basic Damage control techniques.

Marines & Installations
Defensive guns (Uses same calibers as naval guns)
Magdala N90 Fucile (Basic Bolt Action Rifle)
Sette d'oro 87 Rivoltella (Basic Revolver)

Spoiler: Ship Classes (click to show/hide)

Lepidus class Light Cruiser: The Lepidus class is a blisteringly fast Light Armored Cruiser, or Light Cruiser, which has a good deal of armor that compliments it's speed. It's arguably undergunned but it's ability to pick it's fights, it's main prey being cargo ships, torpedo boat destroyers, and protected cruisers, should do enough to offset that. Especially with the addition of torpedoes. Costs 5/2, takes 4 seasons to build.

Pompey Magnus Class Battleship:Arguably a miniature battleship, one that could be payed with whatever is in ones pocket compared to the price of true battleships, the Pompey Magnus class is...arguably mediocre. Yet, mediocracy in many numbers is a good thing. The ship is quite well armored and armed, though in part due to this it is slightly overweight, which could cause problems. Only costs 7/2, takes 6 seasons to build.
Refits of the Pompey Magnus Class:
Belt and Magazine Adjustments (BMA): Modification utilizing the overweight nature of the ship to cut down on the lower section of the belt in order to add a inch of armor to the rest of it, along with modification to the magazine in order to add another foot to the turret's armor.

Spoiler: Ships (click to show/hide)

Also none at the moment

Spoiler: Land Instillation's, Schools, & Dock Size (click to show/hide)

10,000 Displacement Dry docks.

[Kashyyk]

We can split the PP evenly, and get 10 Lepidus Cruisers and 7 Pompey Magnus Battleships, although that does leave a single PP unspent.

Alternatively, we can go for 5 Battleships and 13 Cruisers, if we want to spend the exact budget.

Of course, we could also push for mainly battleships, as they take longer to build.

Thoughts?

[Madman198237]

I'm thinking five battleships and 13 cruisers; the cruisers are more flexible and we might as well use every single point available to us. Furthermore the cruisers are probably going to be more effective, at least initially.

Build 13 Lepidus-class cruisers and 5 Pompey Magnus-class battleships.

Cruisers:
Lepidus (CL-1)
Vettius (CL-2)
Curio (CL-3)
Vitellius (CL-4)
Bibulus (CL-5)
Cato the Younger (CL-6)
Brutus (CL-7)
Labienus (CL-8)
Horatius (CL-9)
Clodius (CL-10)
Virgil (CL-11)
Cassius (CL-12)
Lucullus (CL-13)


Battleships:
Pompey Magnus (BB-1)
Crassus (BB-2)
Marcus Antonius (BB-3)
Octavius Augustus (BB-4)
Julius Caesar (BB-5)

Well here's what I've got so far given that we don't have a map.

War Plan Red: (1) Madman

There, have vote

[TricMagic]

War Plan Red: (2) Madman, TricMagic

[Kashyyk]

War Plan Red: (3) Madman, TricMagic, Kashyyk

Yeah, I'll support this.

[Jilladilla]

Onwards!

War Plan Red: (4) Madman, TricMagic, Kashyyk, Nemonole

[piratejoe]

Summer, 1895, Design Phase.

Thanks to the aggressive actions and obstruction by the socialists of Veenland, we are officially at a state of war. It was only natural that it would come to this though considering what our southern neighbor is. Still, given the power and prestige of our navy, it will be quite easy for their pitiful cruisers to be sent to the bottom where they won't be such an eyesore. Even so it is important to remember that our hold on the two islands that are contested is...tenuous at best. Though provided more marines and fod- erm, army soldiers are sent we will be able to hold and push them back...Ideally. Unlike ourselves our enemy gained their independence on land rather than sea, so it's best to prevent them from actually getting a foothold on anything, otherwise they'll likely cause issues.

Regardless, you aren't being payed to lay about, and as such it's best to get to work, and soon. Additionally, it is wise to keep in mind that the enemy is reported to have anywhere between seven to twenty ships...It's not much to go off of, but our intelligence did the best they could, what with the mess that is the Veenland bureaucracy of unions and so forth...Also of concern is that they seem to have put a focus on education, given a fancy university they have that's supported by their tiny navy...

It should be mentioned that, while our tradition of being at sea has done wonders for our crew's skill, some of our captains and crews are better than others, though they and our crews likely only need a few months at sea to be in good order.


With the Power and Prestige our Navy holds, and the start of conflict, we have 104 PP, and are bound to get more as our economy turns onto a war footing.

Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

None

Spoiler: Technology (click to show/hide)

Naval
Early 2/3/4/5/6/7/9/10/12 inch guns
Triple-expansion engines.
Early steam turbine engines.
Steel hull construction.
Single Casemates.
Single and Double gun turrets.
Decent Rangefinder
Composizione B Steel.
Montagne Acciaierie Armor Steel
Basic Damage control techniques.

Marines & Installations
Defensive guns (Uses same calibers as naval guns)
Magdala N90 Fucile (Basic Bolt Action Rifle)
Sette d'oro 87 Rivoltella (Basic Revolver)

Spoiler: Ship Classes (click to show/hide)

Lepidus class Light Cruiser: The Lepidus class is a blisteringly fast Light Armored Cruiser, or Light Cruiser, which has a good deal of armor that compliments it's speed. It's arguably undergunned but it's ability to pick it's fights, it's main prey being cargo ships, torpedo boat destroyers, and protected cruisers, should do enough to offset that. Especially with the addition of torpedoes. Costs 5/2, takes 4 seasons to build.

Pompey Magnus Class Battleship:Arguably a miniature battleship, one that could be payed with whatever is in ones pocket compared to the price of true battleships, the Pompey Magnus class is...arguably mediocre. Yet, mediocracy in many numbers is a good thing. The ship is quite well armored and armed, though in part due to this it is slightly overweight, which could cause problems. Only costs 7/2, takes 6 seasons to build.
Refits of the Pompey Magnus Class:
Belt and Magazine Adjustments (BMA): Modification utilizing the overweight nature of the ship to cut down on the lower section of the belt in order to add a inch of armor to the rest of it, along with modification to the magazine in order to add another inch to the turret's armor.

Spoiler: Ship Class Cards (click to show/hide)

Lepidus Class

Pompey Magnus Class W BMA modification

Spoiler: Ships (click to show/hide)

CL - Light Cruiser
Lepidus Class, 13 ships, 26 Maintenance
Lepidus | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Eginardo Marino is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Vettius | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Bindo Zocco is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Curio | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Verulo Di Miceli is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Vitellius | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Gianpietro Nocella is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Bibulus | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Alessandro Ferro is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Cato the Younger | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Mattia Cason is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Brutus | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Ildefonso Santoli is captain, Trained, Balanced
Labienus | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Azelio Guastella is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Horatius | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Cremenzio Parziale is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Clodius | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Euclide Iantosca is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced
Virgil | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Ursmaro Battaglia  is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced
Cassius | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Bassiano Senatore is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced
Lucullus | CL | No Refit | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Beato Imondi is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced

B - Pre Dreadnaught Battleship
Pompey Magnus Class, 5 ships, 10 Maintenance
Pompey Magnus | B | BMA | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Rodolfo Colasurdo is captain, Greenhorn, Cautious
Crassus | B | BMA | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Donatello Cortesi is captain, Greenhorn, Cautious
Marcus Antonius | B | BMA | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Liberio Irene is captain, Greenhorn, Cautious
Octavius Augustus | B | BMA | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Greenhorn | Undamaged | Aronne Serianni is captain, Greenhorn, Cautious
Julius Caesar | B | BMA | Currently assigned to Peacetime Patrols | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Corbiniano Ugolini is captain, Greenhorn, Cautious

Spoiler: Land Instillation's, Schools, & Dock Size (click to show/hide)

10,000 Displacement Dry docks.

104PP, 36 Maintenance.

[Kashyyk]

Considering the original was designed almost 30 years ago, this is gonna be an easy design, possibly revision grade. Still worth doing though.

This is where we would go on at length about specifications and capabilites of the item, but who are we kidding? This is obviously just a homegrown version of the Whitehead Torpedo. Exact dimensions depend on our existing submerged torpedo tubes.

To compound on our large number of ships, let's start shooting faster.

Starting with the currently-in-use 3", 5" 6" and 12" calibres, each gun has been updated to sit in line with the major powers of the world. Hydraulics aligned with the weapon are used to absorb recoil, seeing the gun back in positron more quickly. Inserting a brass shell containing the projectile, a pre-measured portions of propellant and primer via the breech will reduce load times. Speaking of propellant, using smokeless powder will mean gun crews won't have to wait for smoke to clear before being able to relay the gun. All together it should make a substantial boost in performance.

[Kashyyk]

Double post it is!

(1) QF Gun Series : Kashyyk

[Happerry]

(2) QF Gun Series : Kashyyk, Happerry

[Madman198237]

Cannone Navale 5"/45 caliber M1895
A brand-new naval cannon built to the most modern standards, the M1895 5"/45 is made for our new war, and should be a solid backbone for our fleets for years to come. It uses a more powerful and stable propellant to reduce the length of case necessary to develop the high velocities its long barrel can reach. It more precisely machined rifling than previous standards of guns to improve its accuracy even over long ranges. Finally, the gun incorporates a few additional improvements to the breech block that allows it to be fired and reloaded faster than the previous 5" standard weapons as well. The gun fires metal-cased, single-piece ammunition to allow it to be loaded quickly. We've worked on the high explosive shells to give them the best possible bursting charge for their size, and ensured that the armor-piercing shells detonate reliably after passing through enemy armor belts.

Designs
(2) QF Gun Series : Kashyyk, Happerry
(1) Cannone Navale 5"/45 caliber M1895: Madman

Dice Expenditure (6 dice total)
One Design (3 dice): (1) Madman

I assume that the QF gun series is meant to be a design?

[Jilladilla]

And here is a vote for "JUST GET IT OVER WITH"...

Designs
(3) QF Gun Series : Kashyyk, Happerry, Nemonole
(1) Cannone Navale 5"/45 caliber M1895: Madman

Dice Expenditure (6 dice total)
One Design (3 dice): (2) Madman, Nemonole