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[Aseaheru]

Plan Finish What we Started w/ Modernized Arsenal (2) Iris, Aseaheru

[Khang36]

Plan Finish What we Started w/ Modernized Arsenal (3) Iris, Aseaheru,khang36

[piratejoe]

Summer, 1896, Design Phase.
Top Turbine Technology (2 die spent. 1 rushed)

1+3+6+5=15 (5, no bugs)

Despite, or perhaps  because of our extensive rush to finish the turbines, we actually managed to get so much done that there was a sizable amount of time where our engineers spent their time doing...well...nothing. At least, nothing with direct orders anyway. They didn't just spend a whole month standing around doing nothing after all, though their work wasn't exactly unified during that time, even if it was focused on the turbines. That time did however allow any errors or overcorrections done during the rush to be fixed in advance, though there weren't that many to begin with anyway. Regardless, it might be best to work on a redesign of some of our ships to incorporate the new engines as a refit. Though, any refit to existing ships for the new engines will likely take a fair bit of time...

Compromis Halverwege Zwaar Artillerieproject (1 die spent. 1 rushed)

15+2+5=22 (6, no bugs)

Much like the turbines, there is some time that, due to our rushing, is left spare, though the project only finished a week before the deadline. Much like the turbines, there weren't any errors that weren't patched out before the finished designs were shipped off, with the obvious difference that they were sent to the various Unions of Armaments rather than the Machinist Union, but otherwise the end result is the same. Unlike the turbines though, refitting our ships which can use the guns shouldn't be that difficult. Mostly because other than the Compromise Class there isn't any ship which uses any of the guns that we have built yet. Though, some modifications are needed to the turrets of the Resoluut class due to the half an inch difference. But nothing that will require that much work to add...Hopefully it doesn't add to the weight too much though.


It is now the Revision & Refit phase of Summer, 1896. You have 3 dice remaining
(You can just vote for the same plan again if you want, since it includes the revision phase.)

Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

Resoluut-Class | 2/4 Seasons to Completion | Battleship | 7/2 PP cost | 6 Season Construction Time

Spoiler: Technology (click to show/hide)

Naval
Early 7/12 inch guns
QF 2/3/4/5/6 M1895 guns (Cheap price. Rifling wears out at an average pace. 20k max range estimate for 6 inch version, 10k effective range.)
8/10/11.5 M1895 guns. (Cheap price. Reliable and long lasting. 25k max range estimate for 11.5 inch version, 12.5k effective range.)
Early Armor Piercing
Early High Explosive
Modern Parachute Flares
Smoke Rounds
Shrapnel Rounds
Basic Surface Single Torpedo Launchers
Early Prototype Double Torpedo Launchers (Basically useless in current form)
Advanced Triple-expansion engines.
Intermediate Steam Turbine Engines.
Decent Boilers.
Early coal/oil hybrid firing.
Steel hull construction.
Prototype Hydrodynamic hulls.
Single Casemates.
Single and Double gun turrets.
Early Rangefinder.
Early Central Fire Control.
Möser-Fokker Cemented Armor.
Basic Damage control techniques.
Cordite Draadkruit Smokeless Powder. (Now cheaper and slightly less likely to copy the brits)
Zeeslang Mk3 Torpedo. (Somewhat reliable Torpedo with 37 knot speed and 3500 yard range)
Advanced Observatieballons.

Marines & Installations
Defensive guns (Uses same calibers as naval guns)
UVW T92G (Basic Bolt Action Rifle)
UVW T88R (Basic Revolver)
UVW T95MG "Stoommachine" (Early Machinegun)
Advanced Observatieballons

Spoiler: Ship Classes (click to show/hide)

Zeerover Speciale Kruiser: A modest high speed cruiser with a fairly sizable compliment of guns for dealing with any ships of equal size and armor along with anything smaller than it, and a few things above it. The submerged torpedo compliment also gives it a chance to punch well above it's weight, if it gets lucky. Fairly expensive though. Costs 5/2, 4 season construction time.

Compromise Class: An effective, slightly overweight shore defense ship with powerful guns and substantial, high quality armor. Quite fast for a ship of it's armor and armament, not far off from our cruisers. Costs 6/3, 5 season construction time.
Main Gun Refit (MGR): A simple replacement of the main 10 inch guns with the modern M1895 versions. Costs 1PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.

A1-Klasse: A extremely fast Torpedo Boat Destroyer with a good compliment of guns and modest torpedo armament. The bridge is armored enough to be safe from splinters, barring a direct hit. It should be noted however the engine cannot run at full speed for much longer than a hour without running into issues. Costs 3/2, 3 season construction time.

Resoluut Class: A modest Battleship with a good armament of submerged torpedo mounts and 11.5 inch guns. The bridge isn't very armored unlike the rest of the ship, but that is fine, provided the tower isn't hit by any proper battleship shells. Though more cautious captains and officers can lead from rooms inside the ship rather than in the tower. Costs 7/2, 6 season construction time.

Spoiler: Ship Class Cards (click to show/hide)

Zeerover Class

Compromise Class

A1-Klasse

Resoluut Class

Spoiler: Unassigned captains (click to show/hide)

Kobus Zwakenberg, Greenhorn, Aggressive

Spoiler: Ships (click to show/hide)

TBD - Torpedo Boat Destroyer
A-1 Klasse, 4 ships, 12 Maintenance.
A-1 | TBD | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-2 | TBD | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-3 | TBD | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-4 | TBD | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost

SK - Speciale Kruiser
Zeerover Class, 10 ships, 29 Maintenance
Zeerover | SK | No Refit | Currently unassigned  | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | David Streithorst is captain, Trained, Balanced
Pirat | SK | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Heavy damage, 2 seasons | Pieter-Jan Geurtse is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Avonturier | SK | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Heavy damage, 2 seasons | Thijn Seijnen is captain, Trained, Balanced
Geest | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group B | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Bartje Brugmans is captain, Trained, Balanced
SK 6 | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Working Up | Crew are Poor | Undamaged | Sibren ten Bouwhuis is captain, Trained, Aggressive
SK 7 | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Working Up | Crew are Poor | Undamaged | Mathies ten Hermsel is captain, Trained, Balanced
SK 8 | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost
SK 9 | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost
SK 10 | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost


CDS - Costal Defense Ship
Compromise Class, 9 ships, 45 Maintenance
The Union | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Christiaan Mol is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Herman Van Veen | CDS | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group C | Crew are Trained | Heavy damage, 1 season. | Egbert Hazenkamp is captain, Trained, Cautious
Lourens van Vilet | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Marlijn de Wal is captain, Trained, Balanced
Eldert Schimmelpennink | CDS | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group D | Crew are Trained | Heavy damage, 1 season. | Lindert Knuif is captain, Trained, Cautious. Wounded 1 turn
Reinout van Diermen | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Piet Bisschop is captain, Trained, Balanced
CDS 6 | CDS | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost
CDS 7 | CDS | No Refit |Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost
CDS 8 | CDS | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost
CDS 9 | CDS | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 4 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost

Spoiler: Land Instillation's, Schools, & Dock Size (click to show/hide)

Veenland National School of the Navy (Costs 15 PP to maintain)
One 6 inch battery at Buskruithof, Sparrendijkje, Berenberg, Diepput, Bloemenheide, Marvinsburg

10,000 Displacement Dry docks.
(98) 93 remaining PP, 86 Maintenance.

[Khang36]

revisions:

Spoiler: Maritime Infantry Modernization Program (click to show/hide)

Events show that our marines, and also the army, have fallen slightly behind the Mongadizafrian forces in terms of smallarms, to this end a crash joint-project with the army has been embarked upon to close up this gap.
This development takes force in four areas; longarms, sidearms, utility, and protection. Details are as follows:

Longarms; Carbines and long rifles have been replaced with a universal short rifle, loading from an en-bloc clip. This rifle is equipped with a sword bayonet(mostly at army request), possesses aperture sights ranged for 200 meters as their default setting(with a flip-up ladder for whatever ranges the army desires), is designed to launch rifle grenades(see ‘utility’), and is no more than 4 kilos in weight(unloaded) and 1200mm long. Ammunition commonality is to be kept with existing stocks and production, although improvements to the ammunition(such as improved form factors, jacketing the bullets, or suchlike) are permitted to be worked on.

Sidearms: our current revolvers are to be replaced with a semi-automatic handgun loaded from a box magazine, preferably detachable. Two versions of this weapon exist, the first a standard officers model with a 110mm barrel and notch sights for 50m; and the second the “support pistol” model with a 200mm barrel and a flip-up ladder sight for 200m, intended for support troops(artillery crews, calvary, engineers, NCOs, etc.) or assault troops in roles such as boarding of vessels where even a short rifle is too long. Both models of pistol are able to be equipped with a stock, primarily for prepared assaults.

Utility: This takes the form primarily in the form of hand grenades, but also includes miscellaneous items, uniform improvements based on wartime experience and things such as standardized demolitions charges. The hand grenades are to take two forms, a smoke grenade, and a high-explosive grenade. Either form, when fitted to an adaptor, is designed to be fired from the universal short rifle loaded with blank ammunition(see ‘longarms’). This grenade launching system is also utilized for a line-throwing system, mountable in place of the bayonet. These grenades, when launched from a rifle, are to have a range of 50-150m.

Protection: With our ongoing experiences with modern warfare, it has become apparent that one of the primary methods of injury and death amongst our troops is head wounds from shrapnel or falling debris. To counter this, a series of helmets are to be developed, one for general use and the other for communications troops onboard our vessels, with their telephone headsets and all. This section also includes work on other methods of keeping our people safe, such as ways to make themselves less likely to be seen.

the TTT is beautiful, a marvel of what the free people of Veenland are capable of, perfection if one was so bold to claim, but what the navy needs is not perfection but good enough. The CTT calls for a total review of turbine design in collaboration with the relevant manufacturers unions to find cost saving measures, with the priority to getting maintenance cost down

    This revision project has its goal in reducing costs of A1 class destroyer production, focusing on the streamlining of production and, to a minor extent, bringing design elements to modern versions of the equipment.
    Of particular focus are the turbines replacing the costly prototype design with our hopefully cheaper TTT design

Plan

Maritime Infantry Modernization Program
cutback Turbine Technology
A1 Cost Revision

stick to the plan in detail(1): Khang36

[Aseaheru]

Stick to the Plan In Detail(2) | Khang36, AseaHeru

[Iris]

Looks good to me.

Stick to the Plan In Detail(3) | Khang36, AseaHeru, Iris

[piratejoe]

Summer, 1896, Revision & Refit Phase.

Spoiler: Maritime Infantry Modernization Program (click to show/hide)

Events show that our marines, and also the army, have fallen slightly behind the Mongadizafrian forces in terms of smallarms, to this end a crash joint-project with the army has been embarked upon to close up this gap.
This development takes force in four areas; longarms, sidearms, utility, and protection. Details are as follows:

Longarms; Carbines and long rifles have been replaced with a universal short rifle, loading from an en-bloc clip. This rifle is equipped with a sword bayonet(mostly at army request), possesses aperture sights ranged for 200 meters as their default setting(with a flip-up ladder for whatever ranges the army desires), is designed to launch rifle grenades(see ‘utility’), and is no more than 4 kilos in weight(unloaded) and 1200mm long. Ammunition commonality is to be kept with existing stocks and production, although improvements to the ammunition(such as improved form factors, jacketing the bullets, or suchlike) are permitted to be worked on.

Sidearms: our current revolvers are to be replaced with a semi-automatic handgun loaded from a box magazine, preferably detachable. Two versions of this weapon exist, the first a standard officers model with a 110mm barrel and notch sights for 50m; and the second the “support pistol” model with a 200mm barrel and a flip-up ladder sight for 200m, intended for support troops(artillery crews, calvary, engineers, NCOs, etc.) or assault troops in roles such as boarding of vessels where even a short rifle is too long. Both models of pistol are able to be equipped with a stock, primarily for prepared assaults.

Utility: This takes the form primarily in the form of hand grenades, but also includes miscellaneous items, uniform improvements based on wartime experience and things such as standardized demolitions charges. The hand grenades are to take two forms, a smoke grenade, and a high-explosive grenade. Either form, when fitted to an adaptor, is designed to be fired from the universal short rifle loaded with blank ammunition(see ‘longarms’). This grenade launching system is also utilized for a line-throwing system, mountable in place of the bayonet. These grenades, when launched from a rifle, are to have a range of 50-150m.

Protection: With our ongoing experiences with modern warfare, it has become apparent that one of the primary methods of injury and death amongst our troops is head wounds from shrapnel or falling debris. To counter this, a series of helmets are to be developed, one for general use and the other for communications troops onboard our vessels, with their telephone headsets and all. This section also includes work on other methods of keeping our people safe, such as ways to make themselves less likely to be seen.

Effectiveness: 6

Once more the joint project that brings the branches of the forces of the military together have born fruit. The first of the join projects has resulted in the new UVW T96G, which is a highly effective improvement over the old rifle with a long bayonet, six rounds loaded via en bloc, and is quite reliable. Further, thanks to an idea by the general Rutger Buyskes has resulted in the creation of the UVW T96 Springstoffen, affectionately nicknamed by the troops as the "Mini Coehoorn" due to what it effectively makes the rifles it's affixed to into. Other than this there is the UVW T96SAP and it's service variant, both with a few optional modifications like a stock. It has 12 rounds and fires as fast as one can pull the trigger, though while likely one of the most reliable semi auto pistol in the world right now, that doesn't say that much relatively speaking. Still, it's solid, though it's caliber is a bit lacking. The last things of note are the UVW T96HG which is a simple hand grenade on a sizable cudgel like stick, though it is designed similarly to the Coehoorn and designed to be thrown similar to a spear after the handle a the bottom is twisted to prime the explosive. Other than this, there is also the UVW T96S shovel that is being distributed to most soldiers and the UVW T96M knife, similarly distributed. Lastly, there is the UVW T96H "Emmer Helm" which has a distinct design that makes it look similar to a bucket, hence the affectionate nickname. Most of this equipment is fairly easy to make and won't take too long to get to our forces, and will surely out preform them and then some. On average this equipment should put us slightly above average compared to the enemies own kit except at close range in tight quarters. The helmet is also proof we clearly care about the defenders of the working class as much as we care about the working class.

the TTT is beautiful, a marvel of what the free people of Veenland are capable of, perfection if one was so bold to claim, but what the navy needs is not perfection but good enough. The CTT calls for a total review of turbine design in collaboration with the relevant manufacturers unions to find cost saving measures, with the priority to getting maintenance cost down

Effectiveness: 3

Work on cutbacks to the TTT is something that isn't met with much enthusiasm by the people who actually worked on the original project, but still done. A number of things are done to make ease of maintenance greater through simplification of the production on the replaceable parts along with making dividing the engine in a number of ways so as to allow easier access to portions that require maintenance while not shutting down the entire engine. This will increase the viability even in battle, provided the ship hit in the engines stays afloat long enough for them to be partially repaired but other than this mostly this process has ironically made the initial cost of the engines instillation more expensive, yet after it's maintenance has gone to roughly equivalent compared to the older ship engines. Regardless, there are further plans available to make the design cheaper, though at a cost to performance to the point that would make the effort of installing it less viable than one of the older engines.

    This revision project has its goal in reducing costs of A1 class destroyer production, focusing on the streamlining of production and, to a minor extent, bringing design elements to modern versions of the equipment.
    Of particular focus are the turbines replacing the costly prototype design with our hopefully cheaper TTT design

Effectiveness: 6

Work on streamlining the production of the A1 class has come down to two things, firstly, working with the new engine, and secondly, working on faster and more effective ways of creating the various segments of the small hull. This work has resulted in two things. Firstly, a drastic reduction of the maintenance cost of the smaller vessels due to further streamlining of the many parts of it mainly thanks to the engine, and secondly it has been a bit of a fight to work on how to manage to keep the costs of building it down despite the costs of the new engine. Luckily, thanks to a number of connections with the shipbuilder unions and a fair bit of ingenuity, we managed to keep the cost roughly the same as before while building at a major maintenance slash. Further, our work has opened up the doors for some potentially greater shipbuilding speed for lightly armored ships such as the A1 and cargo vessels should we put a good deal of effort into it. Though, such a project will likely result in us having to foot a bill to aid the shipbuilder unions. Though, this would have to be it's own project in the future.


It is now the Production&Strategy phase of Summer, 1896. You have 6 PP remaining should you pay for all maintenance and construction costs.

Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

Resoluut-Class | 2/4 Seasons to Completion | Battleship | 7/2 PP cost | 6 Season Construction Time

Spoiler: Technology (click to show/hide)

Naval
Early 7/12 inch guns
QF 2/3/4/5/6 M1895 guns (Cheap price. Rifling wears out at an average pace. 20k max range estimate for 6 inch version, 10k effective range.)
8/10/11.5 M1895 guns. (Cheap price. Reliable and long lasting. 25k max range estimate for 11.5 inch version, 12.5k effective range.)
Early Armor Piercing
Early High Explosive
Modern Parachute Flares
Smoke Rounds
Shrapnel Rounds
Basic Surface Single Torpedo Launchers
Early Prototype Double Torpedo Launchers (Basically useless in current form)
Advanced Triple-expansion engines.
Intermediate Steam Turbine Engines.
Decent Boilers.
Early coal/oil hybrid firing.
Steel hull construction.
Prototype Hydrodynamic hulls.
Single Casemates.
Single and Double gun turrets.
Early Rangefinder.
Early Central Fire Control.
Möser-Fokker Cemented Armor.
Basic Damage control techniques.
Cordite Draadkruit Smokeless Powder. (Now cheaper and slightly less likely to copy the brits)
Zeeslang Mk3 Torpedo. (Somewhat reliable Torpedo with 37 knot speed and 3500 yard range)
Advanced Observatieballons.

Marines & Installations
Defensive guns (Uses same calibers as naval guns)
UVW T92G (Basic Bolt Action Rifle)
UVW T96G (Bolt Action Rifle with 6 round magazine loaded with en blocs. Can use Mini Coehoorn. Reliable)
UVW T88R (Basic Revolver)
UVW T96SAP (Basic Semi Automatic pistol. Mostly reliable. Low bullet caliber. Variant for service crew and officers. Has 12 rounds)
UVW T95MG "Stoommachine" (Early Machinegun)
UVW T96S "Mini Coehoorn" (Rifle grenade. Usable by the T96G)
UVW T96HG (Simple Grenade.)
UVW T96H "Emmer Helm" (It's literally a steel helmet. What more do you expect?)
UVW T96S (Shovel/Entrenching tool)
UVW T96M (Knife)
Advanced Observatieballons

Spoiler: Ship Classes (click to show/hide)

Zeerover Speciale Kruiser: A modest high speed cruiser with a fairly sizable compliment of guns for dealing with any ships of equal size and armor along with anything smaller than it, and a few things above it. The submerged torpedo compliment also gives it a chance to punch well above it's weight, if it gets lucky. Fairly expensive though. Costs 5/2, 4 season construction time.

Compromise Class: An effective, slightly overweight shore defense ship with powerful guns and substantial, high quality armor. Quite fast for a ship of it's armor and armament, not far off from our cruisers. Costs 6/3, 5 season construction time.
Main Gun Refit (MGR): A simple replacement of the main 10 inch guns with the modern M1895 versions. Costs 1PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.

A1-Klasse: A extremely fast Torpedo Boat Destroyer with a good compliment of guns and modest torpedo armament. The bridge is armored enough to be safe from splinters, barring a direct hit. It should be noted however the engine cannot run at full speed for much longer than a hour without running into issues. Costs 3/2, 3 season construction time.
Top Turbine Streamline (TTS): A simple replacement of the prototype engine with the fruits of the Top Turbine Technology program. Naturally efforts were done to make the design cheaper to maintain in the process. This has limited performance improvements the new turbines can give, but has succeeded in making the ship cheaper. Costs 3/.75, 3 season construction time. (Maintenance rounds up)

Resoluut Class: A modest Battleship with a good armament of submerged torpedo mounts and 11.5 inch guns. The bridge isn't very armored unlike the rest of the ship, but that is fine, provided the tower isn't hit by any proper battleship shells. Though more cautious captains and officers can lead from rooms inside the ship rather than in the tower. Costs 7/2, 6 season construction time.

Spoiler: Ship Class Cards (click to show/hide)

Zeerover Class

Compromise Class

A1-Klasse

Resoluut Class

Spoiler: Unassigned captains (click to show/hide)

Kobus Zwakenberg, Greenhorn, Aggressive

Spoiler: Ships (click to show/hide)

TBD - Torpedo Boat Destroyer
A-1 Klasse, 4 ships, 12 Maintenance.
A-1 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-2 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-3 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-4 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost

SK - Speciale Kruiser
Zeerover Class, 10 ships, 29 Maintenance
Zeerover | SK | No Refit | Currently unassigned  | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | David Streithorst is captain, Trained, Balanced
Pirat | SK | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Heavy damage, 1 season | Pieter-Jan Geurtse is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Avonturier | SK | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Heavy damage, 1 season | Thijn Seijnen is captain, Trained, Balanced
Geest | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group B | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Bartje Brugmans is captain, Trained, Balanced
SK 6 | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Working Up | Crew are Poor | Undamaged | Sibren ten Bouwhuis is captain, Trained, Aggressive
SK 7 | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Working Up | Crew are Poor | Undamaged | Mathies ten Hermsel is captain, Trained, Balanced
SK 8 | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost
SK 9 | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost
SK 10 | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost


CDS - Costal Defense Ship
Compromise Class, 9 ships, 45 Maintenance
The Union | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Christiaan Mol is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Herman Van Veen | CDS | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group C | Crew are Trained | Heavy damage, 1 season. | Egbert Hazenkamp is captain, Trained, Cautious
Lourens van Vilet | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Marlijn de Wal is captain, Trained, Balanced
Eldert Schimmelpennink | CDS | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group D | Crew are Trained | Heavy damage, 1 season. | Lindert Knuif is captain, Trained, Cautious. Wounded 1 turn
Reinout van Diermen | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Piet Bisschop is captain, Trained, Balanced
CDS 6 | CDS | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost
CDS 7 | CDS | No Refit |Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost
CDS 8 | CDS | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost
CDS 9 | CDS | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 4 season remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost

Spoiler: Land Instillation's, Schools, & Dock Size (click to show/hide)

Veenland National School of the Navy (Costs 15 PP to maintain)
One 6 inch battery at Buskruithof, Sparrendijkje, Berenberg, Diepput, Bloemenheide, Marvinsburg

10,000 Displacement Dry docks.
(98) 93 remaining PP, 86 Maintenance.

[Khang36]

Shopping plans

2 A-class|TTS for 6 pp

expand dry docks
6 inch coastal battery on Baggerrots (yellow)
6 inch coastal batter on Nijzande (yellow)

naming ship
SK6: onderneming (enterprise)
SK7: rancune (spite)

battle plan

deployment plan
CTF1: Zeerover ,Geest
CTF2:onderneming [SK6], rancune[SK7]
CDTF:The Union,Lourens van Vilet
all ships will be deployed to the center islands with the goal of reversing Veenland's fortunes in this theater of operation.

ships will be based out of Goudwoude.(red)

CTF1, and CTF2 will be tasked with screening CDTF.

CDTF will be tasked with primarly seeking out and destroying any Magna battleships in the area.

in the event that there are minimal Magna naval presence in the AO, CDTF will instead be focused on coastal bombardment and supporting landings at Maartensbosch(green).
CTF1 and CTF2 will be detached to convoy escorting and commerce raiding.

in the event that there are no Magna ships in the area CTF2 will instead focus on work up and training. Gunnery drills use live munition on the port at Moncareggio.

Spoiler: map (click to show/hide)

shopping list
tin cans(1):Khang36
future plans(0):
battle plan
pushing back(1): Khang36

[Aseaheru]

SK8 | Wraak
SK9 | Vrijheid
SK10 | Bevrijder

CDS6 | Gustaaf ten Donkelaar
CDS7 | Hendrik-Jan Dangremond
CDS8 | Rogier van Beulingen
CDS9 | -Still unnamed, pending another name-

I think I actually prefer Future Plans over Tin Cans this turn...

shopping list
tin cans(1):Khang36
future plans(1):AseaHeru
battle plan
pushing back(1): Khang36
Abstain(1): AseaHeru

[Iris]

shopping list
tin cans(1):Khang36
future plans(2):AseaHeru, Iris
battle plan
pushing back(2): Khang36, Iris
Abstain(1): AseaHeru

[piratejoe]

Autumn, 1896, Design Phase.

While the center has reformed and held, things in the east are certainly not looking good. With luck, the new ships and their freshly trained crews will be able to help in turning the tide. Really, we need a major victory to force the Magna to kneel before things get particularly bad. (6, 4) Especially given our intelligence reports have corrected our last claims and provided proof that the Marcus Antonius, Lucullus, Labienus, Horatius and Virgil have not sunk. And given the last major report from our intelligence, this is fairly important...

The unions have allocated an additional 6 PP to our cause. Let the workers work and will pave the path of progress to victory.


It is now the Design phase of Autumn, 1896. You have 6 dice remaining.

Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

Resoluut-Class | 3/4 Seasons to Completion | Battleship | 7/2 PP cost | 6 Season Construction Time

Spoiler: Technology (click to show/hide)

Naval
Early 7/12 inch guns
QF 2/3/4/5/6 M1895 guns (Cheap price. Rifling wears out at an average pace. 20k max range estimate for 6 inch version, 10k effective range.)
8/10/11.5 M1895 guns. (Cheap price. Reliable and long lasting. 25k max range estimate for 11.5 inch version, 12.5k effective range.)
Early Armor Piercing
Early High Explosive
Modern Parachute Flares
Smoke Rounds
Shrapnel Rounds
Basic Surface Single Torpedo Launchers
Early Prototype Double Torpedo Launchers (Basically useless in current form)
Advanced Triple-expansion engines.
Intermediate Steam Turbine Engines.
Decent Boilers.
Early coal/oil hybrid firing.
Steel hull construction.
Prototype Hydrodynamic hulls.
Single Casemates.
Single and Double gun turrets.
Early Rangefinder.
Early Central Fire Control.
Möser-Fokker Cemented Armor.
Basic Damage control techniques.
Cordite Draadkruit Smokeless Powder. (Now cheaper and slightly less likely to copy the brits)
Zeeslang Mk3 Torpedo. (Somewhat reliable Torpedo with 37 knot speed and 3500 yard range)
Advanced Observatieballons.

Marines & Installations
Defensive guns (Uses same calibers as naval guns)
UVW T92G (Basic Bolt Action Rifle)
UVW T96G (Bolt Action Rifle with 6 round magazine loaded with en blocs. Can use Mini Coehoorn. Reliable)
UVW T88R (Basic Revolver)
UVW T96SAP (Basic Semi Automatic pistol. Mostly reliable. Low bullet caliber. Variant for service crew and officers. Has 12 rounds)
UVW T95MG "Stoommachine" (Early Machinegun)
UVW T96S "Mini Coehoorn" (Rifle grenade. Usable by the T96G)
UVW T96HG (Simple Grenade.)
UVW T96H "Emmer Helm" (It's literally a steel helmet. What more do you expect?)
UVW T96S (Shovel/Entrenching tool)
UVW T96M (Knife)
Advanced Observatieballons

Spoiler: Ship Classes (click to show/hide)

Zeerover Speciale Kruiser: A modest high speed cruiser with a fairly sizable compliment of guns for dealing with any ships of equal size and armor along with anything smaller than it, and a few things above it. The submerged torpedo compliment also gives it a chance to punch well above it's weight, if it gets lucky. Fairly expensive though. Costs 5/2, 4 season construction time.

Compromise Class: An effective, slightly overweight shore defense ship with powerful guns and substantial, high quality armor. Quite fast for a ship of it's armor and armament, not far off from our cruisers. Costs 6/3, 5 season construction time.
Main Gun Refit (MGR): A simple replacement of the main 10 inch guns with the modern M1895 versions. Costs 1PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.

A1-Klasse: A extremely fast Torpedo Boat Destroyer with a good compliment of guns and modest torpedo armament. The bridge is armored enough to be safe from splinters, barring a direct hit. It should be noted however the engine cannot run at full speed for much longer than a hour without running into issues. Costs 3/2, 3 season construction time.
Top Turbine Streamline (TTS): A simple replacement of the prototype engine with the fruits of the Top Turbine Technology program. Naturally efforts were done to make the design cheaper to maintain in the process. This has limited performance improvements the new turbines can give, but has succeeded in making the ship cheaper. Costs 3/.75, 3 season construction time. (Maintenance rounds up)

Resoluut Class: A modest Battleship with a good armament of submerged torpedo mounts and 11.5 inch guns. The bridge isn't very armored unlike the rest of the ship, but that is fine, provided the tower isn't hit by any proper battleship shells. Though more cautious captains and officers can lead from rooms inside the ship rather than in the tower. Costs 7/2, 6 season construction time.

Spoiler: Ship Class Cards (click to show/hide)

Zeerover Class

Compromise Class

A1-Klasse

Resoluut Class

Spoiler: Unassigned captains (click to show/hide)

Array

Spoiler: Ships (click to show/hide)

TBD - Torpedo Boat Destroyer
A-1 Klasse, 4 ships, 12 Maintenance.
A-1 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-2 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-3 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost
A-4 | TBD | TTS | Currently Under construction, 2 seasons remaining, 3 PP per turn construction cost

SK - Speciale Kruiser
Zeerover Class, 10 ships, 29 Maintenance
Zeerover | SK | No Refit | Currently unassigned  | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | David Streithorst is captain, Trained, Balanced
Pirat | SK | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Undamaged  | Pieter-Jan Geurtse is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Avonturier | SK | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged  | Thijn Seijnen is captain, Trained, Balanced
Geest | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group B | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Bartje Brugmans is captain, Trained, Balanced
Onderneming | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Working Up | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Sibren ten Bouwhuis is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Rancune | SK | No Refit | Currently assigned to Working Up | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Mathies ten Hermsel is captain, Trained, Balanced
Wraak | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost
Vrijheid | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost
Bevrijder | SK | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 1 season remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost

CDS - Costal Defense Ship
Compromise Class, 9 ships, 36 Maintenance
The Union | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Christiaan Mol is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Herman Van Veen | CDS | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group C | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Egbert Hazenkamp is captain, Trained, Cautious
Lourens van Vilet | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Marlijn de Wal is captain, Trained, Balanced
Eldert Schimmelpennink | CDS | No Refit | Currently assigned to Group D | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Lindert Knuif is captain, Trained, Cautious. Wounded 1 turn
Reinout van Diermen | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Piet Bisschop is captain, Trained, Balanced
Gustaaf ten Donkelaar | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Gustaaf Hietland is captain, Trained, Cautious
Hendrik-Jan Dangremond | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Kobus Zwakenberg, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Rogier van Beulingen | CDS | No Refit | Currently under repair | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Jurren Strobos is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced
CDS 9 | CDS | No Refit | Currently Under construction, 3 seasons remaining, 6 PP per turn construction cost

Spoiler: Land Instillation's, Schools, & Dock Size (click to show/hide)

Veenland National School of the Navy (Costs 15 PP to maintain)
One 6 inch battery at Buskruithof, Sparrendijkje, Berenberg, Diepput, Bloemenheide, Marvinsburg, Baggerrots, Nijzande

10,000 Displacement Dry docks. (3 more seasons upgrading)
104 PP, 77 Maintenance.

[Iris]

I wrote a ship design to act as a speedbump for Magna's cruisers, as well as something with enough speed, armour, and range to act as a cruiser in its own right. Criticism is appreciated. I honestly believe something must be done about their cruiser advantage, or we will be strangled.

The so-called “Hybrid Kruiser'' - named due to it resembling two proposed designs put together, as well as it combining features of armoured and protected cruisers - is a proposed replacement for the Zeerover-Klasse of Speciale Kruiser, as well as as a counter to Magna’s cruiser supremacy. It is larger and faster than the Zeerover, coming in at a normal displacement of 8,000 tons at a length of 550 feet at the waterline, a beam of 65 feet, and a relatively shallow draught of 15ft. The ship has a flush deck.

   The Hybrid Kruiser mounts six 8” guns in three double turret-on-barbette mounts, all on the ends, with one superfiring forward in a so-called A-Bs-Y configuration. The secondary armament consists of twelve 4” guns in double deck and hoist mounts amidships, three to a broadside with the middle turrets superfiring, and the tertiary battery is sixteen single 2” guns in pedestal mounts placed wherever there is room on the deck, superstructure, turrets, and even inside the superstructure behind drop-down panels. Torpedo armament consists of four single above-water swivel launchers, two to a broadside, each with six reloads. Ample space on deck has been left for mounting Stoommachines or proposed Spiemortiers.

   The Hybrid Kruiser mounts its belt armour in an armoured cruiser-style layout, rather than a normal-for-its-displacement protected cruiser design. The main belt armour is 6”, and extends upwards of 9 feet, covering 65% of the ship's length - from A to Y barbettes; with 4” on the primary and secondary turrets and their barbettes; 1” of deck armour at the core of the ship in a turtleback-layout; and 1” of splinter protection elsewhere - including all of the tertiary battery guns. The conning tower receives 9” of armour. MF armour is used throughout.

   The Hybrid Kruiser uses geared steam turbines with mechanical stokers and mixed-firing boilers to achieve a speed of 25.5 knots at flank. Enough coal is carried to give a range of 8,000 nautical miles at a speed of 12 knots. Four shafts with multi-stage turbines make up the propulsion system.

   The design has three sets of fire control computers, which can either be rigged to each control a primary turret or one controls the primary battery, one controls the secondary battery, and one is a spare that can control either the primary or secondary battery if one computer is knocked out.
   
   Opinions differ on how to classify the Hybrid Kruiser. “Small armoured cruiser”, “cruiser”, and “armoured cruiser” were bandied about, before “snelle pantserkruiser”, or "fast armoured cruiser" (hull symbol: CA), was nominated because it represents a new generation of armoured cruiser.

Edit 1: Made some edits on the belt armour to clarify the layout and reduced the conning tower armour by an inch to reflect modification of the design.
Edit 2: Corrected the turrets: they're supposed to be doubles, not triples.
Edit 3: Made some more general changes.
Edit 4: Clarified the ship has a flush deck.
Edit 5: Corrected "belt armour" to say "deck armour".
Edit 6: Added some more on the fire control computers.

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Projects 3 dice

Spoiler: Unterwasser Anti-Schiffsminen Projekt (click to show/hide)

    In keeping with our fighting style of guerilla tactics, one logical step is to manufacture a terrain that functions to either deny an area to the enemy or as a precursor to an ambush. One of these ways is with traps. One of the most destructive and fear inducing traps is the landmine. But we can only do so much with landmines. It has been done before to lay mines in water, but they have been rudimentary. But, the Worker’s Union can do better!
    Using newer manufacturing techniques, we can manufacture a hollow chamber of metal that can contain an explosive charge underwater for long periods of time. If we also make a chamber to fit into the device, we can place a diaphragm, open to the sea on one side and connected to a detonator on the other side. The detonator is composed of two parts. One is the detonating coil, constructed of tungsten wire with an opening in the circuit hooked to a powerful battery. The other is a piece of conductive metal that is to be wedged into the detonation coil. The detonating coil is capped in an explosive booster and subsequently surrounded by tightly packed TNT.
    Alternatively, we can use sulfuric acid in glass phials contained within soft metallic pretrubances that, when hit, shatter and spill the sulfuric acid into a hitherto unpowered lead acid battery to generate the voltage to detonate the explosives.
    For the depth control, the mine should be made buoyant enough to maintain a depth of about 1-5 fathoms. To maintain stationary, the mines are to be equipped with an anchor. This anchor will have a plummet attached. The plummet is attached by a wire to a valve. When the valve is opened, the anchor will fill with water and separate from the mine and sink, dragging the mine with it. The anchor shall be attached with a wire or chain that is long enough to touch the bottom, but short enough to not allow the mine to drift far in the ocean currents.

Spoiler: Torpedoboot van de Havenwacht (click to show/hide)

This is a very light torpedo boat, designed primarily to operate from ports to defend ports. Two variants of the vessel have been designed, with the primary version being armed with a 2” gun on the forward deck, two torpedo tubes fixed to the hull and pointing some 18° off of centerline, and a stoommachine on the aft transom. The other version is designed for more utility work, being armed with a pair of stoommachines(mounted one on either side of the vessel's cockpit in “pulpits”) and having the capability of carrying three of the mines as proposed by the Unterwasser Anti-Schiffsminen Projekt on the vessel’s aft deck(or some cargo, a number of troops, or other such items). There is no form of armor on any of these vessels. Propulsion is via four engines of the "hot bulb" type, each directly linked to a propeller shaft, with a design speed of 30 knots. In part to achieve this speed, the range of these vessels is limited to about four hours of operation and the boat is extremely lightly built, being mostly constructed out of sheets of laminated timber. However, it should be noted that these vessels do possess a double bottom, albeit as a side effect of fuel bunkerage more than anything.
Boats of this type are not named, being simply numbered. Mass of each craft is projected to be in the 23-35 ton range.

Spoiler: Doornhaai Mk4 Torpedo (click to show/hide)

The Doornhaai Mk4 Torpedo builds on the work we have made with the Zeeslang. With a diameter of 18” and a length of 17’, the Doornhaai is designed to be reverse compatible with the launchers currently equipped in our ships. The Mk4 is designed two have two speed settings: a range-focused setting with a speed of 35knts for a range of 6000 yards and a high-speed setting providing 45knts for a range of 3500 yards. Like the Zeeslang the Doornhaai has a design weight of around 1200 lbs but has a larger warhead weighing in at 300lbs. Like the Mk3 torpedo, propulsion is via a set of  contra-rotating propellers powered by a “wetheater” turbine. One new feature in this weapon is the ability to set the torpedo to significantly change its heading once launched, a useful feature when launching from fixed torpedo tubes such as exist on our capital ships or proposed Duikboots.
Part of the design work on this torpedo is also to continue designing a series of reliable torpedo mounts, focusing on two-tube arrangements.

Spoiler: Improved boilers (click to show/hide)

A common problem many proposed ship designs encounter is that there is always never enough mass to get everything we want within a given displacement. The “Improved boilers” project looks to help relive some of the weight constraint be developing oil firing boilers doing away with the bulky and heavy coal. In addition to oil firing work will also look into making the boilers more efficient than previous design to further increase the endurance of our ships without having to increase the fuel bunkers saving some more weight.

Ship designs 4 dice

Hybrid Kruiser

[Iris]

Here's one proposed plan, plus a revision/joint project. I'm just throwing things out there right now to let people explore our options - we need to choose our path carefully.

Spiemortier (and "Kogelvis", “Zwakenberg”, and “Octopus” mountings)

It has become increasingly apparent that the Worker's Army would be benefited by a light, infantry-portable artillery piece. Not to be outdone, the Navy has drawn up a proposal for a joint project to arm the army, marines, and even some boats.
The proposed weapon is the "spiemortier", or spigot mortar. It consists of little more than a tube, a firing piece running up the tube, and a removable baseplate and stand. There are two versions, one with a tube of roughly 50mm in diameter primarily for mobile applications and marine use (not to mention the army, allowing us to bill this as a joint project) and one with a spigot tube of roughly 75mm; primarily intended for static applications. A trigger can be connected to the firing pin, and they can be ganged together, allowing multiple mortars to fire at once (mostly used for the naval Kogelvis mount and the 8-tube “Octopus” mount available for infantry and marines). They are lighter and cheaper than a conventional mortar of the same capabilities. Depending on the angle, the 75mm Spiemortier can fire out to roughly a kilometre.
 The ammunition consists of a shell with a hollow in it, allowing it to fit over the spigot of the mortar. The shell usually (but not always, especially in shells meant for Kogelvis mounts) has a plug that fits over the spigot, trapping the exhaust gasses and suppressing the report of the mortar’s firing to nearly silent levels. In this instance, the mortar remains all but silent by "catching" the plug before it can escape with the shell. Because the shells do not need to fit inside the tube, a variety of ammunition sizes can be used, giving soldiers in the field a wealth of choices. Some ammunition types in use with the Spiemortier include High Explosive, Parachute flares, and smoke, and while the infantry version in 50mm is constrained to 50mm shells (although the tube fitting over the spigot can be removed to fire larger shells with a loss of silence), the projectiles reach sizes of up to 200mm for the Kogelvis and Octopus mounts.
In the naval "Kogelvis" mounting, up to twenty-five 75mm Spiemortiers have been ganged together to fire at once; and they have been arrayed in such a manner so as to fire in a diamond pattern, saturating the area they are fired in. This allows for fast-moving targets (or with the right fuzes, underwater targets) to be effectively targeted.
A “Zwakenberg” pedestal mount is available for naval use; consisting of three of the infantry version mounted together along with a Stoommachine physically attached to the mount.

This plan continues to push our army's advantage and challenges their cruiser supremacy. Also, autocannon, for arming smaller boats (and because we had a die leftover).

Design Phase:
Hybrid Kruiser
Revision Phase:
Spiemortier
Stoommachinekannon

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