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[IcyTea31]

Oh damn. I wasn't expecting a votecount so soon. Yeah, I don't have a vote; I was trying to see if scum would try to hammer Caz, but that's inconclusive since nobody else posted since my vote.

However, it would seem that Caz lied about not having a vote. And also about reviving me, since I was revived by NQT's hologram ability.

[Secretdorf]

Caz, why did you fakeclaim reviving ICT?

And I am thinking KZ has a vote or why will he have been invited. Its got so difficult to figure the real mafia. Icytea, you were mafia or it was tricmagic, you know the thing with true paladin and false paladin.

[IcyTea31]

And I am thinking KZ has a vote or why will he have been invited. Its got so difficult to figure the real mafia. Icytea, you were mafia or it was tricmagic, you know the thing with true paladin and false paladin.

I see. So one labyrinth guard said that Tric was town, and the other said I was mafia? The answer to that would have been that we're the same alignment, not one town and one mafia.

What was the ability actually supposed to do?

This is the second time in a row in which someone has called the mod a bastard over a roleflip which should prove me town without a doubt.

[Toaster]

I'm confused.

Tomasque: 
Are false roleflips possible?
Are false messages possible?
Are revives guaranteed to result in same alignment?
If a person actually joined the game, what do we know about their alignment?
Are people with revives and/or game invites knowledgable about their target's alignment?
Is IcyTea actually back to life?

[Caz]

Wtf is even going on in this game anymore

[Caz]

If I actually was blocked then disregard everything I said in last pages bc it no longer works out. But I'm pretty busy so there is no way I am unravelling this just now.

[FallacyofUrist]

Okay, I'm pretty sure that Caz is a blatant liar, since IcyTea is a hologram.

Let's fall back to the old standby of 'lynch people who lie'.

Caz.

[Tomasque]

Tomasque: 
Are false roleflips possible?
Are false messages possible?
Are revives guaranteed to result in same alignment?
If a person actually joined the game, what do we know about their alignment?
Are people with revives and/or game invites knowledgable about their target's alignment?
Is IcyTea actually back to life?

I don't know how to answer this except to say: Anything is possible, but I chose to include what I thought would be balanced (though my options were limited).

Votecount

Caz (2) - Secretdorf, IcyTea31, FallacyofUrist
Secretdorf (1) - Caz

Not Voting: Toaster, King Zultan

[Toaster]

IcyTea:  Are you a hologram?

[IcyTea31]

IcyTea:  Are you a hologram?

Yes. I wasn't actually day-revived, I just decided to delay my speaking up until the first votecount (and thus action resolution) to make that plausible. Therefore, Caz lied in trying to take credit for my revival:

Because why would I revive you if I was mafia lmao

Ok I realise I didn't explain my ability well, I revive someone and also give someone my vote (which is why I don't think roleflips can be inaccurate, imagine giving your vote to a maf and reviving a maf too? WHAT) Toaster has my vote, so they can't be maf, otherwise maf has 3/5 of the votes. (majority)

Incidentally, do you have two votes, Toaster? Caz still has a vote as can be seen from the votecount, so that's at least partially a lie.

[Caz]

I didn't lie about anything, it's just a confusing set of circumstances. This game seems broken to me, so do what you want. Mafia has pretty much already won given that town can only control the lynch with a player that apparently isn't participating (King Zultan), and convincing you guys of anything is like talking to a wall anyway. :L

[IcyTea31]

I see, you're claiming that your action was blocked. Well, I happen to know how that block works, from what I saw on D1. So let's put that to the test.

Everyone: Were you blocked last Night?

Toaster: Could you place your vote or votes? On me if you have no other preference. I want to see if your vote is effective.

[Caz]

Btw, what's the argument for Secretdorf being town given that their lying has already led to the death of two townies?

[Caz]

Given that Toaster's not hammered yet I guess that clears them FMPOV. Still useless without King Zultan tho.

[IcyTea31]

Btw, what's the argument for Secretdorf being town given that their lying has already led to the death of two townies?

Not much, beyond stronger evidence against others.

Though it is a little hypocritical of you to call them a liar and yourself confused for your similar situations.

Given that Toaster's not hammered yet I guess that clears them FMPOV. Still useless without King Zultan tho.

I agree that Toaster probably isn't scum unless you also are...if he has an effective vote, which I'm asking him to prove above.