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Author Topic: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive  (Read 11029 times)

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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #210 on: March 07, 2021, 02:06:31 pm »

Revision Phase 5 - Alpha

Pup Slime Mane
[Efficacy: 5 (4)]
The altered secretions of the Murder-Pup provide notably increased survivability against blunt impacts, distributing impact energy and leveraging the strength of the hairs along with the modified slime chemistry to instantly transform the slimy fur into a thick rubbery mat. Piercing strikes, however, are less impeded - with sharper and slimmer and slimmer weapons still able to slide through without greatly activating the novel slime.


Stomatofins
[Efficacy: 5 (5)]
While resulting in an almost frilled appearance on land, and a serrated appearance during level flight, the addition of multiple additional maneuvering surfaces to the body allows for considerably finer control when on final approach. Owing to them being primarily in line with one another during level flight, the fins provide a considerably smaller bonus to maneuvering when the Stomatoshrike is not curled under to execute a direct ‘sting’ attack.



It is now the Birthing and Deployment Phase
You have the following organisms available to be deployed,

|              | |              | |              | |              | |              | |              | |              |1600 Grub
0 Grub+
|              | |              | |              | |              | |              | |              | |              |
|              | 663 Driller
286 Driller+
|              | |              | |              |442 Ember
238 Ember+
|              | |              | |              |663  PteroHawk
250 PteroHawk+ 
|              | |              | |              |442 Murder-Pup
238 Murder-Pup+
|              |
54 Cultivator
 17 Cultivator+
|              | |              | |              | |              | |              | |              | |              |81 Stomato-Shrike
26 Stomato-Shrike+
|              | |              | |              | |              | |              | |              |

You can currently deploy to,
 The Bog: 0/4
 The Lava Rivers: 0/4
 The Glowing Crater: 0/4 vs 1/4

This is the LAST chance for contest entries.

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« Last Edit: March 07, 2021, 02:30:31 pm by Draignean »
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #211 on: March 07, 2021, 08:47:10 pm »

Okay. Plan A go:
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BOG
463 Pterohawk
130 Pterohawk+
60 StomatoShrike
10 StomatoShrike+
400 Grub
103 Driller
86 Driller+
42 Murder Pup

LAVA RIVERS
200 Pterohawk
21 StomatoShrike
16 StomatoShrike+
400 Ember
200 Ember+
800 Grub
100 Murder Pup
260 Driller
100 Driller+

GLOWING CRATER
100 Driller
200 Grub
300 Murder Pup
238 Murder Pup+
42 Ember
38 Ember+
54 Cultivator
17 Cultivator+
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #212 on: March 09, 2021, 04:56:00 am »

We were having a chat on discord Dragofire (I recommend you join, would be good to get your thoughts on stuff), and I believe the consensus was something like this:
Quote from: Plan: Only half paying attention
# Bog
533 Grub
100 Driller
50 Driller
21 Ember
18 Ember+
221 Pterohawk
84 Pterohawk+
200 Murder-Pup
100 Murder-Pup+
27 Cultivator
9 Cultivator+
27 Stomato-Shrike
8 Stomato-Shrike+

# Lava Rivers
533 Grub
63 Driller
36 Driller
400 Ember
200 Ember+
221 Pterohawk
83 Pterohawk+
42 Murder-Pup
38 Murder-Pup+
27 Cultivator
9 Cultivator+
27 Stomato-Shrike
8 Stomato-Shrike+

# Glowing Crater
534 Grub
500 Driller
200 Driller
21 Ember
18 Ember+
221 Pterohawk
83 Pterohawk+
200 Murder-Pup
100 Murder-Pup+
27 Cultivator
9 Cultivator+
27 Stomato-Shrike
9 Stomato-Shrike+


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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #213 on: March 09, 2021, 07:26:37 am »

Didn't grubs fare quite poorly in the seabed? The lava rivers would be even worse for them.

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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #214 on: March 09, 2021, 08:10:45 am »

They suffered a lot from the sand drying out their slime iirc. Should be less of an issue here,  although it will be hotter. Perhaps this region has places that aren't perpetually, oppressively hot though, so they have a chance to recuperate.

We could probably send more over to the Bog to even out the numbers, although I don't expect the Grub to do much in combat other than bite bullets in exchange of higher tiers.
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #215 on: March 09, 2021, 09:20:51 am »

They suffered from the sand and dust getting stuck in the slime and suffocating them.
On the plan itself, I'd recommend  sending a couple Shrike+s from the bog to somewhere else, since they probably won't bounce so much as get buried.
Preferably they would be sent to the crater, since that's where the enemy will probably send the Giant Enemy Crabs they are meant to counter.
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #216 on: March 09, 2021, 10:56:28 am »

I would apportion fewer cultivators to the bog, since my suspicion is they’ll sink hard due to being fat fuckin things and die
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #217 on: March 09, 2021, 12:00:08 pm »

I put grubs in equal numbers in each zone because they are not very useful except as cannon fodder. No flyers in the Glowing Crater, they'd get zapped rapidly. Bog and Lava Rivers are better, since they can just fly over the hazards.
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #218 on: March 09, 2021, 12:11:25 pm »

eh, I believe the only reason the enemy fliers got zapped was because they were using highly energy intensive psionic flight, which also caused them problems against the automated defenses, there's no reason to believe our flyers will do quite as badly. Moreover, we should not send 0 of anything anywhere. This is uncharted territory, and we should send out at least a few to get data on how they do in that environment
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #219 on: March 09, 2021, 01:00:04 pm »

My parents won't let me look at Discord nevermind have an account. They're still on the edge about me being on Bay12 in the first place.

Nevermind that this is the only way I have of communicating with other people aside from my two classmates and my grandparents.
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We could just lie on all of our maps, or we could flood Europe.
The standard sense of Mario is that he won't murder someone but isn't good enough to not smash bugs. This is engraved into everyone’s mind.
There was one slight problem with the climb, and that was the spontaneous combustion.

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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #220 on: March 09, 2021, 05:34:01 pm »

Asking Draignean about ash in lava rivers, he said "The ash is thick in the cooler regions, but frequently blown by the winds.".

That doesn't exactly bode well for our lowly grubs, considering the problems with sand. not worth the food they will be eating in my opinion.

Regarding Shrike+, it probably won't be much use in the bog. On the other hand, it will be very handy in the crater, with its very hard ground.

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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #221 on: March 14, 2021, 02:10:30 pm »

Well, we have been silent for quite a while, and we shouldn't keep Draignean waiting. I dare say it is time to vote, but first I want to propose my own plan.

Lets try to sum things up:
- we want at least one of everything in each theater, for the sake of seeing what happens
-Ember is the only thing we have we know will fare well in the lava rivers, and we have good reasons to suspect it will do quite poorly in the other 2 (bog is sure, crater depends on how it works)
-Ground in bog is soft, ground is crater is very hard. That affects the utility of stomatoshrike+
-Lava rivers are hot and full of ash. My opinion here is that this will mess up with grubs. And everything else, but grubs start very low in terms of usefulness already.

So I propose a slight modification to kashyyk's plan, removing most grubs from lava rivers and moving some shrike+ from bog to crater.


Quote from: Plan: 3
# Bog
783 Grub
100 Driller
50 Driller
21 Ember
18 Ember+
221 Pterohawk
84 Pterohawk+
200 Murder-Pup
100 Murder-Pup+
27 Cultivator
9 Cultivator+
36 Stomato-Shrike
1 Stomato-Shrike+

# Lava Rivers
33 Grub
63 Driller
36 Driller
400 Ember
200 Ember+
221 Pterohawk
83 Pterohawk+
42 Murder-Pup
38 Murder-Pup+
27 Cultivator
9 Cultivator+
27 Stomato-Shrike
8 Stomato-Shrike+

# Glowing Crater
784 Grub
500 Driller
200 Driller
21 Ember
18 Ember+
221 Pterohawk
83 Pterohawk+
200 Murder-Pup
100 Murder-Pup+
27 Cultivator
9 Cultivator+
18 Stomato-Shrike
17 Stomato-Shrike+



Quote from:  box of votes
Plan A (0):
Plan Only half paying attentions (0):
Plan 3(1): Andrea


« Last Edit: March 14, 2021, 04:33:42 pm by andrea »
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #222 on: March 14, 2021, 02:41:39 pm »

Quote from:  box of votes
Plan A (0):
Plan Only half paying attentions (0):
Plan 3 (2): Andrea, NUKE9.13

Yes. My only concern with all three options is that I don't know what 'Plan' means, because this is a high school manga. But I'll suffer through voting for a 'plan', for the sake of expedience.
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #223 on: March 14, 2021, 02:57:55 pm »

Quote from: Keikaku 1
The same as Andrea's "plan"
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Re: Mutagenesis Team Thread | Alpha Hive
« Reply #224 on: March 14, 2021, 03:03:40 pm »

Personally I'd have shifted some cultivators out of the bog, but it shouldn't be a massive deal
Quote from:  box of votes
Plan A (0):
Plan Only half paying attentions (0):
Plan 3 (3): Andrea, NUKE9.13, Powder Miner
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