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0leg

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Dwarves and engravings (or other art)
« on: January 08, 2021, 09:40:28 am »
Hello, I have a question, do dwarves actually understand and  feel anything from engravings? I think they like engraved rooms, sure, but does the contents of the said engraving (or statue) give them feelings? Seeing an object they like, a dwarf they hate, an event that makes them sad, does it make them feel/remember something?
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Re: Dwarves and engravings (or other art)
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2021, 01:31:54 pm »
Quote from: https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Hateable
Dwarves who encounter detested vermin (or even an artistic rendering of one) may experience a negative thought. Being hated by some dwarves does not prevent the vermin from appearing as a positive preference for other dwarves. Be careful when selecting engravers - a fortress full of hated engravings can lead to civil unrest.

It at least does for preferences. Edit: The engravings page contradicts this, saying that dwarves don't admire engravings.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2021, 01:38:48 pm by Bumber »
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Re: Dwarves and engravings (or other art)
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2021, 03:23:32 pm »
While neither confirmation nor denial, I can offer this data point regarding engravings and 'admire art' needs..

If all dwarves in a fort have only the need to admire art, have no jobs, are otherwise idle, and are placed in a generic meeting place filled with masterwork floor engravings, their AdmireArt need goes unfulfilled for many consecutive months.
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Re: Dwarves and engravings (or other art)
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2021, 04:07:29 pm »
Quote from: Bumber on January 08, 2021, 01:31:54 pm
Quote from: https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Hateable
Dwarves who encounter detested vermin (or even an artistic rendering of one) may experience a negative thought. Being hated by some dwarves does not prevent the vermin from appearing as a positive preference for other dwarves. Be careful when selecting engravers - a fortress full of hated engravings can lead to civil unrest.

It at least does for preferences. Edit: The engravings page contradicts this, saying that dwarves don't admire engravings.
hmm, well that sucks, but I'm pretty sure it's on Toady's long list of to-be implemented features.
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Re: Dwarves and engravings (or other art)
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2021, 04:50:57 pm »
FWIW, I've never seen a comment by a dwarf that they've either admired or dis-un-non-admired (lol) an engraving.  And I have the game configured to show me ALL messages (as far as I know how to anyway).
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Re: Dwarves and engravings (or other art)
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2021, 07:54:38 am »
Yeah I know that, my question was does the contents of the said art change their reaction. But I didn't know they could un-admire art, that is interesting
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Re: Dwarves and engravings (or other art)
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2021, 10:46:18 am »
Pretty sure I've heard that the content is not yet coded to affect the dwarfs yet. Maybe in the future, but that's just what I heard so take it with a grain of salt, and "un-admire" was just a joke.
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