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Re: Armories of Valturia: Prykanbul Manufacturing Thread
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2020, 01:46:59 pm »

Wait, it wouldent get listed in our products spoiler until we submit it?
Up until now it hasn't come up, but I think this is reasonable. They'll know you worked on something since finances are public, but I'll keep it out of the public catalog until it's time to submit.
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Prykanbul Manufacturing Thread
« Reply #76 on: October 30, 2020, 01:54:23 pm »

Huh. Neat. Now I kinda wish we did a MG just to get it being worked on, if we could then hide it. Well, future exists, theoretically possibly next year.
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« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2020, 02:10:33 pm »

As much fun as sneakiness would be, let's get that second line running sooner rather than later...

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« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2020, 04:40:23 pm »


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(2) Offer SR/M-6-12 to Rangers at 50: ConscriptFive, Khang36
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« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2020, 05:41:28 pm »

Yall forgot my suggestion and the possibility of the survival rifle contract...
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« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2020, 06:15:08 pm »

sure why not if we win both of these contracts maybe we can offer the one of the other teams some credit to build a batch for the Forenian contract
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« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2020, 10:11:39 am »

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(3) "Who Wants A Rifle" proposal: AseaHeru,khang36, Madman
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Prykanbul Manufacturing Thread
« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2020, 11:18:36 am »

So, use profits from marksmen to get a new line for making those rifles, finish up the existing contract, queue up survival rifles...

I think we might also want one more revision to our base rifle, giving it detachable magazines in 5 or 10 round sizes and upgrading the sights. hopefully the changes can go on the marksman too.
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« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2020, 11:11:12 pm »

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Accept the Ranger contract and start a second line(1): Khang36
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« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2020, 11:14:00 pm »

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Accept the Ranger contract and start a second production line producing marksmen's rifle variants; keep producing rifles for the Ira 1st Army contract on Line 1

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« Reply #85 on: November 03, 2020, 08:28:36 am »

..might as well not hold up the game...

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« Reply #86 on: November 03, 2020, 12:01:22 pm »

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Re: Armories of Valturia: Prykanbul Manufacturing Thread
« Reply #87 on: November 03, 2020, 03:30:09 pm »

It is now 1913. You have 16 credits to spend, meaning you can only afford a revision of your Short Rifle. You have two assembly lines ready to go with no contracts, so you might consider plans to secure two contracts this turn if you can. The survival rifle contract is probably in the bag unless Fabrique Riviere decides to stop manufacturing machine guns just to compete, so you might think about how to win the bicycle infantry contract, which Behrens might compete on. Alternatively, you could stretch a revision and try to make an automatic rifle without making an entirely new design, though this is unlikely to be competitive against a purpose-made gun.
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Prykanbul Manufacturing Thread
« Reply #88 on: November 03, 2020, 03:47:41 pm »

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No Revision, right to contracts. | (1) AseaHeru
One Revision | (0)

SR/F-6-13 | (0)
SR-6-13 "Final Form" | (1) AseaHeru


Spoiler: Prykanbul SR/F-6-13 (click to show/hide)

I dont think we need to do a revision particularly, but if we do, I want one that gets us ahead in general, not just "hurr, we added a hinge and two latches"
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Prykanbul Manufacturing Thread
« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2020, 04:01:26 pm »

So it's a shame to not use a free action.  Developing a cartridge in advance will save us the double-action penalty from trying to squeeze it in to the same round as the weapon design.

We need other calibers if we're going to do something other than service rifles.  Although handguns/pistols have had terrible margins so far, it would be nice to have something 9mm or .45 ACP-like to build SMG's around.  Similarly, our 6mm rifle round is great for lighter systems, but we could really use something larger for those heavy crew served weapons and future AMR's...

Cartridge: 12mm Prykanbul Machine Gun (12mm PMG)
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Featuring over three times the muzzle energy of most rifle rounds, 12mm PMG pushes the limits of what Prykanbul steel weapons can harness.  Such a large projectile inherently possesses a superior ballistic coefficient, making nearly any 12mm PMG platform capable of reliably engaging targets at ranges of 1km and beyond.  Additionally, the raw kinetic energy easily penetrates many forms of practical cover, and for civilian applications, can kill large game such as polar bears, moose, tigers, and elephants in a single round.
Technically specified, an aerodynamic Spitzer-type 12mm 40 gram FMJ lead projectile sits atop a 100mm length rimless brass cartridge with a center-fire primer.  Incendiary magnesium "tracer" versions of 12mm PMG projectile can be included upon request, colored in either orange-red or bright-green.
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