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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #105 on: November 18, 2020, 11:32:27 am »

Quote from: Scalpel Autocarbine
The Scalpel autocarbine is an automatic pistol-calibre carbine. It has a simple blowback, open bolt mechanism with a high rate of fire. For safety it has a selector switch with safe, semi, and full auto settings as well as a safety notch for the charging handle. It has a 235mm barrel.

The weapon's 34 round double stack, double feed magazine sits to the left of the barrel, tilted upward at a 45 degree angle. This can be easily fired and reloaded from a prone position, and gravity helps the magazine feed even more reliably.

The weapon features a pistol grip and a foregrip carved from one single piece of wood. It has a folding stock which folds under the gun, and can be fired with the stock extended or folded. A small hook near the front of the barrel can be used to hook onto walls, firing ports, or similar things to help control recoil.

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"Talon" Submachine gun: (1) Taricus
"Comet" Submachine gun: (2) Vostok, m1895
"Scalpel" Autocarbine: (1) NAV
« Last Edit: November 18, 2020, 11:37:12 am by NAV »
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #106 on: November 18, 2020, 06:09:15 pm »

A vote to CHANGE HISTORY!
EDIT: Changed vote

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"Talon" Submachine gun: (1) Taricus
"Comet" Light Automatic Carbine: (3) Vostok, m1895, Nemonole
"Scalpel" Autocarbine: (1) NAV
« Last Edit: November 18, 2020, 06:25:20 pm by Jilladilla »
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #107 on: November 18, 2020, 06:31:22 pm »

For what it's worth.

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"Comet" Light Automatic Carbine: (3) Vostok, m1895, Nemonole
"Scalpel" Autocarbine: (0)
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #108 on: November 19, 2020, 03:41:08 am »

The Comet is a simple blowback, open-bolt submachine gun designed from the ground up to be reliable and controllable in full auto. Unlike the Mod 2 Valturia, this weapon adopts a form factor much closer to that of a rifle for ease of handling, with a conventional buttstock and 32-round double-stack/double-feed box magazine that feeds from the bottom of the weapon. Charging handle is on the right side with a notch at the rear for use as a bolt hold-open and safety.

The weapon has an 24cm barrel screwed into a barrel shroud, and a two-point sling attachment system. Provisions are made for the optional addition of a bayonet lug for the weirdos who want one on a submachine gun and radium sights for use at nighttime, should the purchaser request them. A particular emphasis is placed on the magazine assembly, with interchangeability of the magazines and reliable feeding being top priority for the design team.

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Your first proper submachinegun is sensibly a simple blowback, open bolt design, probably the simplest way of designing the weapon. Unfortunately, your engineers spent a bunch of time playing around with radium paint for the prototype sights, and then some of them got sick for a while and couldn't work too. This meant that most of the gun didn't get enough iteration and testing, particularly the new double-stack magazine. Radium sights were canceled after this incident.

Comet Submachine Gun: This is a simple blowback, open-bolt automatic weapon, chambered in 8mm Behrens. It's about the size of a carbine with a rifle stock, and the receiver is a lathed cylindrical piece which contains all of the working parts. There is a long spring housing behind the receiver, and a 32-round double stack magazine sits below. The barrel is 24cm, a small portion of the gun's overall length, and it sits in a shroud of sheet metal with drilled holes. It fires from an open bolt, so the trigger simply holds the bolt open when not depressed. When the bolt slams closed, it chambers a round and fires, and there is a charging handle on the bolt. A safety notch can hold the bolt in the open position. It's not compatible with existing Behrens magazines, and feed through the magazine is poor. It jams relatively often. Simple feed jams are not hard to clear, but occasionally a cartridge becomes disoriented inside the magazine which could take minutes to fix. There are occasional issues with burst brass which becomes stuck partially in the chamber as well, the firing pin may be prematurely igniting rounds. Furniture includes simple notch sights, a wooden shoulder stock with a rear pistol grip and flat foregrip under the receiver, and a detachable bayonet which screws into place. Costs 37 credits per batch.
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #109 on: November 19, 2020, 06:45:04 am »

Spoiler: 1913 Contracts (click to show/hide)

We also have exactly 0 credits, so hopefully we can get a loan to revise the Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol, so we can ensure it is competitive.
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #110 on: November 19, 2020, 01:33:41 pm »

Loan Offer: His majesty is displeased to see that your efforts have not been profitable so far, but if it is necessary to get your company on its feet, he is willing to offer 20 credits, the amount needed for a revision. This will cost 10 prestige.
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #111 on: November 19, 2020, 11:37:09 pm »

Quote from: Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 0
The designers responsible for the radium paint incident were firmly reprimanded once they finished puking their guts out into the office toilet and put back to work getting the Comet up to scratch.

After the out of battery detonations and ruptured case heads were fixed, the vast majority of engineer time was put towards getting the magazine feed to be as crazy consistent as they could get away with short of redesigning the whole gun. The parts of the design team that weren't busy making the gun and magazine as stupidly reliable as possible were working with the in-house machinists to see how we could simplify the design and streamline production to make it cheaper and quicker to manufacture without compromising performance.
Quote from: Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 1
The designers responsible for the radium paint incident were firmly reprimanded once they finished puking their guts out into the office toilet and put back to work getting the Comet up to scratch.

After the out of battery detonations and ruptured case heads were fixed and the feed system was finagled up to “good enough,” everybody in the design team and machining staff was tasked with finding every possible way of making the gun cheaper and simpler to manufacture within reason, from introducing stamped parts where possible to cutting the number of machining steps needed for the bolt.
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #112 on: November 21, 2020, 12:18:52 am »

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Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 0 (0):
Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 1 (1): Taricus
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #113 on: November 21, 2020, 07:53:58 am »

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Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 0 (0):
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #114 on: November 21, 2020, 08:41:14 am »

Just to be explicit, I've added a vote on the loan as well. I assume you two are saying yes to that.

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Take the loan?
Yes (3): Taricus, NAV, Kashyyk
No (0):

Revision?
Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 0 (0):
Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 1 (3): Taricus, NAV, Kaahyyk
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #115 on: November 21, 2020, 05:51:21 pm »

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Take the loan?
Yes (4): Taricus, NAV, Kashyyk, Vostok
No (0):

Revision?
Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 0 (0):
Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 1 (4): Taricus, NAV, Kaahyyk, Vostok
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #116 on: November 23, 2020, 05:11:11 pm »

Quote from: Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 1
The designers responsible for the radium paint incident were firmly reprimanded once they finished puking their guts out into the office toilet and put back to work getting the Comet up to scratch.

After the out of battery detonations and ruptured case heads were fixed and the feed system was finagled up to “good enough,” everybody in the design team and machining staff was tasked with finding every possible way of making the gun cheaper and simpler to manufacture within reason, from introducing stamped parts where possible to cutting the number of machining steps needed for the bolt.

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Stopping the premature detonations requires a partial redesign of the hammer and bolt. Some alteration in the geometry of the receiver improves the feeding, it's still prone to occasional misfeeds but it usually fires for a while and jams are easy to clear. This doesn't leave a lot of time for cheapening the weapon, but some minor tooling alterations are made. Weird magazine jams still happen, but seemingly less often in proportion with the more common feed jams.

Comet Heavy Automatic Pistol Mk. II Mod 1: This is a simple blowback, open-bolt automatic weapon, chambered in 8mm Behrens. It's about the size of a carbine with a rifle stock, and the receiver is a lathed cylindrical piece which contains all of the working parts. There is a long spring housing behind the receiver, and a 32-round double stack magazine sits below. The barrel is 24cm, a small portion of the gun's overall length, and it sits in a shroud of sheet metal with drilled holes. It fires from an open bolt, so the trigger simply holds the bolt open when not depressed. When the bolt slams closed, it chambers a round and fires, and there is a charging handle on the bolt. A safety notch can hold the bolt in the open position. It's not compatible with existing Behrens magazines. Like most automatic weapons it suffers occasional feed jams. Simple feed jams are not hard to clear, but rarely a cartridge becomes disoriented inside the magazine which could take minutes to fix (or a fresh magazine). Furniture includes simple notch sights, a wooden shoulder stock with a rear pistol grip and flat foregrip under the receiver, and a detachable bayonet which screws into place. Costs 35 credits per batch.
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #117 on: November 24, 2020, 03:12:19 pm »

Vote on contracts or get deported
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #118 on: November 24, 2020, 04:49:48 pm »

Quote from: Please dont deport me
Bank Guards:
Comet HAP: (1) NAV

Portable automatic weapon:
Comet: (1) NAV

Assassinate the FR:
Original small Valturia pistol: (1) NAV
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Re: Armories of Valturia: Behrens Thread
« Reply #119 on: November 24, 2020, 05:22:26 pm »

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Bank Guards:
Comet HAP: (2) NAV, Vostok

Portable automatic weapon:
Comet HAP: (2) NAV, Vostok

Assassinate the FR:
Original small Valturia pistol: (1) NAV
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