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Raven

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children:babies ratio from LNP
« on: October 13, 2020, 05:17:56 am »

I put 30:20 and got flooded with infants

am I doing it wrong? or just unlucky?

Second wave of migrants: 7 childrens on a total of 11 dorfs
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Re: children:babies ratio from LNP
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2020, 05:23:34 am »

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This allows you to control the number of babies+children in your fortress.  The first number is an absolute cap on the number of babies+children.  The second is a percentage of the current number of adults in your fortress (the default is the essentially meaningless 1000% here).  The lower number is used as the cap.  The cap only prevents further pregnancies, so migrant children, multiple births and existing pregnancies from old saves can still push you over the cap.  Setting either number to zero will disallow pregnancies in the fortress.

That's what is being changed here - so you've just gotten unlucky. There's no real way to prevent migrants from bringing kids, as far as I know. That said, it's been pretty rare for me to see more than 15% of a migrant wave be kids.

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Re: children:babies ratio from LNP
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2020, 11:48:22 am »

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This allows you to control the number of babies+children in your fortress.  The first number is an absolute cap on the number of babies+children.  The second is a percentage of the current number of adults in your fortress (the default is the essentially meaningless 1000% here).  The lower number is used as the cap.  The cap only prevents further pregnancies, so migrant children, multiple births and existing pregnancies from old saves can still push you over the cap.  Setting either number to zero will disallow pregnancies in the fortress.

That's what is being changed here - so you've just gotten unlucky. There's no real way to prevent migrants from bringing kids, as far as I know. That said, it's been pretty rare for me to see more than 15% of a migrant wave be kids.

sooo, i changed the ratio to 20:10, reloaded that save, waited for the wave and...

5 children on 9 dorfs

lol, guess i'll run a kindergarten
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Re: children:babies ratio from LNP
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2020, 12:03:25 pm »

It's also based on your current fortress population, not the incoming migration.  If you have nothing but adults currently, then you'll get more kids to get to the ratio.  What was your population prior to the migration wave?

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2020, 12:26:10 pm »

It's also based on your current fortress population, not the incoming migration.  If you have nothing but adults currently, then you'll get more kids to get to the ratio.  What was your population prior to the migration wave?
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i had the first scripted wave which consisted of: 6 adults and 3 children

i made a final test and i had a wave of: 7 adults and 4 children, which seems fair now

one final unrelated question: necrodorfs, ok, they can arrive but even in the scripted waves??

i'll have to keep them away from corpses...
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Re: children:babies ratio from LNP
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2020, 03:25:04 pm »

Necromancer migrants are probably a bug (vampire ones are intended, though). The first two migrant waves aren't as much hard coded as a fallback: with a healthy civ the normal set of migrants are chosen, presumably using the normal rules, so it's only when out of candidates that void ones are generated to pad those waves.
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Re: children:babies ratio from LNP
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2020, 02:26:16 am »

Necromancer migrants are probably a bug (vampire ones are intended, though). The first two migrant waves aren't as much hard coded as a fallback: with a healthy civ the normal set of migrants are chosen, presumably using the normal rules, so it's only when out of candidates that void ones are generated to pad those waves.
i'll use them to power a danger room lol

are they immortal and don't need food or alcohol, right? (I remember they get sad for lack of alcohol though)
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Re: children:babies ratio from LNP
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 08:49:56 am »

The setting is only used for determining if dwarves that are already in your fortress can get pregnant.
It does not affect migrant waves at all.
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Re: children:babies ratio from LNP
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 10:38:52 am »

The setting is only used for determining if dwarves that are already in your fortress can get pregnant.
It does not affect migrant waves at all.
ow fuck

well it was inevitable
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