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[Ihtomyt]

Is there any way to engage in combat with dwarves who are already killing each other in a fortress without getting labeled a murderer in adventure mode? I tried to only attack those who were attacking the Queen, but in the end I was only able to stop the fighting by declaring myself the lord of the site after she bled to death anyway. Now everyone has stopped fighting, but spits at me and calls me murderer, hero, and lord... very odd. Is it just inevitable if you engage in any combat with dwarven civs, even when they started it, that it will just end up this way, or is there a way?

[Leonidas]

Now everyone has stopped fighting, but spits at me and calls me murderer, hero, and lord... very odd.

Historically, that seems completely accurate.

[Ihtomyt]

Maybe if that's all the game mechanics can model, but how is it murder to defend the Queen of your civilization from people beating the hell out of her? Declaring lordship was a last-ditch thing after she was already dead and the fighting kept raging out of control. If that's how the game is, I guess in my next file I'll just have to let the dwarves murder each other then, but, oh, and I was also part of the fortress guard. So, if a fortress guard can't kill a peasant for attacking the queen without being labeled a murderer, I guess it's just a limitation of the game, but that does not reflect history by any real world standard.

[Leonidas]

Loyalty is a mess in DF. It has been for a long time.