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Spectacular raid fail, Poor raid planning
« on: June 07, 2020, 04:16:58 am »
In the newest version, it's the first time I've ever had a raid fail so spectacularly against so small a force. Even before reaching the destination, my two squads clad head to toe in steel clashed with forty-four grizzly bears in Wallvalleys. Only 6 dwarfs survived. The dwarfs were "poorly led" by the dwarf Meng Claspsense.

So, my question: is there a way to ensure they are led better? The wiki doesn't say much about the Leader skill. Does it depend on another skill?
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Re: Spectacular raid fail, Poor raid planning
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2020, 04:19:02 am »
I say that only 6 survived, but, more accurately, only 6 returned. I sent out a rescue party to recover the missing dwarfs, which is kind of annoying that I have to assign the mission and they have to return home between rescuing individual dwarfs. But anyway, I sent them on one rescue mission, they returned home empty-handed, and the mission report was utterly blank!
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Re: Spectacular raid fail, Poor raid planning
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2020, 04:24:43 am »
"Observer" is the skill that determines how well they prepare for battle. Presumably it's all about getting the lay of the land, attaining high ground, etc.


As for rescue missions, afaik they're still unimplemented and will always fail. Your dwarves are lost unless they return on their own.
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Re: Spectacular raid fail, Poor raid planning
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2020, 04:25:41 am »
Military tactics is the skill that matters most for this.

Missions will increase the skill of the dwarf in charge.
Sending many raids against easy targets help to gain skill fast.
Such bad luck is very rare. It probably will not happen again.
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Re: Spectacular raid fail, Poor raid planning
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2020, 04:28:07 am »
To fast-train observer skill in all Dwarves to legendary in just few months, create barracks location, as a smaller part of larger tavern location. Also put dinner location in tavern/barracks location, so hungry Dwarves visit tavern more often.
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Re: Spectacular raid fail, Poor raid planning
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2020, 12:37:05 am »
Quote from: Urist9876 on June 07, 2020, 04:25:41 am
Military tactics is the skill that matters most for this.

Missions will increase the skill of the dwarf in charge.
Sending many raids against easy targets help to gain skill fast.
Such bad luck is very rare. It probably will not happen again.
Raids increase ambusher skill by 500xp per mission for all dwarves on the mission.

Pillage missions and Raze missions raise the leader's tactician and leader skills by 500xp per mission. More specifically you get that xp when the battle report says that a dwarf "unrolled a brilliant tactical plan", or something similar. You can also get that xp if a raid mission goes badly and you have to fight.

To grind for xp in tactician and leader, pick an enemy village near your fort. Send a large pillage mission to wipe out all the site's historical figures. Then send individual squads on pillage missions. They'll kill ten percent of the population with each mission. Once you've exterminated the site, move on to another.
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