Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1] 2

Author Topic: dwarven child is starving from thirst  (Read 2536 times)

janamdo

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
dwarven child is starving from thirst
« on: March 15, 2020, 10:27:41 am »

How to save the life of this child it has a blue Arrow (status icon) on it
The message was starving i thought so, while it is thirsty ?

There are drinks enough, so i add new barrels at top priority then to let the dwarf child to able to drink. ?

Pay attention to the miasma ( diagonal entrance )  and body remains cleaning and emergency health messages in the fortress

« Last Edit: March 15, 2020, 10:34:20 am by janamdo »
Logged

PatrikLundell

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2020, 11:14:07 am »

Dorfs don't drink if:
- They're too injured, in particular, not being able to grasp can cause the morons to get a cup and fail to use it, while they're fine drinking directly from the barrel if they don't have access to cups (this is a bug, of course).
- They're in a burrow, and there is nothing to drink in the burrow.
- There is no path from where they are to any of the places where there's something to drink. This includes locked doors and ramps channeled away.
- They've failed a strange mood. This will cause them to go insane (different variants) and they won't eat or drink. If that's the case they will die: you can't save them.
- Other reasons...
Logged

janamdo

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2020, 03:16:21 pm »

Thanks
Dwarven child is  ( message from df hack at start and not a anouncement (a) in DF):
- starving
- dehydrated
The child is insane and running around babbling , so i can't help this child and then it must soon be  buried, otherwise it will shock other dwarfs when they see him dead laying on the floor.
The childeren sleep in a dormitory. 
Logged

Shonai_Dweller

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2020, 03:50:12 pm »

Thanks
Dwarven child is  ( message from df hack at start and not a anouncement (a) in DF):
- starving
- dehydrated
The child is insane and running around babbling , so i can't help this child and then it must soon be  buried, otherwise it will shock other dwarfs when they see him dead laying on the floor.
The childeren sleep in a dormitory.
If it's running around babbling, it can't be saved.
Did it fail a strange mood?

And yes, that will shock other dwarves. That's why you need to not fail strange moods.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2020, 03:51:57 pm by Shonai_Dweller »
Logged

janamdo

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2020, 05:47:46 pm »

Did it fail a strange mood?

And yes, that will shock other dwarves. That's why you need to not fail strange moods.
How to to know afterwards that the dwarven child could not make a legendary artifact ? ..let's find out
Logged

Shonai_Dweller

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2020, 10:07:43 pm »

Did it fail a strange mood?

And yes, that will shock other dwarves. That's why you need to not fail strange moods.
How to to know afterwards that the dwarven child could not make a legendary artifact ? ..let's find out
If it fails the strange mood, they will go mad. That's all there is to it. They either rush around trying to gather materials then begin crafting (safe).

Or they don't, they scream for what they want for a few months at the workshop, and if you ignore them they go mad, upset other dwarves and die.

If you get a message that a dwarf is in a strange mood (fey mod, other variations), pay attention to it!
Logged

Iduno

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2020, 09:24:42 am »

Did it fail a strange mood?

And yes, that will shock other dwarves. That's why you need to not fail strange moods.
How to to know afterwards that the dwarven child could not make a legendary artifact ? ..let's find out
If it fails the strange mood, they will go mad. That's all there is to it. They either rush around trying to gather materials then begin crafting (safe).

Or they don't, they scream for what they want for a few months at the workshop, and if you ignore them they go mad, upset other dwarves and die.

If you get a message that a dwarf is in a strange mood (fey mod, other variations), pay attention to it!

That's the nice thing about fell moods. They'll collect what they need without intervention.
Logged

Bumber

  • Bay Watcher
  • REMOVE KOBOLD
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2020, 03:11:06 pm »

That's the nice thing about fell moods. They'll collect what they need without intervention.
Best is when they collect a visitor and not one of your fort members.
Logged
Reading his name would trigger it. Thinking of him would trigger it. No other circumstances would trigger it- it was strictly related to the concept of Bill Clinton entering the conscious mind.

THE xTROLL FUR SOCKx RUSE WAS A........... DISTACTION        the carp HAVE the wagon

A wizard has turned you into a wagon. This was inevitable (Y/y)?

PatrikLundell

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2020, 03:35:44 pm »

I assume a fell mode still requires a workshop, though (I've never had one).
Logged

Bumber

  • Bay Watcher
  • REMOVE KOBOLD
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2020, 04:31:26 pm »

I assume a fell mode still requires a workshop, though (I've never had one).
Butcher's. Got a human bone scepter in my current fort.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 04:33:27 pm by Bumber »
Logged
Reading his name would trigger it. Thinking of him would trigger it. No other circumstances would trigger it- it was strictly related to the concept of Bill Clinton entering the conscious mind.

THE xTROLL FUR SOCKx RUSE WAS A........... DISTACTION        the carp HAVE the wagon

A wizard has turned you into a wagon. This was inevitable (Y/y)?

Dracko81

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2020, 12:46:15 am »

I don't mind fell moods as much as when a dwarf decides that it's a good idea to use the strand extraction workshop and make an amulet worth 1.2mil+ with 2 pieces of candy.
Logged

delphonso

  • Bay Watcher
  • menaces with spikes of pine
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2020, 05:28:03 am »

I assume a fell mode still requires a workshop, though (I've never had one).
Butcher's. Got a human bone scepter in my current fort.

Only butcher's? I tend to make one workshop of each somewhere in the fort specifically for this reason. I got a dwarf bone shield and a swarf bone spear in one fort. Unfortunately, that fort didn't last much longer (not surprising, considering things were bad enough for two fell moods.) But the last defender died with those artifacts in hand.

You can forbid materials you don't want a dwarf to use in the stocks screen (I think). Dwarves will find a similar substitute unless candy is one of their favorite materials. Then you have the choice - wafer or a mad dwarf.

Janamdo, I recommend hitting v-f to follow a dwarf whenever they get a mood. If they walk to a meeting place (tavern/temple), then you don't have the workshop they want. Otherwise, they'll claim one pretty quickly.

Dracko81

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2020, 12:29:10 am »

You can forbid materials you don't want a dwarf to use in the stocks screen (I think). Dwarves will find a similar substitute unless candy is one of their favorite materials. Then you have the choice - wafer or a mad dwarf.

Wasn't even pure candy, it was raw candy which just happened to be next to the Extraction Workshop.  If they used the refined type it probably would have been better value.
Logged

delphonso

  • Bay Watcher
  • menaces with spikes of pine
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2020, 05:38:09 am »

Ouch.

Larix

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: dwarven child is starving from thirst
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2020, 12:02:49 pm »

IIRC, fell moods can also use a tanner's workshop.

I only had fell moods in the versions where about half the fort's population would inevitably go into slow meltdown mode due to having relatives who didn't live in the fort. I'd prefer a grumpy dwarf going insane rather than murdering a denizen - remember, finished moods do just about nothing to improve a dwarf's state of mind, so they'll stay massively unhappy, flipping out regularly and tying up the exp. leader/mayor with inefficient meetings. Let them fail their mood, go mad and die - problem solved (and you'll keep whoever they wanted to turn into a hat) :P

Re: raw adamantine - normally, you can just forbid the addy claimed for the project. If the dwarf isn't done picking up stuff, they'll go and get something else as replacement(won't do you any good in a metal-based mood, since those lock hard on adamantine wafers if any exist in the fort at the time the mood triggers); if they already started work, the item just doesn't get included. If it was the base material for the mood, the game substitutes "iron", if you ended up forbidding all goods claimed for the artefact, the dwarf'll end up working on nothing and go mad after ~ 6 weeks. Raw addy is, i think, 5/6 the material value of the refined stuff, no big loss there.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2