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[Bralbaard]

I just wanted to let you know I am completely innocent of genocide. I only killed like 50 people tops.

No need to explain Eric, I was already convinced of your innocence because I read the flavour text under your avatar. 🙂

[Timeless Bob]

Human civs can be experiencing a loyalty cascade due to adventurers passing through. Many of the civs seemed to goblins mixed into their populations.

[Bralbaard]

Maybe waking up that massive bandit town triggered something?

[pikachu17]

Human civs can be experiencing a loyalty cascade due to adventurers passing through. Many of the civs seemed to goblins mixed into their populations.

Wouldn't have goblins had a noticable fatality rate in that scenario as well?
Would such a loyalty cascade last after the adventurer leaves and spread, because that seems to be too many humans dead just to be places the adventurers were at for a decent amount of time.

[Emilovich]

So, I decided to do a little research on this mysterious genocide, so I got LegendsViewer to produce one map showing human populations from my turn and one from the end of Eric's:

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It appears that huge numbers of human outcasts have suddenly disappeared from settlements in the Realm of Silver. One settlements was attacked by Goblins, but in the other cases, I can't find any clues as to what may have happened.

It seems that the Realm of Silver has had a rather sharp drop in crime rates - the number of outcasts in their lands have dropped from 30 000 to 5 000. They had 30 000 outcasts and only 13 000 law-abiding citizens!

[pikachu17]

If I remember correctly, refugees are also outcasts.

[Eric Blank]

Well shit, I really did kill them all, indirectly? I did explicitly kill most people I encountered who were obviously a bandit, but like I said, 50 or so in total. and the areas that show a marked decrease also happen to be the areas I travelled through, although one city seems unaffected. Could it be there is a bug where outcasts get wiped from settlements when an adventurer passes through?

We seem to be encountering a lot of weird bugs running this game, we should archive our saves and track changes so we can formulate experiments to pin down bugs

[Glloyd]

@Emil were none of them historical figures? You might be able to track down the cause in legends viewer if so. I'm inclined to believe this is a bug. An interesting one though, and I'm sure it's something we can weave into the history of the world. Is handwaving it as a plague too topical? Hahaha.

[Imic]

I still have the save game from my turn, I think, if it helps.

[Eric Blank]

A plague, or a wave of righteous patriotism caused by Donas' efforts to purify the land of ne'er-do-wells?

I think in terms of bug tracking, if it's repeatable, toady should be able to generate any world for this outcasts bug and adventure through a few sites, watch the population go down after retiring, maybe.

[Glloyd]

True, if we can establish that it is a bug, we should make a big report for it. I wonder if Th4dwArfY1 will come across any results of the mass die-off in their turn. I was already thinking of starting in the south, but now I definitely want to check it out.

[Timeless Bob]

It's not a bug, it's a feature... Although I suspect its not the case, weaving the Silver Plague into the story makes for some interesting role playing opportunities.  What are the effects of this plague?  Is it like an Evil Mist, or is this something else?  (Oh yes.)

[Bralbaard]

I still have the save game from my turn, I think, if it helps.

I have the save games for all turns, if needed.

Could it be that the outlaw populations are not properly saved when the site is unloaded after an adventurer visit?

[Glloyd]

That's why I wanted to see if any of the outlaws who died in that time were historical figures, because then it would at least tell us the cause of death so we could extrapolate. Or maybe it only affects outlaws who aren't historical figs.

[pikachu17]

We wanted a story about archeologists, and instead got one about archeologists spreading plague wherever they go. Seems legit.