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[Stench Guzman]

Tedros spills the beans

[King Zultan]

When did this turn into a conspiracy theory thread?

[Amaranth]

So you fight, flee of freeze?
Fighting begets violence and violence will be manipulated into political rehtoric for any cause until the media is held accountable to report without biases and are able to operate without targets on their backs.
This is seeded by fear and forms of mass consciousness control.
Then what? You're labeled a terrorist or something like this and incarcerated if not executed.
Flight is certain change and an uncontrolled factor it also won't stop what made you flee. The monster doesn't go away when you run. It remains to hurt others who fight or freeze.

Freezing isn't a good explanation for what actually happens though, because there isn't three alliterative explanations that are easily digested for anything and is one of the many social hypnopaedias that our languages subconscious enforce be it good and bad.

Beyond this the truth isn't to run or fight or commit eternal stasis and continue reincarnation into our machine.

It's to further yourself, never beyond yourself.

To understand the limit of yourself is also important.

To tell me to get a drug that I don't know what will do. None of the personel in my country that either got a 3 day crash course to innoculate or are registered nurses and doctors don't know the side effects or the ingredient list. Doctor that suggested verbally I get it while shaking his head saying No
We didn't have multiple choice here for our innoculation either and not getting many choices now instead we got the Pizza death jab and the ModeRna

You're actually being very ignorant and for sure would get shit thrown in my direction for suggesting you take a proper manly viking dose of fresh psilocybin mushrooms

It is the shittiest show in a while and everyone who "freezes" who becomes stasis. They who controls the unnatural human environment can pull the strings of the tethered puppets and the static remaining never wanting different. Borne of this artifikial world unable to leave or... Frozen in fear of the change they must make to run or fight?

It is almost a mark of your allegiance to society or at least it will be made to see like it but it is a symptom of being tethered to society. The inability to live in a 'real' world.
Very easy to see once you see how immature we are as a society not only in action but also idolized and pushed towards immaturity.

[ChairmanPoo]

You can look the ingredients in the prospect, or in the SPC. If you want further information you can look up the FDA and EMA reports.

Also I'm fairly sure that you made up that story about your doctor. But if it's true I'd look for another doctor.

And yeah suggesting that people take shrooms is both a bad idea, and an explanation for the wall of text from before.

[wierd]

I am very confused right now.

Psilocin has real therapeutic uses, but the research suggests efficacy in the sub-psychedelic, microgram range.  It should not be self-prescribed, and dosage should be consistent and monitored. Etc.

If you are experiencing negative mental states, such as paranoia or extreme aversion or fear of others, mushrooms probably arent going to be helpful; those are listed as possible negative side effects of that drug.

As for the vaccines, the one I took is mostly water, with some buffering salts, some sugar to stabilize the active ingredient, and then a short chain mRNA molecule solution.

Thats it.

The ingredient list is quite straight forward. If you think they lied about the ingredients, you would have to explain how the many dozens of independent watchdog groups that keep tabs on that stuff failed to notice.  With the heated arguments about the contents of the stuff, it is very improbable that anyone could sneak something in.

I am far more worried about the virus itself, and its myriad complications to those that contract it, than I am about the vaccines, even the more suspicious ones like sputnik or sinovac.

I really think you should be too.

[Amaranth]

Well no I'm not worried because the conspiracy is that we've all already had it but because testing my body for antibodies is illegal now I can't.
Yep it was like a super flu and sure if I was an old frail man and shit like that id be down for a bit or dead but I'm a healthy man I ate magic mushrooms, fejoas and smoke cannabis through it. Came out with a lung infection and my asthma re immerging due to fault of my own.
Sure you cite the studies now but ten years ago there was shit all data favoured by mainstream science and you'd not even give this god given mushroom a look sideways.
Go on @wierd pull out a sentence about research you didn't participate in about a drug you've never taken in post-psychedelic, gram range. It should be self prescription like all medicine and yes I agree dosage should be Consistently high and monitored then learned from. Etc

I am not experiencing negative mental states such as paranoia or extreme aversion or any fear of others.
That's a side effect of projects mockingbird and we've gone over this, I hope this clears the confusion. But I do hear that mental cloudyness is a side effect of the innoculation.

[ChairmanPoo]

Well no I'm not worried because the conspiracy is that we've all already had it but because testing my body for antibodies is illegal now I can't.

No we haven't. And no, it's not illegal. You can pay for it and get it done.  It's not meaningful either because detectable antibody titres fade after a few months, but that's another subject.

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Yep it was like a super flu and sure if I was an old frail man and shit like that id be down for a bit or dead but I'm a healthy man I ate magic mushroomPlenty of formerly healthy people ended up being not so healthy post covid. Plus, the "sick and the weak" also have a right to survive you know.

Go on @wierd pull out a sentence about research you didn't participate in about a drug you've never taken in post-psychedelic, gram range. It should be self prescription like all medicine and yes I agree dosage should be Consistently high and monitored then learned from. Etc

You've not participated in any research either. Wierd doesn't agree with you, either so I dont know why you say you "agree"

I am not experiencing negative mental states such as paranoia or extreme aversion or any fear of others.

Well that's... debatable

But I do hear that mental cloudyness is a side effect of the innoculation

No it"s not.

[martinuzz]

Well no I'm not worried because the conspiracy is that we've all already had it but because testing my body for antibodies is illegal now I can't.
Yep it was like a super flu and sure if I was an old frail man and shit like that id be down for a bit or dead but I'm a healthy man I ate magic mushrooms, fejoas and smoke cannabis through it. Came out with a lung infection and my asthma re immerging due to fault of my own.
Sure you cite the studies now but ten years ago there was shit all data favoured by mainstream science and you'd not even give this god given mushroom a look sideways.
Go on @wierd pull out a sentence about research you didn't participate in about a drug you've never taken in post-psychedelic, gram range. It should be self prescription like all medicine and yes I agree dosage should be Consistently high and monitored then learned from. Etc

I am not experiencing negative mental states such as paranoia or extreme aversion or any fear of others.
That's a side effect of projects mockingbird and we've gone over this, I hope this clears the confusion. But I do hear that mental cloudyness is a side effect of the innoculation.

Go seek help. You are batshit insane.

[King Zultan]

What the fuck is this project mockingbird he keeps going on about?

[Starver]

Well no I'm not worried because the conspiracy is that we've all already had it but because testing my body for antibodies is illegal now I can't.

Waitwhat?

(Even if I could follow that chain of so-called-logic, around the missing words you obviously forgot to insert to make it actually make sense, I haven't heard of (consensual) serological testing being made illegal.)

Yep it was like a super flu and sure if I was an old frail man and shit like that id be down for a bit or dead but I'm a healthy man

...who might come in contact with old, frail men, if you think it through.

I am not experiencing negative mental states such as paranoia or extreme aversion or any fear of others.

That's only what They want you to think!

Seriously, though, you're told to "fear Project Mockingbird". What you're doing here is blindly swallowing any old rubbish (physically and mentally) while saying that you won't blindly swallow what the first lot of rubbish is saying is the 'real' rubbish, for its own ends.

Everyone probably has their own rabbithole, but yours is twisted particularly deep.

[Starver]

What the fuck is this project mockingbird he keeps going on about?

Project Mockingbird was a JFK-inspired wiretapping exercise to find out what journalists were saying (to identify government leaks, particularly in regard to intelligence material obtained on the then-USSR). For good or ill, it was basically a listening thing, trying to find out how to stop the enemy nation finding too much out how much the US knew about the enemy nation, by way of open publication.

Operation Mockingbird is the one (according to the kind of people who call out "Fake News!" at anything they personally don't want to believe, ironically) where apparently it was manipulating the media to put out false information for <insert latest theory here> purposes. It was either the CIA influencing the US media over Cold War issues (not unlikely, but already 'a thing' in every country, "free press" or otherwise) or the Illuminati controlling the world's entire media (and social media, to truly impracticable degrees) to further whatever it was the lizards want to do to us.


As pointed out, it's very much chiropteric fecal matter.

[wierd]

I am even more confused?

The studies on psilocin and lysergic acid analogs for treatment of depression and cluster headache, respectively, were extremely slow in progressing due to systemic denial by review boards (due to schedule II listings that do nit make sense, same as for weed), and likewise by the perpetual, relentless cockblocks in terms of grant money from government endowments for sciences.

The conspiracy types say it is due to big pharma, but that does not compute; a similarly mind altering compound found in ergot fungus has been on the market for decades.  The more likely explanation is that the general public had an incorrect view about the drugs, and kept electing congress critters that fought the research attempts, for decades.

If you check, and dig in my post history, you will find my stance has consistently been "shows promise as a research candidate, needs approval for studies for efficacy and dosing." Over and over again.

I am actually quite particular about what goes in my body, drug wise. I tend to avoid NSAIDS, even though they are quite useful drugs, except when I actually need them, for instance. My kidneys and liver likely thank me for it.

Again, i did in fact look up the ingredients for the Moderna vac. Does not even have a preservative. Explains the extreme storage temps.

I am of the opinion that just because some people abuse a substance, does not remove its genuine uses. Alcohol, for instance, is very useful as a solvent for medications, as a disinfectant, and even as a cleanser. (Really, it cleans coffe stains of coffee cups like magic!)

In the radical pushback against "Duggies!" And "Hippies!", and the reactionism to Moral Panic, many useful drugs have been kept at arms reach, while people suffered. Cluster headache sufferers especially.

Poo is correct though, that I do not agree that high doses of psilocin are beneficial-- the research that HAS managed to get done, despite the cockblocking by govt, indicates very low, sub-psychedelic doses are safe and effective.

The goal is to help medication resistant depression sufferers live happy and fulfilling lives, not to watch the walls melt.

Likewise with LSD and cluster headache. The idea is to help people who suffer nightmare fuel intensity headaches, not to put them in purple haze.

Minimum effective dose.

Very important.  That both substances have such dosages, that are well tolerated and dont have hallucinogenic side effects, is just proof they were wrongly listed as schedule II.

Now.

About this virus.

This virus has been associated with multiple organ damage, loss of reproductive function in both men and women, significant and persistent loss of lung function, damage to the central nervous system, and a bunch of others.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO CATCH IT.

The lingering and persistent health effects caused by this pandemic will reverberate in the healthcare profession, and in general public health, for decades after this is over.

Just because some economists are shitting blood over lost opportunity costs, does not mean the virus is a harmless cold.

Its fucking not. It wrecks your body in a lot of alarming ways.

Avoid contracting it.  For your sake, and others.

[LordBaal]

I am far more worried about the virus itself, and its myriad complications to those that contract it, than I am about the vaccines, even the more suspicious ones like sputnik or sinovac.

Why would you comrade? I got covid shots from our glorious regime and everything is fine! Death to capitalism, vodka soda! Hahahah


In all seriusness, you guys know my wife got the sputnik and I got the sinopharm. Both are perfectly fine, no weird side effects and any of that. Even when we were on contact with people that dfenitovely got covid we were super duper.

Shr first tested "positive" but the test was inconclusive, then we both got tested and was negative, on both.

We got the shoots months ago now and have 0 side effects or brainwashing, we still love our kid, like capitalism, free marketa and despise socialism. No clots or lung problems or otherwise.

[hector13]

He seems pleased to have discovered support for his conspiracy that Moderna is a portmanteau of “modified” and “RNA” when that’s what the founders of the company were intending in the first place.

The conspiracy is competent enough to be global in reach, but incompetent enough to put in their name how they intend to take over the world.

I’d like you to do me a favour, Amaranth, and listen to the second series of a podcast called “The Parapod”. It’s comedic in nature, but the theme for that season is conspiracies. If nothing else, you’ll get a laugh out of it.

[wierd]

I am far more worried about the virus itself, and its myriad complications to those that contract it, than I am about the vaccines, even the more suspicious ones like sputnik or sinovac.

Why would you comrade? I got covid shots from our glorious regime and everything is fine! Death to capitalism, vodka soda! Hahahah


In all seriusness, you guys know my wife got the sputnik and I got the sinopharm. Both are perfectly fine, no weird side effects and any of that. Even when we were on contact with people that dfenitovely got covid we were super duper.

Shr first tested "positive" but the test was inconclusive, then we both got tested and was negative, on both.

We got the shoots months ago now and have 0 side effects or brainwashing, we still love our kid, like capitalism, free marketa and despise socialism. No clots or lung problems or otherwise.

The modified adenovirus vector based ones have a worrisome (but less worrisome than what covid does) statistic of increased risks of DVT and other vascular complication.

https://news.asu.edu/20211202-scientists-may-have-solved-important-part-mystery-ultra-rare-blood-clots-linked-adenovirus

The study focused on Johnson and Johnson, and Pfizer vaccs, which use such a viral vector.  The study concluded that it was said vector that was the suspected causal agent.

Sputnik and SinoVac are both modified virus based vaccines, IIRC, and as such, are suspicious for that risk.


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-does-the-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine-work

Hence 'suspucious', but not "dangerous."

Apparently sinovac is a whole, inactivated virus based vaccine. There could be OTHER types of potential complication from its
 use. Dont have any studies available at the moment but I can look later.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/sinovac-covid-19-vaccine.html

You got what you could get. I am happy for that.

The mRNA vaccs are very pure, with essentially no other viral component whatsoever to complicate the immune response. They appear to have a very good efficacy, with very low rates if side effects. They seem to be the premium offer right now.