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[Rolan7]

Hooray!  Yeah the personal risk isn't that high for us... eh, relatively, young people.  But I'm glad you're through it.  I still think it gave me a pervasive brain-fog until I got fully vaccinated though.

[Vector]

Yes, anyone reading this thread who is not militantly opposed to vaccination but has just been putting it off should go get their shots Right Now. The peace of mind for you and grandma is too important.

(One of my friends just got her third shot. Protect the immunocompromised people who you love! And those you don't!)

Also we're below 30% ICU capacity across the country, apparently, and 0% in some places (e.g. Oregon). Do yer part to keep people out of the ICU so that if you get hit by a car or something, there's a bed for ya.

[LordBaal]

Even my wife and I got the commrade vaccine, c'mon you unvaccined reader, just do it.

And after vaccination just keep the sanitary measures. If most population were vaccined and we keep the measures for a little while the virus would actually die out.

[dragdeler]

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[LordBaal]

And not only corona, but hopefully other nasty bugs too.

[Ziusudra]

And after vaccination just keep the sanitary measures. If most population were vaccined and we keep the measures for a little while the virus would actually die out.

Sadly, it might not - it seems to hav found new animal reservoirs that can keep reinfecting people.

But some good news is they are testing a vaccine for the whole family corona viruses.

[LordBaal]

Oh crap.... well, hopefully in a few years there would be a complete vaccine then.

[ChairmanPoo]

And after vaccination just keep the sanitary measures. If most population were vaccined and we keep the measures for a little while the virus would actually die out.

Sadly, it might not - it seems to hav found new animal reservoirs that can keep reinfecting people.

But some good news is they are testing a vaccine for the whole family corona viruses.

Yes, because people regularly go to deer concerts.

If everyone was vaccinated and we were sensible for a couple of months this crap would peter out. As it is, odds are we'll keep getting waves until between vaccines and reinfections there's enough background immunity to safely ignore it (as opposed to now in which its being unsafely ignored)

[Ziusudra]

Yes, because people regularly go to deer concerts.

If everyone was vaccinated and we were sensible for a couple of months this crap would peter out. As it is, odds are we'll keep getting waves until between vaccines and reinfections there's enough background immunity to safely ignore it (as opposed to now in which its being unsafely ignored)

Thinking that a majority of people could act sensibly for more than a week is not very sensible. And it's not just the deer and it only take one interaction and every infection is a chance for a variant that gets around existing immunity.

[ChairmanPoo]

Thinking that a majority of people could act sensibly for more than a week is not very sensible.

This is a bit of a circular argument,  but granted, prople wont act sensibly

And it's not just the deer and it only take one interaction  and every infection is a chance for a variant that gets around existing immunity

No, but there are not many clinical reservoirs (or for that matter documented new infections from animals). I dont know what you mean with interaction there... And every infection is a  (small)chance for a new strain, but obviously not every infection is a new strain.

 Besides the scenario about which we are talking is precisedly to play it safe to minimize infections to avoid all that. Which is worth noting that several countries have done successfuly. Again, the problem with infections is exponential growth... but decreases are also exponential. If you prevent one infection who in turn would infect 6 people who in turn... you see my point. Nipping it in the bud  helps.

That most of the world is doing the insane thing of letting it run its course doesnt mean its the only option.  I'll grant you that sensible or not its the scenario our dear leaders have accepted, and thus at this point the most inportant thing is personal safety while we wait for this shit to finally end :/

[Starver]

I very nearly used the phrase "Better a lockdown last slightly longer than necessary than every new lockdown is slightly shorter than necessary" in various conversations over the last year and a half, including last week.

In some ways it became both more and less useful as an argument, as time went on.


Anyway, if deer are a problem reservoir, stop people hunting them, for a year. I'm sure the kind of people who do that will understand, and it's not as if anyone's trying to perfectly reasonably cut down on their guns, right?

[King Zultan]

Yes, because people regularly go to deer concerts.

I'm one of the people who goes to those, it's not for everyone but I like them.

[McTraveller]

Anyway, if deer are a problem reservoir, stop people hunting them, for a year.

Many places will have a host of different issues if you do this.  (Just do a search for "results of overpopulation of deer" for a hint at what this can do to an ecosystem.)

What's that quote?  "For every problem there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong" (H.L. Menken)?

[dragdeler]

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[Starver]

Anyway, if deer are a problem reservoir, stop people hunting them, for a year.

Many places will have a host of different issues if you do this.  (Just do a search for "results of overpopulation of deer" for a hint at what this can do to an ecosystem.)

What's that quote?  "For every problem there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong" (H.L. Menken)?

I already thought of that.

You also should increase the numbers of wolves, mountain lions, alligators, etc, as appropriate[1] to the habitat.


I challenge you to argue that I am being simple, elegant and wrong, with this suggestion.

[1] Or not! The world surely needs to see a Rocky Mountain Alligator, as a key apex predator...