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[ChairmanPoo]

Are those 250 million doses for the entire EU?

No, just for the Netherlands. The plan is to give every Dutch citizen 15 shots.

[Starver]

Regardless of my general "I'm not a priority" attitude, and separately from my GP contacting me[1] I am sitting within the lowest decade range allowed to be booking one for no other reason, and I know where there's a vaccination centre near me[2] so I went to the appropriate website. There's apparently actually bookable slots tomorrow (which are bad for me, due to extended commitments around the whole weekend) and onwards. So, I thought, why not? If they can use footfall, I'll fall my own feet in their direction. With all AMs and PMs, for the next few days, except Monday PM (which would have been perfect to fit into what I was already doing, but that'd be too much to ask...), Tuesday looked most workable.

Click ick click. Booking details, then contact details then... "The slot is no longer available, start again".

Same slot looked available, on the go-round, so tried it again, contact details... "The slot is no longer available".

Ok, redo, moved the slot a bit (further away from the obvious untried-because-unavailable bits of the day, obviously in demand, and a lot more times within the new range chosen)... "The slot is no longer...".

Again, for a couple of hours more distant. "The slot is..."


It'll wait.

I'll either talk to my GP after all (don't really want to bother them, I've seen the queues outside they sometimes seem to have when I pass) or give the national site-booker another go next week. Still time to (theoretically) get the first and then the second one in before mid-July[3]

((Yes, I'd be happy talking to a receptionist in person - discouraged as it might be these days - or booking online... but I'm reluctant to call a poor phone-drone tasked to handle these things, which is what I know I'll generally get if I try to do it telephonically. I can see the problem with my logic and reasoning, but that's me for ya...))


[1] I haven't been to the doctor's for best part of a decade (and that was for an injury the receptionist thought I better go to A&E for; the time before was in the '00s.), I'm not actually sure if I'm prominant enough on their radar...

[2] I'll walk there and back, make it an afternoon out...

[3] For the only fixed event that happens (if it happens) this year, for which I'd be upset if participation depends upon/tends towards safely-certified participants. A lot of water yet to flow under that bridge, but it's something to aspire towards.

[martinuzz]

Presented as 'great news!'... Pfizer / Moderna vaccines protect those vaccinated for half a year! Super!!!! Hurray!

This does ofcourse mean that I will never get vaccinated. By the time I can apply for it, they have to start anew with vaccinating the health care workers, high risk groups and elderly first.

[Vector]

No, protect for at least half a year. It's not known whether the protection disappears after half a year, yet.

[nenjin]

How is it that the covid vaccine is good for 6 months while every other vaccine is good for decades if not a life time?

[Vector]

We only know about the lasting for decades part because the vaccine itself has been around for decades. Since you can get COVID once and then again like 3 months later, there's concerns that training the immune system doesn't confer lasting immunity, especially because coronaviruses in general mutate rapidly.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The longevity of a vaccine is determined by two factors - how long your memory B cells hold onto the trained antibody response and how quickly the pathogen can mutate new structures to invalidate the previous antibodies. The latter is why the influenza vaccine only lasts a year and only has 50% effectiveness - influenza virons have an incredibly rapid structure shifting, making the antibodies you developed against it of limited effectiveness or even useless. Conversely, something like polio retains an antibody response for around 30 years and doesn't mutate rapidly, making the vaccine extremely effective against it.

Both of those failings would be very bad, if they were true for covid. Unfortunately, the six months figure does line up quite well with previous reports of double infections with covid and with the antibody dropoff figures we have.

[Frumple]

Whoo, the "site pain" side effect is kicking in much harder after a nap. Arm be feeling pretty fucked up right now.

[TamerVirus]

Presented as 'great news!'

...to shareholders

[martinuzz]

The producers of the Russian Sputnik vaccin are advertising their product illegaly in the Netherlands on Twitter. Not only that, they are adding half-truths and lies about the other vaccins with their advertisements.

[Starver]

Spoiler: Who's now got their first AZ/Oxford shot and two thumbs? (click to show/hide)

If I don't say anything more about it, it's going fine.

If I don't say anything more at all, the chances are I'm still fine, just broken/lost all my networked computers/etc.

[nenjin]

Standing here waiting to get Moderna #1.

[Loud Whispers]

I got double pfizerd. First one no problems, second one I felt the pfain

[scriver]

Pfizted

[Vector]

The producers of the Russian Sputnik vaccin are advertising their product illegaly in the Netherlands on Twitter.

Initially read this as "Tinder" and had a little chuckle