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[ChairmanPoo]

Ireland has 38 free ICU beds aa of yesterday
 

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Wow, a whole 38 beds free boys! We'll be out of this mess by Christmas at this rate!

[DemonOfWrath]

The real story of why a very small number of cases escaping quarantine caused a large outbreak in the first place is that this is Melbourne, it's a fucking cold place and it was midwinter. Cold/flu virus spread a lot here. Sydney didn't have anywhere near as strict rules, yet they never had the level of virus breakout we did here. It's not because the local governments up in Sydney or Brisbane are super smart or did things any differently than we do: they have the exact same amount of bungling and bureaucracy as we do in Melbourne. Those places are just 1000 km farther north than we are, and considerably warmer. Melbourne's just a fucking cold and wet place in winter, perfect for virus spreading, so we had rules that were 10 times as strict as the more northerly parts of Australia, yet 10 times as much problem containing the virus spread at the same time. The problem is not that the government here was paradoxically both too lax and too strict at the same time, depending on which article you read.

As another person in Melbourne, there absolutely were reasons why we fared a lot worse than Sydney beyond weather (they had an outbreak around when our second one started). For instance our contact tracing system was pretty objectively worse than NSW, where they were calling out specific hot spots and places of infection months ago. That's been fixed as of about 2 weeks ago, but the government here didn't send people to learn from NSW's system until several months into our second wave. NSW for sure had better infrastructure in place to deal with it than Vic did.

Now a lot of the blame in the media is unfair (and the opposition can't do anything but scream "TEH ECONOMIES" so they're worse), but the government here should be chewed out badly for the parts where they were either lax or stupid.

Remember when we had the week or so of 1/4 of people testing positive not being at home quarantining and the entire time the response was "well, umm, I guess we'll send people to knock on their doors again?". They didn't have a clue how to deal with the idea some people weren't quarantining, and that was mind-boggling that they hadn't thought about that possibility well in advance (did nobody ever ask "what happens if people don't quarantine at home?" in a meeting?).

[Starver]

We're (possibly) in the second half of the Covid Cup semi-final and the score is Scotland 5, England 3.


England uses a 3-Tier system for Covid threat/lockdown purposes.

Scotland adds a Tier-0 (best "still no vaccine" level of local issuelessness) and Tier-4 (hard, hard lockdown needed in this area - stay shut up in your crannogs except for the most essential inter-clan raiding purposes).


/hears a sparse but proud rendition of Flower O' Scotland from the appropriate half of the socially-distanced crowd...

[dragdeler]

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[Zangi]

Social bubbles is probably a stopgap that could fulfill the sim’s social need while mostly keeping them isolated from the rest of the world.  Of course 1 of them getting it means that whole bubble is likely to get it. 

Is a risk, but mental health has overall been very low on people’s ‘care about list’.

[feelotraveller]

Reported cases again broke the record for 23rd October: 445 419.  Figures for the 22nd ended up slightly higher than those I posted yesterday now being 429 411.  If the usual weekly cycle of numbers continues tomorrow will be slightly higher again before dropping through to midweek. (The latest midweek figures were the highest midweek figures to date so no real joy there either.)

All this to say - it is worse than it has ever been before (in terms of case numbers worldwide*) and is still increasing.  Don't hold your breath for a peak anytime soon.

* Worldwide matters because it forms the total reservoir for the virus.

[misko27]

Same thing on the national level here sadly. Yesterday was the second highest day of the pandemic with 75,064 cases, worst since July 16th which had 75,400.

Today was 79,000, eclipsing both.

[hector13]

We're (possibly) in the second half of the Covid Cup semi-final and the score is Scotland 5, England 3.


England uses a 3-Tier system for Covid threat/lockdown purposes.

Scotland adds a Tier-0 (best "still no vaccine" level of local issuelessness) and Tier-4 (hard, hard lockdown needed in this area - stay shut up in your crannogs except for the most essential inter-clan raiding purposes).


/hears a sparse but proud rendition of Flower O' Scotland from the appropriate half of the socially-distanced crowd...

I’m a bit torn between this tiered system. Like, on the one hand, having different rules for different places is just going to make people confused over what they should be doing in different areas (if indeed they go between different areas) but on the other, assuming the rules for the different tiers are communicated clearly, it means people should be able to slide into the right mindset depending on the tier severity.

It could also be my perception of the leaders doing this. Boris is just all sorts of awful and doesn’t appear to actually know what the rules are, and has received some pushback from some areas that the government put into the most severe category, while I think Sturgeon is at least trying to do the right things, even if she makes some missteps and upsets people, like the entire hospitality industry in Scotland.

[Starver]

A funny (FCVO...) situation I heard mentioned was that Chester Football Club's ground straddles the England/Wales border. They were setting up a drive-in movie theatre in its car-park, but had to shift it from the parking area sitting in Wales to the one sitting in England.

They were going to give access to the loos in the stadium, but they are in Wales, so they had to bring in portaloos.



(On Boris, he's actually not done what he's been doing with other things: "Both of us obviously need to compromise! So you must stop being obstructive and give us what we want." Instead, he's been negotiating exceptions and recompense with individual sub-regions, perhaps being more afraid of losing his recent Red-Wall Conservative seats. Which means things like gyms aren't staying opening in one area, are in another, then later on he placates the first area by allowing them, but with a whole muddle of other personalised conditions/funding mixed in.  It generally doesn't affect the core Level-Limits on how many (including zero) can meet up in given locations from given household bubbles, but it doesn't help for "not meeting up, but merely a place multiple individuals might utilise facilities" like gyms, shops, restaurants, etc.)

[misko27]

Remember when I said the US record for cases in one day was broken today? It wasn't finished apparently, kept going after 79,000; we're at 82,000 for the day, beating the previous highest total for the country by 7,000. Considering yesterday was the third-highest of the pandemic here...

[Frumple]

Can't really call it round two when round one's never particularly ended, but not-so-sudden death overtime? That might work!

[wierd]

Remember when you guys asked how many fatalities we expected from Covid in the US, and I said 3 million?

People acted incredulous?

looks like I am on track to being right. Winning sucks.

[Frumple]

Wait, when did that happen? 3 million eventual dead has been the back of napkin "duh" body count for the ~1% fatality rate and 100% infection stateside since... however many years months ago it was people figured out that's somewhere around the point the fatality rate is. There's not incredulity to be found with that guess, just the crushing weight of exactly what failure will look like of our country doesn't stop fucking this up.

[misko27]

Day ended at 85,000, btw. Broke the previous record by 12%.

But it's not real until you see it visually, so here it is:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The... "good" news is that cases will be down Saturday and Sunday as they typically are on weekends, but that's obviously not reflective of actual declines in case totals, just the slowdown in work on weekends.