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[Max™]

Two days of 60k+ cases, been sitting around 900 deaths a day, but those deaths got infected back when we were just restarting the climb past 20k cases in june.

I wish I could see a reason to think the multiple 50k+ case days over the last two weeks won't result in a terrifying new jump in deaths that we're just seeing the edge of...

...I really wish I could.

[scriver]

So yesterday the news on my news was that covid, according to an as of yet unpublished Italian study, is "getting weaker". What do you think, reliable or media hyperbole?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Strains are popping off all over the place as viruses do, but no I don't think so. This may be a statistical illusion created by more infections of young people, who are more likely to have mild symptoms and survive.

[andrea]

More younger people, better treatment, not overwhelmed hospitals. Plus many vulnerable groups have been hit already.
There are a lot of reasons why we would expect a lot less deaths (at least in Italy) compared to march.
Of course it is possible that a weaker strain is spreading and perhaps they have proven that in the study. Just, there are many reasons for lower lethality besides a weaker virus.

[misko27]

US death rate just spiked, from 200+ to 900+ 2 days in a row, so I wouldn't put any money on a guess that the virus has gotten weaker just yet.

[ChairmanPoo]

So yesterday the news on my news was that covid, according to an as of yet unpublished Italian study, is "getting weaker". What do you think, reliable or media hyperbole?

For what I've read all along its not significantly changing one way or the other, nor is it expected to do so. Any supposed behavior changes are more likely related to changes in human behavior.

[Reelya]

It's plausible, but it doesn't mean the effects of virus is weakening.

A milder strain can spread more because it creates a higher amount of asymptomatic carriers. But that's also the whole reasons SARS-1 and MERS didn't kill more people despite being so lethal. Covid-19 specifically spread more and killed more because it's "weaker". Highly deadly things tend to make more people really sick straight away so they don't have long asymptomatic incubation periods, so they're ironically easier to get on top of.

So with the virus already mutating, the mutations that best slip through our defenses are going to spread the fastest. So if you have a "quarantine anyone with the sniffles" rule for example, then a variant that gives less people the sniffles will proliferate faster than the other strains.

[scriver]

We should breed the weaker strains to hunt the stronger strains

[TamerVirus]

We should breed the weaker strains to hunt the stronger strains

The strong should fear the weak?

[scriver]

Virus alone weak. Virus together -- strong.

[delphonso]

You damn dirty viruses!

[misko27]

See now the rolling average of Virus deaths in the US is up 5% from two weeks ago. After over a month of falling, and at one point being down 60% and consistently being quite low.

It's gonna be nasty when the full brunt of this wave starts being reflected in deaths.

[Bralbaard]

We should breed the weaker strains to hunt the stronger strains

The strong should fear the weak?

That is more of less the idea behind vaccines.

[McTraveller]

Yeah the positivity rate is way up; this shows that (all else equal), it's not more testing giving bigger numbers.

First "close" infections to me - my sister-in-law and nephew were sick last week (been back to normal so far for a week now, so that's good at least.), but tests came back positive. My brother and other nephew had no symptoms, so must've been in the asymptomatic/so mildly symptomatic they didn't notice cohort.  They had visited my parents during the window period, so now parents are on watch list...hasn't quite been 14 days since their visit though but they have an appointment to get tested themselves.

Whee.

[nenjin]

Closest to me that I've heard....

Is that my friend's, brother's, wife's parents (all from Florida, the parents are in their 70s) got sick. They both were hospitalized, the dad went to the ICU and was put in a coma, but then was taken out of it about a week later and moved out of the ICU. They're both in recovery now.

Closer to home I suppose, there's been many cases in the nursing home where my grandmother lives. So far she's not gotten sick.