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[scriver]

Make a hentai joke when you start nose bleeding, see where it goes

Only those who have not born witness to Dread Florida with their own eyes believe such an explanation.

There is simply no way the only reason behind Florida's crazy is the publicity laws. These things aren't commonplace and Florida is mostly populated by retirees I hear

[Ziusudra]

All human behavior comes from human nature. Individuals express and repress differently, but get enough of them and anything is possible. I assure you, the crazy happens every where people are, you just aren't reading about it (as much) else where.

As I know more of mankind I expect less of them, and am ready now to call a man a good man upon easier terms than I was formerly.
– Samuel Johnson

[scriver]

Oh, all human behaviour stems from human nature. But certain circumstances supports and creates certain behaviours.

Such as living in a stinky hellish steam swamp

[feelotraveller]

Eh, I don't care about the entire US stats. I just care about my state. Yeah it's selfish but this is a highly geographically dependent phenomenon.

It is definitely clear, though, that our daily case counts have gone up in the 30 days since our restrictions have been lifted a bit.

Mortality though has been about flat for the past 30 days.  So that's an interesting trend - suggesting either the medical pros are better at keeping people alive, the characteristics of the virus or the infected have changed, and/or the lag in those stats is greater than 30 days.  Seems to be real though - the actual peak deaths per day in MI occurred 18 days after the peak in daily case counts.  So 30 days after restrictions lifting and having mostly constant daily deaths is significant, not a fluke.

There has definitely been a shift in the demographic of the new cases.  See for example: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/02/covid-19-young-people-america-coronavirus 

Between late March and late June, Ellingson said the mean age of new cases in the state dropped from 51 to 38.*

Given that new cases (in the US) are much more likely than previously to be younger people and younger people are much less likely to become severely ill/die of Covid-19, that would explain at least some of that.  Also remember to factor in the time delay between infection and death.

Why cases have spiked amongst younger people is another question.  Greater susceptibility to media manipulation?  Different socialisation patterns??  Less tolerance to isolation? More general ebullience?  'Not going to affect me and I don't give a shit about others' attitude?  Probably all of the above and more besides. 

* Cherry-picked quote for TLDR; syndrome.

[kaijyuu]

I would hazard a guess that it's mostly greater willingness to visit a doctor when having symptoms. Young people don't have money.

Demographically, susceptibility to media manipulation and "me first" attitudes are much more prevalent in older people, so definitely not those.

[Jopax]

Also essential workers and probably being in a shittier financial situation with no savings so they gotta keep working if they want to have food and housing.

[scriver]

I would hazard a guess that it's mostly greater willingness to visit a doctor when having symptoms. Young people don't have money.

Demographically, susceptibility to media manipulation and "me first" attitudes are much more prevalent in older people, so definitely not those.

Only than people above 25-Older

[ChairmanPoo]

Demographically, susceptibility to media manipulation and "me first" attitudes are much more prevalent in older people, so definitely not those.

I regard this claim as dubious as when that other guy stsrts raving about how in the olde times (aka his generation and older) people got educatrd into financisl responsability

[scriver]

31-year-olds are at the very most peakest intellectual and emotiollectional height

[Bralbaard]

Mortality though has been about flat for the past 30 days.  So that's an interesting trend - suggesting either the medical pros are better at keeping people alive, the characteristics of the virus or the infected have changed, and/or the lag in those stats is greater than 30 days.  Seems to be real though - the actual peak deaths per day in MI occurred 18 days after the peak in daily case counts.  So 30 days after restrictions lifting and having mostly constant daily deaths is significant, not a fluke.

Don't get too comfortable yet. Latest figures seem to imply that the number of dead might have started to slowly go up. If I read the graph correctly we are now indeed about 18 days behind the date where case numbers started to go back up. (but this graph itself seems to imply that earlier on the delay between cases and deaths was much shorter)

[McTraveller]

That US national view is "too big" though; data is smeared out over too large a geographic area.  I was looking just at my state, for which cases are concentrated in a small geographic area with a radius of maybe 50 miles.

[Iduno]

Mortality though has been about flat for the past 30 days.  So that's an interesting trend - suggesting either the medical pros are better at keeping people alive, the characteristics of the virus or the infected have changed, and/or the lag in those stats is greater than 30 days.  Seems to be real though - the actual peak deaths per day in MI occurred 18 days after the peak in daily case counts.  So 30 days after restrictions lifting and having mostly constant daily deaths is significant, not a fluke.

Don't get too comfortable yet. Latest figures seem to imply that the number of dead might have started to slowly go up. If I read the graph correctly we are now indeed about 18 days behind the date where case numbers started to go back up. (but this graph itself seems to imply that earlier on the delay between cases and deaths was much shorter)

Yeah, hospitals not being (at the time) overcrowded was helping keep the death rate down, but they've already been turning people away from the hospitals again because they're already over capacity. That death rate is going to rise pretty quickly now (assuming those people are still counted).

[Bralbaard]

I also think early on a lot of cases went undiagnosed until people came into the hospital because they were already very ill. Today there's a lot more testing with mild symptoms, so that would definitely give you a longer delay. Let's hope they can avoid capacity problems at hospitals this time around.

[ChairmanPoo]

That US national view is "too big" though; data is smeared out over too large a geographic area.  I was looking just at my state, for which cases are concentrated in a small geographic area with a radius of maybe 50 miles.

Any country's view is too big in that regard. Which is one of the reasons why I think deaths per capita is probably not a good estimate of the situation, as this can be influenced by many things..

I suspect we're getting some sort of new lockdown in Europe sooner rather than later

[Iduno]

I also think early on a lot of cases went undiagnosed until people came into the hospital because they were already very ill. Today there's a lot more testing with mild symptoms, so that would definitely give you a longer delay. Let's hope they can avoid capacity problems at hospitals this time around.

Already a week too late for that hope, depending on where you are.