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[feelotraveller]

Monday (yesterday) by all reports.  Not that it matters, it will still be true in a weeks time.   

[martinuzz]

Nah the WHO already said that last week, I posted about it then, when my newspaper reported it.

EDIT: June 23 to be precise, 7 days ago.

The WHO warns that, despite things looking up in European countries, on a global scale the pandemic is only getting worse.
Where it took more than 3 months for the first million people to be infected, the latest million infections occurred in only 8 days.

[feelotraveller]

Nah the WHO already said that last week, I posted about it then, when my newspaper reported it.

EDIT: June 23 to be precise, 7 days ago.

Got a source for that?

The quote from Tedros is from Monday June 29 according to the various sources I've seen  (e.g. somewhat at random https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/who-warns-coronavirus-pandemic-is-speeding-up-as-countries-ease-lockdown-rules.html).

If we're talking saying 'similar' things, well for months the WHO have tried to bring perspective to the likely timescale of the epidemic (I don't know of anything special about what they said on the 23rd...).  People seem to want to insist that after a week or two holed up with their favourite Belgian that it's all over. 

While local circumstances vary in global terms we've still got worse to come.  And while the epidemic continues to grow globally even regions which have done pretty well containing it will see persistent outbreaks as it is imported back from other areas.

[wierd]

I do find myself wondering if there's any chance that the virus won't become ubiquitous in the US. In the UK, Johnson does at least have his "fuck business" motto, and will eventually respond to loud and overwhelming public demand, which as far as I can see is how we got a nationwide lockdown here in the first place. So if the funeral parlours start filling up too fast, we'll go back into lockdown, no matter what party donors or business says. The US, however... it doesn't seem like the democratic machine is really working at all. Plus a much larger proportion of the population seems to genuinely want to let the virus run its course.

If the bodies really start piling up while Trump is still president, I'm not sure how he'll try to save face. War with China, perhaps.

Nonono. You are totally not catching the situation here.  Noam Chomsky's Engineered Consent is alive and well here.

Example A:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/13/protest-violence-coronavirus/

Example B:
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/04/16/reopen-wisconsin-rally-planned/

Example C:
https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Second-Reopen-Virginia-rally-organized-for-Wednesday-569788411.html


Meanwhile, the VAST MAJORITY of the country says "FUCK THAT, STAY HOME."
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/22/outbreak-poll-most-americans-favor-continued-lockdown/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/04/14/even-if-us-lockdown-was-lifted-today-most-americans-wouldnt-resume-life-as-normal-new-poll-finds/#6a3f1f2c7764
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll/despite-scattered-protests-most-americans-support-shelter-in-place-reuters-ipsos-poll-shows-idUSKCN22336P

And yet--- VERY SHORTLY after these protests, Herr Trump goes all gung-ho on reopening.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52314866
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/timeline-governments-evolving-guidance-americans-return-work/story?id=70146555 (<--The rhetoric on this one is very telling.)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/14/coronavirus-fauci-questions-trump-timeline-reopen-american-economy/2989714001/

I would bet money that some wealthy interests started some twitter campaigns with the #ReOpen hashtag, specifically to create very prominent news headlines (that could be made extra sensational, like the ABC news one above), to sew FUD and create the illusion that most americans wanted to have the economy reopen early. (When they most certainly did not.) This would create the engineered consent for reopening early, to cover up for the clearly destructive, unwanted, and entirely short-term fiscally-motivated action.

 

[martinuzz]

Source:
https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/live-who-waarschuwt-pandemie-neemt-niet-af-maar-versnelt-nog-steeds~ba747017/
I guess dutch media have a faster, more direct line to the WHO

[Starver]

...a week or two holed up with their favourite Belgian...

Merckx, Tintin, Poirot or Servatius of Tongeren?

[wierd]

Dont be ridiculous. The only Belgian I will hold up with is a waffle.

[feelotraveller]

While I must profess a distinct lack of ability to read Dutch, neither myself nor google translate see any quotes from Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the World Health Organization there.

...a week or two holed up with their favourite Belgian...

Merckx, Tintin, Poirot or Servatius of Tongeren?

Not my imbibing substance of choice. 

Edit: though if I had to choose... maybe a mix of Adolphe Sax and Django Reinhard

[ChairmanPoo]

While I must profess a distinct lack of ability to read Dutch, neither myself nor google translate see any quotes from Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the World Health Organization there.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-who/coronavirus-pandemic-accelerating-warns-who-head-tedros-idUSZ8N2BQ01N

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrTedros/status/1274274588218843136

[martinuzz]

Yeah I think my Volkskrant got the news from Reuters too.
And I think you have a script-blocker in your browser, or you would be able to see the article in my link which does mention Tedros.

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WHO waarschuwt: pandemie neemt niet af, maar versnelt Het feit dat diverse landen de strijd tegen het coronavirus onder controle lijken te hebben, betekent niet dat het virus al bijna de wereld uit is. Op wereldvlak neemt de pandemie nog helemaal niet af, maar blijft ze juist versnellen, zo waarschuwt de Wereld Gezondheidsorganisatie (WHO).
Hoewel in een aantal landen de maatregelen tegen het virus worden afgebouwd, waarschuwt algemeen directeur van de WHO, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, voor te veel optimisme. 'Het heeft meer dan drie maanden geduurd alvorens het eerste miljoen besmettingen werd gesignaleerd. Het laatste miljoen kwam er in amper acht dagen', zei hij. Dat bewijst dat de pandemie zich 'blijft versnellen'. Hij benadrukt dat het meer is dan een gezondheidscrisis. 'De gevolgen zullen zich decennialang laten voelen.'

[feelotraveller]

Yeah, I tried to turn it off.  But it was not the quote that I reported but only 'similar' things. 

English trans:

WHO warns: pandemic will not decrease, but accelerates The fact that several countries seem to be in control of the fight against the coronavirus does not mean that the virus is almost out of the world. On a world scale, the pandemic is not yet going down, but is continuing to accelerate, warns the World Health Organization (WHO).
Although measures against the virus are being phased out in a number of countries, WHO CEO Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warns against too much optimism. "It took more than three months for the first million infections to be identified. The last million came in barely eight days, "he said. That proves that the pandemic continues to accelerate. He emphasizes that it is more than a health crisis. "The consequences will be felt for decades."

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[feelotraveller]

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[martinuzz]

I have ceased to understand your point here.

[feelotraveller]

The quote I reported from Tedros does not appear in the extract you cited.  He, as far as I am aware, did not say the words I reported until the 29th.

[martinuzz]

I think that's just a translation thing. The exact words might not be the same, the meaning is.