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[martinuzz]

Yeah I read that in my newspaper too.
Apparently it has a significant effect of reducing death rate in severe cases that are coping with the disease for a longer time.  It seems to have no effect whatsoever in mild cases.
Which leads me to think that a lot of ICU deaths are not actually due to the virus itself, but due to the immune response going haywire and doing damage even when the virus itself has been incapacitated.
It would be awesome if more studies prove it is indeed effective.  Dexamethason is not super expensive either. It's a relatively cheap medicine (around 40 euros per dose).

[nenjin]

Kinda surprised it took this long for them to try steroids? It's been known early on that a hyper-immuno response to the virus is the major cause of death. When people's lungs are swollen, inflamed and filled with fluid, I dunno, I figured steroids would have been tried many times already just to get the swelling down so some level of natural lung function could be achieved. What the hell do I know though, I'm just in an arm chair over here.

[ChairmanPoo]

It has been tried. Previously reported to INCREASE mortality, but we've been getting curves since mid february at least so yet another U turn is not that surprising. We'll see if it pans out.

[Jimmy]

Plus, if it's dexamethasone instead of, say, tocilizumab or baricitinib, I'm gonna be far less suspicious about funding motivations influencing research results.

[ChairmanPoo]

Big covid outbreak in Germany. 30 dead and 400 inffcted today. In a meat plant. Whats the deal with meatplants and covid
.

[nenjin]

Big covid outbreak in Germany. 30 dead and 400 inffcted today. In a meat plant. Whats the deal with meatplants and covid
.

Probably the fact they're assembly lines where people work closely next to each other.

[ChairmanPoo]

🤦‍♂️ I thought we werent doing that anymore

[Frumple]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

not doing that anymore

ha ha ha

 

[McTraveller]

Big covid outbreak in Germany. 30 dead and 400 inffcted today. In a meat plant. Whats the deal with meatplants and covid
.

I'm not sure how to parse that sentence.  30 people died in a meat plant? 30 new deaths in the entire country and, separately, 400 new confirmed cases all associated with the plant?  (Incidentally, 30 deaths would've contracted the illness, what, 20 days ago?)

[Iduno]

Big covid outbreak in Germany. 30 dead and 400 inffcted today. In a meat plant. Whats the deal with meatplants and covid
.

Usually very few safety protections, and crowded working conditions. The meat companies claimed there was going to be a massive meat shortage, and got permission to ignore the safety restrictions. It turns out the "shortage" was because they wanted to open new markets in China to increase profits. They're global companies, so I assume the lies in Germany were the same as here.

[Bralbaard]

In the Netherlands there were issues as well at meat plants. Here it was mostly caused because most of the workers are laborers from eastern europe or elsewhere who live in cramped conditions and travel to work in small vans, where they are easily infected.
People want their cheap hamburgers though, its BBQ season.

[Starver]

"Meat plants" are Triffids, right? Either that or those Pod-People things.

 

[delphonso]

A new outbreak in Beijing was also related to fish imported from Europe.

[ChairmanPoo]

For what I heard thst was more rumor than confirmed. Chopping blocks tested positive. Not fish

[martinuzz]

In the Netherlands there were issues as well at meat plants. Here it was mostly caused because most of the workers are laborers from eastern europe or elsewhere who live in cramped conditions and travel to work in small vans, where they are easily infected.
People want their cheap hamburgers though, its BBQ season.

And they they are not even looking at the real labour force in slaughterhouses.  Most labourers there are illegal immigrants (uitgeprocedeerde asielzoekers) from Africa. The Polish labourers are just hired to keep up appearances of legal hiring.

The problem with inspections of meat plants is that they are announced beforehand. So yeah, when the inspectors come and check, the illegal immigrants all have a day off and aren't there.