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[martinuzz]

We're being quite careful with our medics here work-schedule wise.
Where possible, we keep them on 'normal' rotating shifts to prevent finding ourselves in a situation where our doctors are sitting at home with a burnout.
There's concern about their mental wellbeing though, for the many deaths they see, and worse, having to tell families all day long that they will need to stay home and let their loved ones die all alone, are taking it's toll on their mental health. Over here each hospital has round the clock psych care for their doctors and nurses in the building.
It is expected that when this is over, a lot of doctors will need PTSD care.
And a lot of families will need extensive grief councelling for not having been able to say goodbye.
The future looks bright for psychologists and psychiatrists.

[scriver]

Communes here in Sweden are reporting difficulty importing chemicals necessary for water cleaning today.

[ChairmanPoo]

We're being quite careful with our medics here work-schedule wise.
Where possible, we keep them on 'normal' rotating shifts to prevent finding ourselves in a situation where our doctors are sitting at home with a burnout.
There's concern about their mental wellbeing though, for the many deaths they see, and worse, having to tell families all day long that they will need to stay home and let their loved ones die all alone, are taking it's toll on their mental health. Over here each hospital has round the clock psych care for their doctors and nurses in the building.
It is expected that when this is over, a lot of doctors will need PTSD care.
And a lot of families will need extensive grief councelling for not having been able to say goodbye.
The future looks bright for psychologists and psychiatrists.

I don't want to  get too involved in what goes on in other countries but for what I've seem the situation is similar worldwide: lack of PPE, people getting infected.... But not so much work overload except for the departments most involved. Aka: A&E, Internal Medicine, Intensive Care. Also diagnostics departments, to a greater or lesser extent I guess. Others, not so much.

I am also highly skeptical about your doctors being as cared for as you think. The international pattern is that goverments put up a show about looking for PPE, about supporting doctors (lots of clapping) etc... but in practice the PPE never quite materializes in the quantitoes that were promised, the support is just words, and there is quite a bit of repression. I've heard the same tale time and again from my friends in Spain, UK, Ireland. I read similar testimonies from the US.
I think its everywhere tbh

[Iduno]

One of my hopes for this situation is that it somehow manages to shift culture from "immediate profit" to "let's do things a little bit less efficiently in the short run, so we are more stable across all situations."  This is very visible in the US, but it's not limited to that geopolitical boundary - almost all countries did not have enough "spare" medical or other capacity for this type of event.

We need to shift from "savings is bad, we need to get people to spend" to "no, really, savings is good."  Low interest rates for a decade means personal savings is even less than it usually is, making the financial impacts worse for individuals. 

No concept of savings or stockpiles of medical supplies - and in fact structural penalties for having such stockpiles - has made the medical impact worse.

I think the purpose of the bailouts is to make sure nobody has to learn anything, except the citizens learning that "their side" of politics is also voting to enrich themselves at the cost of the larger populace. I think people all over the world are learning how little the ruling class cares for the citizenry.

[Cthulhu]

The purpose of the bailouts is the economy is increasingly made out of fairy dust and requires regular intervention to keep it from catastrophically and permanently disintegrating.

[Dunamisdeos]

Every time you say you don't believe in fairies, a wall street banker bursts into flames.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

But unironically, all political ideologies except socialism are essentially the modern equivalent of religion and are inherently mystical in their goals and measurements.

[Greiger]

So, the Corpus are just a cult, worshipping money...

So does this mean we've become the generic helmeted villains?

[Cthulhu]

But unironically, all political ideologies except socialism are essentially the modern equivalent of religion and are inherently mystical in their goals and measurements.

Every single person in the world is wrong and an idiot except for the people who agree with me, somehow.

[Imic]

I’m so glad I don’t live in the US.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

But unironically, all political ideologies except socialism are essentially the modern equivalent of religion and are inherently mystical in their goals and measurements.

Every single person in the world is wrong and an idiot except for the people who agree with me, somehow.

I'm glad we're on the same page, now, I was thinking we might offer small business owners amnesty if they fight each other in Hunger Games-style pit matches, but then we just kill the winners anyway as a material critique of capitalism. The problem is, we can't both broadcast it and keep the surprise secret from the winners, so I'm open to suggestions.

[dragdeler]

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[Cthulhu]

But unironically, all political ideologies except socialism are essentially the modern equivalent of religion and are inherently mystical in their goals and measurements.

Every single person in the world is wrong and an idiot except for the people who agree with me, somehow.

I'm glad we're on the same page, now, I was thinking we might offer small business owners amnesty if they fight each other in Hunger Games-style pit matches, but then we just kill the winners anyway as a material critique of capitalism. The problem is, we can't both broadcast it and keep the surprise secret from the winners, so I'm open to suggestions.

That sounds pretty statist to me.  And if there's one thing worse than a capitalist, it's a statist.

[ChairmanPoo]

This shit is getting so old, just as all the rehashing on the topic why Sanders lost.

Hehe this brings me back to something I thought recently... For Sanders to win his supporters should have shown up in the same numbers but behave themselves in a signicantly less enthousiastic way. Like: "in the realm of empiricism that guy is the compromise, personally I'd prefer fully automated gay space communism, but I'm willing to agree on the basic facts of reality. If that is too much to ask I'm sorry to announce I'll be needing to play video games on election day, preventing me from being able to vote, and since every subjective experience is equally valid to you please shut up about it."


just pull the rug below tribalism, since we've established in 2016 that a few tens of thousands of votes in the right places could swing the election, I think aiming for the narcissists who love to repeat what comes from authority only want to show off their knowledge antagonize, is an equally valid election campaign strategy



Imagine the scenes: Bernie Sanders preaching to himself while thousands of desinterested people stare on their smartphones. Yes this is the way.

This is the covid thread not rhe ameripol thread. Take your dirty democrat politics out of my viruses

[dragdeler]

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