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[coalboat]

Zika is only lethal if untreated. It's basically a weaker form of Dengue. Chicungunha popped up at the same time (and is also basically Dengue), and you didn't hear much about it.

What made it actually newsworthy was its effects on fetuses.

Thanks for the information. Currently the danger of coronavirus swings between "very lethal and may leave survivor disabled and highly contagious" and "not more dangerous than regular flu" according to different anecdotal news and stories.

While the virus doesn't seem to be very contagious in other places around the world(at least from the known cases so far), most parts of the country have deployed de facto war-time administrating, which might become normal status even after the epidemic. Media's freedom is only going to be more non-existent.

[TamerVirus]

Well, there’s suspected cases in the area where I work day in and day out.
Concerning...
Too bad the CDC has been dragging their feet on actually verifying these things

[coalboat]

Take care, TamerVirus!

People are reading and forwarding various versions of the "one year in hell Bosnian civil war survivor" article lol.

[Folly]

The number of infected within mainland china now exceeds 24,000, with the death-toll nearing 500.

Outside of China the numbers are:

Australia (at least 13 cases)
Belgium (at least 1 case)
Cambodia (at least 1 case)
Canada (at least 5 cases)
Finland (at least 1 case)
France (at least 6 cases)
Germany (at least 12 cases)
Hong Kong (at least 18 cases, 1 death)
India (at least 3 cases)
Italy (at least 2 cases)
Japan (at least 23 cases, plus 10 in cruise ship quarantine)
Macao (at least 10 cases)
Malaysia (at least 10 cases)
Nepal (at least 1 case)
Philippines (at least 3 cases, 1 death)
Russia (at least 2 cases)
Singapore (at least 24 cases)
South Korea (at least 18 cases)
Spain (at least 1 case)
Sri Lanka (at least 1 case)
Sweden (at least 1 case)
Taiwan (at least 11 cases)
Thailand (at least 25 cases)
United Arab Emirates (at least 5 cases)
United Kingdom (at least 2 cases)
United States (at least 11 cases)
Vietnam (at least 10 cases)

[Lidku]

Hmmm... I don't know if this was posted here yet, but it seems as if Cruise Ship "Diamond Princess" has been quarantined completely due to 10 confirmed cases of Coronovirus aboard the vessel. Damnest thing is that there is barely any chatter going around about it.. Maybe because its fresh news, I don't know.

Honestly this is extremely suspicious.. Something isn't right about this and the general nonchalant attitude toward this virus. Many are downplaying this and wrongfully comparing it the flu, not recognizing its lethality.. This isn't a normal flu. Macau Casinoes have completely closed down, an entire city of 50+ million quarantined, steel barricades being installed in their doors to stop exit, "rumors" of crematoriums at full usage... Is anyone bothered how many people in the West don't care at all? As if we're untouchable? Already 11 cases confirmed in the US.. More than even some other Asian countries in the geographical area of China.

[scriver]

Are you kidding me? People in the west aren't "not caring". If anything people are panicking too much.

[Folly]

Both China and the WHO have criticised the US for enacting travel bans, saying that they will be ineffective at stopping the virus but highly effective at instilling panic.

On the other hand, there seems to be a growing sentiment among analysts that there is no longer any hope of containing this virus, and quarantine efforts will only slow it down until we find a treatment. Also, treatments tried thus far have proven much less effective than initially hoped. So yeah...this could very possibly escalate significantly.

[Loud Whispers]

China criticising people for instilling panic is really rich when we've seen the videos of police dragging people out in the open into quarantine vans, hospitals that are stocked full of amenities but little in the way of medical treatment resembling less a hospital and more an SCP containment facility, literally welding people's doors shut e.t.c.

Sophie Richardson, China director at Human Rights Watch (HRW), said that the unexpected quarantine and China's broader response to the crisis also raised real concerns about transparency.
"From a medical and human rights perspective, it is essential in these situations that people can trust the information available," she told The Telegraph.
"I have real concerns about people who are supposedly "spreading rumours" being harassed by authorities, especially at a time when people are concerned they are not getting accurate information."
Many health experts who would have been "best equipped to sound the alarm about the coronavirus early" had been detained or their research halted because they were not working within the Chinese state system, she cautioned. "They have been treated as anarchists instead.”

The silencing of critics by an authoritarian regime that not only hides the truth from its population, but often creates a culture of fear that stifles the flow of bad news upwards, may offer some clues as to why the Wuhan crisis has seemingly spiraled out of control.
The first case was reported on December 8, when officials reported that it was under control and treatable. The police questioned eight people for allegedly spreading “rumours” online, and as late as last weekend, the authorities hosted a potluck banquet attended by more than 40,000 families.
It was only as the disease spread to other cities that their public denial ended and the government’s unplanned rapid response kicked in.

Really throwing rocks in glass houses when it's likely they do not even have accurate information of how bad things are because the leadership have scared their subordinates & civilians into silence. Props to Chinagov for impressive damage control, but it is damage control mitigated by structural weakness

[Lidku]

Well what I've seen is that this virus multiplies fast once its in your system. If any of you seen videos of a few with the viral strain inside a few people, they simply collapse. Literally just fall down, no screaming, no reaction, nothing. What is causing this? Sepsis shock from the replication then inflammation from it? Or is it directly replicated in the nervous cell system? If it was pneumonia the cause of death would've been slow instead of sudden wouldn't it?

Mostly death by internal asphyxiation or blood flooding the lungs would be the case of death. The leaked videos directly from the ground from Chinese citizens tell a different story. People just falling down to their deaths in a collapse? This isn't a regular "flu". The most lethal aspect of this virus is that it can remain dormant for 14 days until it "activates". Between the timeframe of 14 days you wouldn't even know if you had it. That 1 Cruise at the coast of Japan right now has probably the whole passenger complement already afflicted, considering if we go by rate of infection and the fact that 10 were infected at the time.

This virus.. Isn't natural. Ebola is purportedly similar to this Novel Corona because they both supposedly originate from "animals". Except Ebola wasn't as sophisticated as this one at all. This is very advanced.. I'll stop here because it seems like I'm rambling on. Something is really amiss here though, doesn't help that China isn't properly informing us intel to aid an effort for a solution.

[Il Palazzo]

This virus.. Isn't natural.

Natural viruses can't melt steel beams. For fuck's sake, people.

[delphonso]

A woman in Venezuela (I think) became a confirmed case but without any symptoms. Lidka, if this was a bioweapon, I think these cases would be non-existent. Also, about 600 people have gotten this and are back out on the streets already.

[George_Chickens]

Wow, those whacky Chinese sure are evil. They release a bioweapon on their own citizens, AND they make it less lethal than SARS. So they suffer for longer, obviously.

[Lidku]

I know that implication going around seems idiotic, but the way this has come about just seems too convenient... A biolab in the city of Wuhan, Chinese New Year celebrations, and also the fact that Wuhan is a major lane of traffic. Also look at our government's (assuming most posters here are American) response and not quarantining the ones we evacuated.. No scratch that, the possible infected arriving through airports... We have supposedly have the most top of the line Intelligence Agencies that outwitted the Soviet Union to collapse, but we didn't have knowledge in advance to secure all options against the virus coming here?

Already there have been 11 cases... Remember that the epicentre of where Corona started began at 44 infected.. Look at how far its spread already, to every province in China. We don't even know if the death toll is really in a measely 400s range. Multiple reports of them cremating bodies daily. This is getting out of hand..

EDIT (Ninja'd):

A woman in Venezuela (I think) became a confirmed case but without any symptoms. Lidka, if this was a bioweapon, I think these cases would be non-existent. Also, about 600 people have gotten this and are back out on the streets already.

How do we know that "recovered" people are still in the clear? They can still collapse even with the secondary obvious symptoms subsided. The fact that this virus is in Venezuela this fast.. is unbelievable....

Wow, those whacky Chinese sure are evil. They release a bioweapon on their own citizens, AND they make it less lethal than SARS. So they suffer for longer, obviously.

They could have easily released it by mistake, maybe they were brewing it up in an event of a War taking place. Its naive to think we don't have anything up our sleeves either.

EDIT: We don't know the real mortality/lethal rate since China is not providing adequate documentation. This is definitely far worse and infection than SARS. 

[coalboat]

I think here we should just say what we see with our own eyes. Conspiracy theory has its place but maybe we should keep this thread at least realistic.

[scriver]

Mostly death by internal asphyxiation or blood flooding the lungs would be the case of death. The leaked videos directly from the ground from Chinese citizens tell a different story. People just falling down to their deaths in a collapse? This isn't a regular "flu".

The only thing less reliable than the Chinese government is just any random people, mate