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[MetalSlimeHunt]

Data appears to suggest that COVID-19 is ridiculously deadly in the 75+ age group as well as being skewed towards age overall when causing deaths and/or hospitalization. If there's a factor that is also making it spread powerfully in environments like nursing homes, the death toll could skyrocket. Particularly given how useless the US healthcare system is, not that there's an active treatment for COVID-19.

Unless you're 100% sure you have the actual coronavirus, please keep coming in to work and don't see a doctor. Otherwise it may impact your premiums.

Too rational. You're looking for "you have to come into work, but you are prohibited from working when sick, but you need a signed and certified doctor's note if you are sick, but you need to distinguish between 'sitting sick' in which case we need you to work from home or 'laying sick' in which case we need you to take full PTO until you return and also if you miss three continuous days you're automatically terminated regardless due your pattern of irresponsibility, and also only the HR Veep in the corporate office on the other side of the country is allowed to override any aspect of any of these policies. Also we're raising your premium no matter what happens due to projected changes in healthcare claims caused by the virus."

[Reelya]

You're right that what you outlined is not rational.

If people are that easily replaced, then they should part-time everyone and bring more people on board to start with so that they have more flexibility. The problem is that in a large corporation, all the people in a position to make such decisions just don't care and they're petty spiteful people who enjoy that they can cause misery by merely following along with a procedure manual, since it's someone else's money they're actually wasting.

Where I work, I do need a medical certificate, but that's only if I'm claiming a paid sick day out of my yearly allowance of paid days off. I can take unpaid days off all I want. Asking for medical certificates for unpaid days off is just frankly imbecilic. It's an unnecessary cost to every party involved. And also, it should be illegal since it overburdens the medical system.

If they're bullying the existing people to maintain their shifts no matter what, when there are clearly other people available to do the work, as they are threatening, that's sheer laziness and spitefulness on part of the lower management, not anything to do with locked in stone company policy or profitability. Yes, they could find people to cover your work when you're out for a few days, and that would massively boost overall efficiency if things ran like that, but they just don't want to do any work. And then they'll make it about you not wanting to working.

[scriver]

Premise: Children don't spread the disease as much and turn ill more

Conspiracy Theory: It almost seems like the disease was engineered to affect the adult demographic of a population. Now why would China *ever* want to make such a virus...

[Imic]

Any news on if it’s getting faster or slower or both or neither or no-one knows?

A School in Dublin’s been closed after someone got sick with the virus, so that’s fun.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The best answer is no-one knows. The data showed a slowdown, but that data is corrupted by a large number of clinical diagnoses as well as a demonstrated global shortfall in tracking the number of infected. Large groups of people who weren't noticed before are being found regularly, and the similarity to influenza doesn't help matters at all.

What is known is that the R0 (average number of people each infected person infects) is somewhere between 2 and 4, which is consistent with SARS and MERS as well as being pretty bad for a disease this lethal.

[Imic]

Ii is indeed in Ireland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k_OEW02cb4

I’m not confident that our healthcare system is robust enough to deal with this.

[Iduno]

Employers are just going to reap what they sow.

No they won't.

Those profit margins directly affect our ability to mitigate that suffering, you know.

If that's the case, the system is seriously flawed.

Anyway, sounds like the US had their first confirmed coronavirus death.

IF it's the case? Isn't the US the country who created their own, much more expensive (thousands of dollars) and also ineffective, test for coronavirus even though one that worked already exists? I'd say that best case scenario is profits got in the way of lives. Intentional sabotage also seems somewhat likely.

Data appears to suggest that COVID-19 is ridiculously deadly in the 75+ age group as well as being skewed towards age overall when causing deaths and/or hospitalization. If there's a factor that is also making it spread powerfully in environments like nursing homes, the death toll could skyrocket. Particularly given how useless the US healthcare system is, not that there's an active treatment for COVID-19.

Unless you're 100% sure you have the actual coronavirus, please keep coming in to work and don't see a doctor. Otherwise it may impact your premiums.

Too rational. You're looking for "you have to come into work, but you are prohibited from working when sick, but you need a signed and certified doctor's note if you are sick, but you need to distinguish between 'sitting sick' in which case we need you to work from home or 'laying sick' in which case we need you to take full PTO until you return and also if you miss three continuous days you're automatically terminated regardless due your pattern of irresponsibility, and also only the HR Veep in the corporate office on the other side of the country is allowed to override any aspect of any of these policies. Also we're raising your premium no matter what happens due to projected changes in healthcare claims caused by the virus."

Easier just to fire people for getting sick, and make the ever-fewer employees cover for them with unpaid overtime. That'll show 'em.

[scourge728]

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[Zangi]

They’ll be dead by the time you are one of them old people.  So sure, the world will change with you.

So I heard hospitals are charging over 3k per Covid19 test.
Yea, I ain’t paying that premium.  Let the plague come.

[Akura]

Virus has reached Manhattan. Probably not long before it hits Long Island where I am. If I get sick from it, I'd doubt I'd be able to take off work for it, given how much of a joke my bosses and coworkers are treating it as.

But here's some Last Week Tonight about it.

[ChairmanPoo]

Maybe, just maybe, you should not blanket blame whole swathes of the population  for your very own and very personal problems. And you should certainly not expect to be particularily sympathethic when you wish human miseries (mild as they might be, because regardless of the fearmongering in the last few pages this is still not as big a deal as it's being made up to be) on whole swathes of the population.

[scourge728]

It does sound rather bad when you phrase it like that

[Toady One]

Removed some posts.  Please try to stay focused.

[Frumple]

They’ll be dead by the time you are one of them old people.  So sure, the world will change with you.

So I heard hospitals are charging over 3k per Covid19 test.
Yea, I ain’t paying that premium.  Let the plague come.

Apparently someone put under mandatory quarantine in the US got served a 2k plus bill, too. Nevermind the premium, even just going to the hospital or coming in from out of country might get you nailed.

In other news, at least two confirmed cases in florida now that the CDC has loosened who gets tested. Shit's coast to coast now, I guess.

[Reelya]

Next is mandatory testing, at the consumer's expense. Some hospital administrators must be rolling their hands in glee at this.

I wouldn't be very surprised if Americans en-masse pretend not to have the coronavirus because the private medical system is so broken, thus ensuring just about the worst outbreak anywhere when it actually hits, and this then propels Sanders to the White House in November.

One of the problems is the testing criteria in the USA. You have to be pretty much at death's door before they'll even test for coronavirus, so you get guys who were tested for coronavirus on friday, drop dead by sunday, having already spread it to god knows how many people.