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Author Topic: Untamed Virus Containment Thread:COVID-19: Lurking Omni-Flu Edition  (Read 477629 times)

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3765 on: July 25, 2020, 01:24:28 am »

We're still breaking records, so probably not. 78k yesterday, I believe.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3766 on: July 25, 2020, 01:26:18 am »

Over the past eight days, however, the number of new cases per day in the US has started to plateau.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3767 on: July 25, 2020, 01:29:42 am »

No? It's increased by about 2% every day of the month so far.
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« Reply #3768 on: July 25, 2020, 01:36:13 am »

It looks like the possible beginning of a new plateau to me.  See the flat part at the end?

https://ibb.co/LhBy0G3
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3769 on: July 25, 2020, 01:40:07 am »

On the John Hopkins dataset it looks more like an oscillating wave. Given the record was smashed just today, I'm not convinced the pattern is broken yet.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3770 on: July 25, 2020, 01:42:40 am »

There were 73,400 new cases today and the record is 75,697.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3772 on: July 25, 2020, 01:50:26 am »

That contradicts the New York Times database, updated about 10 minutes ago, which had the record occur on July 8th.

The CDC says there were 72,219 new cases on July 24th.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3773 on: July 25, 2020, 02:01:11 am »

At this point the CDC is probably cooking the books so heavily they could be firing clay.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3774 on: July 25, 2020, 02:04:39 am »

The John Hopkins data, then, which you cited?  Even they show that the record did not occur today.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3776 on: July 25, 2020, 02:12:18 am »

Here's an investigative piece from CNN that casts doubt on Woldometer's counts:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/05/world/worldometer-coronavirus-mystery/
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3777 on: July 25, 2020, 02:21:05 am »

There's some doubt there, but no more than I have towards the sources of every government in the world.

Regardless as to who is or is not cooking books and in which direction, the essence of my point is that all numbers agree we're at least near a peak. The cases seem to have a tendency to waver down and then rapidly increase when they are generally increasing in a real sense, and we haven't reached the end of one of those oscillations yet. This could be an (extremely high altitude) plateau, or it could still be going. Give it another week.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3778 on: July 25, 2020, 02:37:09 am »

John Hopkins and the New York Times are not government sources.  I don't know why you trust Worldometer more than literally every other source, which largely disagree with it (including the World Health Organization), but I will concede that it is possible that this is not a new plateau.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3779 on: July 25, 2020, 02:45:56 am »

Could be that at least for US govt, the govt is actively sabotaging the validity of the data.

EG, the "Official" data, is nothing but lies.
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