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Author Topic: Untamed Virus Containment Thread:COVID-19: Lurking Omni-Flu Edition  (Read 496999 times)

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3525 on: July 07, 2020, 02:40:50 am »

Ran out of some of my usual supplements that I used to get cheap at my old job and the price of them is double at the place that delivers groceries.  The location close to my house was out of stock, so I went back to my old Dollar General for the first time in months to buy some from that location.

When I was there I overheard some little old lady tell off the boss for not wearing a mask, and the boss responded that if they don't like it they can leave.  Boss was also following me around in the "I suspect you are stealing something" way she always does that she thinks is subtle when ex employees shop there.  And I saw no sanitizer, no gloves, no masks on or near the cashier and the debit card machine had the usual covered in fingerprints look it always had indicating it hadn't been sanitized in some time.  This is compared to the location by my house, where the employees are always wearing masks, they have plastic clear screens up between the cashier and the cash registers both have bottles of hand sanitiser for customers to use if they wish. 

Kinda glad I left that location when the getting was good.  Kinda wonder how many cases per day Florida needs to get up to before my old boss starts taking this stuff seriously.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3526 on: July 07, 2020, 04:52:47 am »

As somebody in retail -- that following you around is not supposed to be subtle, it's just supposed to be non-direct. If it was subtle it wouldn't work and you'd probably steal half the shop :P
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3527 on: July 07, 2020, 05:09:29 am »

In South Korea, a 50 year old woman is finally recovering from Covid, after having spent 112 days in a medical coma on a respirator and a heart-lung machine (ECMO, Extrta-corporeal membrane oxygenation), and after having had a double lung transplantation.

The operating lung specialist said that her old lungs were 'as hard as a rock' when they were removed. There was no lung tissue left, only scar tissue.
She is the third person worldwide that received a lung transplantation as a treatment for Covid.

Let the organ harvesting begin!
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« Reply #3528 on: July 07, 2020, 05:27:04 am »

Can I get mechanical lungs which also can spew out an ink cloud in awkward social situations? It's about time that we surpass our feeble meat-limits.
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« Reply #3529 on: July 07, 2020, 07:58:23 am »

In South Korea, a 50 year old woman is finally recovering from Covid, after having spent 112 days in a medical coma on a respirator and a heart-lung machine (ECMO, Extrta-corporeal membrane oxygenation), and after having had a double lung transplantation.

The operating lung specialist said that her old lungs were 'as hard as a rock' when they were removed. There was no lung tissue left, only scar tissue.
She is the third person worldwide that received a lung transplantation as a treatment for Covid.

Let the organ harvesting begin!

Yeah, my fitness-loving coworker "recovered" in 2 weeks in that he could walk again, and was no longer confined to his couch. It's been ~3 months, and he still looks like death. If you get it bad, it's like a serious case of pnemonia, even if you're a very healthy person.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3530 on: July 07, 2020, 09:04:56 am »

For a bit of hearsay that interested me, I went for groceries yesterday and *everyone* was wearing masks and social distancing.  They even followed the directional guides on the aisles.  From the media (and my father describing the situation in his nearby city) I was expecting like half the people to be going maskless as protest, or at least relaxing their precautions.  Instead people were being noticeably more careful than last month.

My casual interpretation is that I live in a city and particularly neighborhood with a lot of relatively-well-off racial minorities.  People who take the situation extremely seriously, and also have the means and information to take precautions.  IDK, it kinda gave me hope for people.

I guess this isn't the sort of demographic that gives much credence to this White House's recommendations, particularly after recent events.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3531 on: July 07, 2020, 10:44:09 am »

After showing symptoms, Brasilian president Bolsonaro has tested positive for corona.
Let's see if he still calls it ' just a small flu' when it hits him hard.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3532 on: July 07, 2020, 10:51:19 am »

What if it doesn't hit him hard? I mean, even with symptomatic covid it's more likely to have only mild to moderate symptoms than severe ones (10-20%). If he falls in the former group it will only encourage him and his followers.  Moreover since he doesn't give a shit about other people he likely wont quarantine.
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« Reply #3533 on: July 07, 2020, 10:55:13 am »

Well yeah, that's the flip side of the medal...  He's 65, so he has a significant chance of it not being severe.
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« Reply #3534 on: July 07, 2020, 11:05:57 am »

The pattern I've discerned is a strange one: Covid seems to cause lung damage somewhat independently of how severe the other symptoms are. It seems like most people who have severe cases get some lung damage, but some get far more lung damage than others. And some mild cases also appear to be resulting in lung damage significant enough to impact their breathing for months after the fact.

So a mild case does not necessarily save you...it would be interesting to review the lung quality of people with mild cases who ended up dying.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3535 on: July 07, 2020, 11:12:01 am »

It appears that most of the lung damage is mostly done by the immune system, not by the virus itself.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19: Ride the Wave, Dude! Edition
« Reply #3536 on: July 07, 2020, 11:24:44 am »

Also bear in mind most cases are mild until they aren't... and he's actually had symptoms. He's not asymptomatic or anything, he's got fever, fatigue, muscle pain, so he's not among that lucky group that get it and don't notice.

Remember Boris was fine, up until he wasn't. That was day 9 or so?
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« Reply #3537 on: July 07, 2020, 11:25:13 am »

In other news, CNN presenter Richard Quest, who contracted Covid in april, sends out a plea to everyone to avoid the virus.'To everyone that didn't get the virus yet, or have witnessed how it can ravage you, do whatever you can do to avoid this hurricane'.
Since he contracted the virus half april, he has been homebound, often exhausted.He recovered from the virus and started working again from home, but this has been difficult.  Recently, the coughs and fatigue have returned.

'the virus is like a tornado', says Quest. 'When it has landed, it whirls around in the body, causing chaos, confusion, fits of coughing, while damaging every organ it touches.  Some do not survive it's visit.  Others who survive realize that the damage done is much larger than thought at first'.

For example, to his own surprise, Quest has become terribly clumsy.  'When I try to pick up a glass, I knock it over or drop it on the floor.  I trip over my furniture.  It is as if the part of my brain that prevents object collision is no longer functioning.  Sometimes I am also confused;  small slowdowns in thinking, not finding the right word, that kind of thing'.


Here's an interview Quest gave in April, when he had just heard he had contracted the virus:
https://youtu.be/CuRuIzUTrnk
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« Reply #3538 on: July 07, 2020, 12:54:24 pm »

It appears that most of the lung damage is mostly done by the immune system, not by the virus itself.
Obviously, then, we need to destroy his immune system. Just to be helpful, of course.

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For example, to his own surprise, Quest has become terribly clumsy.  'When I try to pick up a glass, I knock it over or drop it on the floor.  I trip over my furniture.  It is as if the part of my brain that prevents object collision is no longer functioning.  Sometimes I am also confused;  small slowdowns in thinking, not finding the right word, that kind of thing'.
Difficulty picking up glasses. Difficulty walking around simple terrain. Brainfarts and acute lethothological miscommunication... I hope no actual world leader starts to exhibit such signs.
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« Reply #3539 on: July 07, 2020, 02:40:55 pm »

Also bear in mind most cases are mild until they aren't... and he's actually had symptoms. He's not asymptomatic or anything, he's got fever, fatigue, muscle pain, so he's not among that lucky group that get it and don't notice.

Remember Boris was fine, up until he wasn't. That was day 9 or so?

This is how I've heard it seems to week. The second week is when it goes bad.
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