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[ZBridges]

Can he actually do that?  It seems like it would get opposed in court immediately.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The President has almost unlimited latitude in immigration standards, as a combination of being the enforcer of wide-ranging standard and emergency immigration clauses passed by Congress, executive control over all Federal immigration offices, and the virtual nonexistence of immigration rights in the US Constitution that could override either.

So yeah, he probably can, especially given that there's an actual state of emergency and this isn't exclusively a fit of racist nationalist pique. I mean, it'll turn into that when he never rescinds the change, but right now I'd expect it to pass muster.

[Bumber]

However, I think that people literally risking their lives and those of their loved ones after a month of being cooped up is proof that very few people would ever sit on unemployment benefits if the alternative is gainful employment.

You'd be able to go where you please if it were just unemployment, though. Many beaches and parks are shut down right now.

[Jopax]

While at the same time as he's telling Americans to walk around spitting in each other's faces, Trump's just announced a complete suspension of all immigration into the USA.

To be fair though, I really doubt many people would want to get into the USA right now, what with the whole country becoming a slow-motion trainwreck of one idiotic decision after another :V

[Zangi]

While at the same time as he's telling Americans to walk around spitting in each other's faces, Trump's just announced a complete suspension of all immigration into the USA.

To be fair though, I really doubt many people would want to get into the USA right now, what with the whole country becoming a slow-motion trainwreck of one idiotic decision after another :V

It literally takes years to get approved under normal circumstances.  So just stopping it now brings many questions to whatever the implementation may be.

[martinuzz]

A US study amongst veterans has shown that the medicine that Trump has been advertising, hydroxychloroquine, is not helpful against Covid-19.
In fact, it even does more harm than good; amongst those treated with it, there were more deaths than amongst the control group that got regular treatment.
Researchers analyzed the medical data of 368 male veterans who had been treated, and either cured or died in various hospitals for veterans in the US.
Out of the group treated with HCQ, 28% died, versus 11% in the control group.

Impeach him now, for trying to actively get people killed by advertising lethal medication.

[Starver]

I've heard conflicting ideas of what "Immigration" means. The 'travel ban' from China didn't stop thousands from arriving from China (and the evidence is the virus just came in from the West in the east, not the East to the west).

So, is it:

• Ports and runways closed to any international arrivals, no matter of passport.
• US citizens only.
• A (business, etc) subset of visa travel only.
• No prearranged 'leave to stay' inward travel.
• Halting all in-process roads towards residency/naturalisation.
• Halting the start of any such application.
• Just being more aggressive with 'defaulting' and deporting anyone* already in the US who is already being stymied in their honest attempt to make defacto residency into a dejure one.
• Doing nothing new, just the same old shit and continuing the the half-hearted border health checks, but inciting people (for and against) with Bigly Words (and some televised scrawling on documents laid upon the Resolute Desk) that cause more internal unrest than 'solve' anything on the viral side of things.

* - who is in the usual demographics, that is.

[ChairmanPoo]

A US study amongst veterans has shown that the medicine that Trump has been advertising, hydroxychloroquine, is not helpful against Covid-19.
In fact, it even does more harm than good; amongst those treated with it, there were more deaths than amongst the control group that got regular treatment.
Researchers analyzed the medical data of 368 male veterans who had been treated, and either cured or died in various hospitals for veterans in the US.
Out of the group treated with HCQ, 28% died, versus 11% in the control group.

Impeach him now, for trying to actively get people killed by advertising lethal medication.

It wasnt a real control group. This was all retrospective. Odds are the ones who got HCQ were sicker to begin with.


But... there have been a couple of randomized trials that have shown little to no benefit. So.. yeah it kind of sucks

[nenjin]

I read early on that it's super hard on your heart.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Malaria medication is not exactly famous for its lack of severe side effects.

The fun part will be now that the Qanon cultists will declare a coverup and start drinking aquarium cleaner en mass to protect themselves from covid, except covid also isn't real and is a coverup by the deep state pedophiles but also a coverup by Trump to mass arrest and execute the deep state pedophiles.

Thus is the world.

[ChairmanPoo]

Well not superhard, at least in theory. But it can cause alterations in heart rythm.

On the other hand severe cases of covid are more frequent among people with CV disease, which might in turn have greater toxicity.... 🤷🏻‍♂️

This is why you need randomized trials really. Otherwise you'll just wonder whether thar shit works at all.

[nenjin]

Malaria medication is not exactly famous for its lack of severe side effects.

The fun part will be now that the Qanon cultists will declare a coverup and start drinking aquarium cleaner en mass to protect themselves from covid, except covid also isn't real and is a coverup by the deep state pedophiles but also a coverup by Trump to mass arrest and execute the deep state pedophiles.

Thus is the world.

The problem solves itself, no? Most people that have drank aquarium cleaner have died.

[Iduno]

Malaria medication is not exactly famous for its lack of severe side effects.

The fun part will be now that the Qanon cultists will declare a coverup and start drinking aquarium cleaner en mass to protect themselves from covid, except covid also isn't real and is a coverup by the deep state pedophiles but also a coverup by Trump to mass arrest and execute the deep state pedophiles.

Thus is the world.

The problem solves itself, no? Most people that have drank aquarium cleaner have died.

Sadly, it wasn't most. Most are too stupid to die.

[hector13]

Malaria medication is not exactly famous for its lack of severe side effects.

The fun part will be now that the Qanon cultists will declare a coverup and start drinking aquarium cleaner en mass to protect themselves from covid, except covid also isn't real and is a coverup by the deep state pedophiles but also a coverup by Trump to mass arrest and execute the deep state pedophiles.

Thus is the world.

The problem solves itself, no? Most people that have drank aquarium cleaner have died.

Sadly, it wasn't most. Most are too stupid to die.

Which is quite lucky, considering how stupid you have to be in the first place to do it.

[scriver]

A US study amongst veterans has shown that the medicine that Trump has been advertising, hydroxychloroquine, is not helpful against Covid-19.
In fact, it even does more harm than good; amongst those treated with it, there were more deaths than amongst the control group that got regular treatment.
Researchers analyzed the medical data of 368 male veterans who had been treated, and either cured or died in various hospitals for veterans in the US.
Out of the group treated with HCQ, 28% died, versus 11% in the control group.

Impeach him now, for trying to actively get people killed by advertising lethal medication.

Were the control group also veterans? Because while I'm not certain, my impression is that soldiers smoke a lot, which means veterans probably smoke a lot, which puts the group firmly into risk territory, right?