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[Untrustedlife]

Does the Dungeon Master noble do anything yet (I know the tags it has, I mean in actual game terms)? Dog training at least doesn't require one.

No, i dont think it has any affectual meaning towards the screen for domesticated familiarity either, since them being present for the mayor does imply they might have a use in later progression for the game on-site. Better off asking Toady what he plans to do with it or waiting within the next few versions - steam version to see what was added.

• I would also check if candidacy has any skill recommendations like animal trainer more preferable than others relating to role on the nobles screen. I can't find any references for them in legends mode if they do commit to similar taming trips on military strategist's behalf.

v28.~xx~'ish the dungeon master was a nessecity to tame exotic animals and had additional requirements of chains in their rooms, right now its just titular only (unless its bugged, like peace deals over artifacts that never really seemed to happen on 44.12)

They are just there for worldgen scheeming. I think. They have the espionage responsibility.

[therahedwig]

The changes.txt says explicitly that the new responsibilities don't do anything yet... but they get responsibility:espionage, so I guess they're going to be necessary for spy activity from your fort :p

[Untrustedlife]

Update, cannot sleep in fort or monestrary even after asking permission. Toady its a very annoying bug/feature/whatever it is plz fix. It reminds me of the old fort bug where you couldn't sleep in them (and i think you cant sleep in those anymore either)

[Knight Otu]

The changes.txt says explicitly that the new responsibilities don't do anything yet... but they get responsibility:espionage, so I guess they're going to be necessary for spy activity from your fort :p

*Most* don't do anything yet per the changes file. I haven't tested it yet, but ESPIONAGE may have a fortress mode function, and probably a world gen function.

   new position responsibilities -- most of these don't do anything yet, but they are linked to the new entity positions

[Untrustedlife]

The changes.txt says explicitly that the new responsibilities don't do anything yet... but they get responsibility:espionage, so I guess they're going to be necessary for spy activity from your fort :p

*Most* don't do anything yet per the changes file. I haven't tested it yet, but ESPIONAGE may have a fortress mode function, and probably a world gen function.

   new position responsibilities -- most of these don't do anything yet, but they are linked to the new entity positions

Pretty sure espionage does have some function in worldgen. Tarn has talked at length about this stuff.

[Bumber]

Code: (file changes.txt) [Select]

elf princess gets [RESPONSIBILITY:ESPIONAGE]
The elven princess is a spy!

[Shonai_Dweller]

Oh, my mistake, seems like there is a little variety in night creature adventurers. I finally got one, a demon of the night, with something on the appearance screen. "He is Muscular". Randomize will give me this or nothing at all. Yay options!

[Untrustedlife]

So you can go and get the powers of multiple secrets now [IT_REQUIRES:MORTAL] must be failing to check properly

[Mathel]

Hello.
I have found something weird in adventure mode, which seems to be a combination of several factors.

A) You can not see sneaking allies. (But they can see you, as evidenced by the fact that they can follow you.)
B) In adventure mode, the AI does not change sneak status.
C) When you start sneaking on a mount it is the mount that sneaks, not you.

This combines into mounts seeming to disappear, when one dismounts them while sneaking. They still exist, can mounted and lead and other creatures can attack them, but they can not be targetted by the player (with "A"ttack, or "l"ook). It can be fixed by player by either mounting them again and making them exit sneak mode, or fast traveling at least one map tile and exiting fast travel again.

I suggest making sneaking mounts exit sneak mode when a creature dismounts them.

[Untrustedlife]

Hello.
I have found something weird in adventure mode, which seems to be a combination of several factors.

A) You can not see sneaking allies. (But they can see you, as evidenced by the fact that they can follow you.)
B) In adventure mode, the AI does not change sneak status.
C) When you start sneaking on a mount it is the mount that sneaks, not you.

This combines into mounts seeming to disappear, when one dismounts them while sneaking. They still exist, can mounted and lead and other creatures can attack them, but they can not be targetted by the player (with "A"ttack, or "l"ook). It can be fixed by player by either mounting them again and making them exit sneak mode, or fast traveling at least one map tile and exiting fast travel again.

I suggest making sneaking mounts exit sneak mode when a creature dismounts them.

Have you considered putting alot of points into observer and see if that allows you to see them. I dunno if the allies disappearing whilst sneaking thing should count as a bug since they are, in fact, sneaking and that does, in fact, hide them. I imagine if you go into sneak then tab to an allie they can't see you.


Them being able to "see you" as evidenced by following is probably more a bug in the follow AI . Maybe it permanently follows no matter what status. But they should definitely stop sneaking when you do.

[Mathel]

Hello.
I have found something weird in adventure mode, which seems to be a combination of several factors.

A) You can not see sneaking allies. (But they can see you, as evidenced by the fact that they can follow you.)
B) In adventure mode, the AI does not change sneak status.
C) When you start sneaking on a mount it is the mount that sneaks, not you.

This combines into mounts seeming to disappear, when one dismounts them while sneaking. They still exist, can mounted and lead and other creatures can attack them, but they can not be targetted by the player (with "A"ttack, or "l"ook). It can be fixed by player by either mounting them again and making them exit sneak mode, or fast traveling at least one map tile and exiting fast travel again.

I suggest making sneaking mounts exit sneak mode when a creature dismounts them.

Have you considered putting alot of points into observer and see if that allows you to see them. I dunno if the allies disappearing whilst sneaking thing should count as a bug since they are, in fact, sneaking and that does, in fact, hide them. I imagine if you go into sneak then tab to an allie they can't see you.


Them being able to "see you" as evidenced by following is probably more a bug in the follow AI . Maybe it permanently follows no matter what status. But they should definitely stop sneaking when you do.

I have. It did not make a difference. Max level observer (Grand master) was still not able to see a sneaking horse.
But I may have been mistaken about AI toggling sneak mode. I was tracking a human and from time to time his tracks ended. Each time, he appeared some time later near where his tracks ended and started running again.

[Knight Otu]

An update regarding the Dark Fortress position crash - in addition to the already documented example of having variable and raw-defined positions in the same entity causing a crash, it appears that having any LAND_HOLDER positions at all in a dark fortress entity also causes a crash. If there isn't a bug report when I next get on Mantis, I'll create one then.

[neotemplar]

Some minor issues that may or may not be intended that I have noticed.
(All in fort mode)
1. Lots of the new undead showing up in my fort. Everyone of them acts friendly but is trying to steal artifacts. These guys have really bad disguises to the point that its probably a bug. Stuff like “grim slayer” etc. These guys are a light blue n the with umlat. Once they serve their prison sentence the get put in a cage and deposited in the animal stockpile, which may or may not be intended. I also had a bright red capital H come once. It routed through doors but went into a side room to specifically destroy a farmers workshop. I thought it was strange it didn’t break the doors. (Killed it before it could do anything else.)

2. Loyalty cascades still occur. Had one when a criminal beating turned deadly.

3. Lastly the elves keep trading me grown metal pedestals and other items.

[Rumrusher]

Some minor issues that may or may not be intended that I have noticed.
(All in fort mode)
1. Lots of the new undead showing up in my fort. Everyone of them acts friendly but is trying to steal artifacts. These guys have really bad disguises to the point that its probably a bug. Stuff like “grim slayer” etc. These guys are a light blue n the with umlat. Once they serve their prison sentence the get put in a cage and deposited in the animal stockpile, which may or may not be intended. I also had a bright red capital H come once. It routed through doors but went into a side room to specifically destroy a farmers workshop. I thought it was strange it didn’t break the doors. (Killed it before it could do anything else.)

2. Loyalty cascades still occur. Had one when a criminal beating turned deadly.

3. Lastly the elves keep trading me grown metal pedestals and other items.

Those cyan folks are resurrected beings which means historically they died and got revived and pretty much got free will. the kicker is they pretty much friendly outside of trying to steal stuff like the other folks that probably come to the site. the H folks are hybrid experiments of the necromancers... or young horses.

[PatrikLundell]

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3. Lastly the elves keep trading me grown metal pedestals and other items.

The odd "grown stuff" elven trade bug isn't new. It's been in the game for a long time, and should be on the bug tracker.