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[TankKit]

((I also negotiated and co-wrote the Offices Addendum with Kakaluncha in PMs, so it might be a good idea in general to make sure you have the vote of the person who's bill you're modifying if possible.))

[Rahx]

I'm only waiting for the chance to process the previous submission of developing sectors, orbital works, and research funding. Any corporate rep for the senate are going to be someone else, I'd rather make results than talk.

[Ardas]

The recess time came to a close, and the Speaker returned to the podium, while the gathered representatives reassembled.

"We have, at the moment, arrived with proposals that are vote-worthy. These options will be the ones for which you will be able to vote and will be held to be the official constitutional order of the land."

Options lit up on the main screens at the front and on the desk of each senator.

1. Name of the polity:
a)Concordian Confederacy
b)Concordian Union

2. Constitution of Concordia
a) The Independents' Constitution (or Zhang's)
b) The Corporatists' Constitution
c) The 3P Constitution

"You may vote now. The voting is done in accordance with the UN Charter regulation on democratic process and voting, including anonymity of the vote and freedom from any overt pressures and impressions." (Voting by PM only please)

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Ok, in the in the interest of untangling the OOC stuff from the IC, I can make a separate OOC thread, or we go with a Discord, which I am happy to make or for one of you to open up, just send invites and stuff afterwards.

[TankKit]

((NVM))

[flazeo25]

Chloe returns from lobby to chamber and reviews over her notes, looking at what appeals to her the most. She folds them away neatly and then hands over a paper to Speaker declaring her vote.

"Well I done for now" she muttered before resuming back to her seat.

[sprinkled chariot]

Are players still being accepted ?

[Ardas]

I am awaiting for one of the players to respond, since they appear to be absent, but yes, I am willing to accept new players now - they can start as either businessmen or politicians, but they will enter the parliament as reps and not full-fledged senators, unless they get party endorsement and/or get themselves elected.

[Glass]

Yeah, you guys can replace me. Sorry about all this. .-.

[Ardas]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13ggO1HcSyWiMB6IKEOD2RTkQ0iNDh0l5huGchFo3Ups/edit?usp=sharing

This is the game document for the government and for politics. Individual details will be available to each player in subsequent PMs.

Number of senators for each party is more of a placeholder than anything, but the percentages are more or less representative of current level of support. I will roll for Independents and their selection of the proposals but I will try not to overturn player majorities.

[sprinkled chariot]

Name: John Draigo
Physical description: shaved head athletic  middle aged man with robotic  metal leg, right eye is replaced with artificial red ocular
Bio: Having spent majority of his life in military intellegence, John had to retire after losing leg and right eye  during boarding action against space pirates going not as planned , following that he used his connections and skills to make rather successful business in  private security sector  mostly  hiring retired military specialists
Assets: Easy solutions ( business name)
business description:  company officially focusing on providing corporate property/ corporate data theft prevention / supressing hostile wild life on newly colonized worlds, but often more then willing to perform more shady things for the goverment, if paid enough
Allegiance: (currently none ).
Skills: subterfuge

[hector13]

Arthur stands and cleared his throat.

“We at the Peace and Prosperity Party have been in some late night talks with the Corporatists, and have the following to put forward.”

1. The creation of a federal system, located in Landing Point, which shall regulate the states, but these states will retain the autonomy to set their own laws in addition to those set in the UN Charter.

2. The creation of a primary assembly, the Senate, which will be composed of all present parties, which will work to solve issues

3.The establishment of the UN Charter as the official law. This law will set the foundation upon which we base all future laws. All states will be granted the right of adding local laws, to be abided by in those states. These local laws may not go against the letter or spirit of the UN Charter, but the states may appeal to the Office of Law, as set out later in this motion, to make their case for any particular law that will apply to their state if it is deemed to go against the letter or spirit of the UN Charter.

4.Following Point 1, we advocate for the Senate - in addition to Senators that bring forward, discuss and vote on motions - to retain a representative from each state, alongside the Senators. Representatives have the same rights as Senators in the Senate. The Senate will be the body to regulate taxes laws, banks, commerce...

5. Following Point 4, we also advocate for the creation of an international force, which would only answer to the Senate. This force would be tasked with aiding states during Middle or Higher issues.

6. The creation of the Office system which divides control of certain matters between the Senators best suited to dealing with them as described within this document.

Spoiler: The Offices Addendum (click to show/hide)

First is the Office of Law. The Senators holding power in the Office of Law have complete control over law reforms. They work in order to create a fair and just law. In case of a situation in which the law is unclear, the Office of Law will debate until a consensus is reached.

They also represent the judicial branch of the government in the Senate, and must have no known or commonly suspected criminal record, as well as holding a law degree. Finally, they have the power to judge a fellow Senator that has broken the law accordingly when the time comes. They are, however, also to be held accountable for any actions that the wider Senate deem to be against the spirit of the law and/or the good of the nation as a whole, and a majority vote may remove any power-abusing Senator from their office. When any position is empty, the Senate decides who to elect to the position by majority vote of those Senators who fill the requirements. If a chosen Senator refuses, a different Senator shall be chosen. This method also applies to all other offices.

Next is the Office of Finances. The Senators that hold this Office must also have no known or commonly suspected criminal record, as well as having a degree in economics, and be commonly deemed an honest person by the wider Senate before they can be elected to the Office by a majority vote. They do not have direct power over how the nation's finances are to be spent, though they are in charge of making sure taxes are paid in cooperation with the Office of Security, but they are also tasked with informing the lower levels of the main government on how much money is being directed to them and how it is to be spent.

They are also tasked with personally making sure that important documents containing information about the nations budget are accurate, and that no money is going missing through unknown and/or insidious means. This would be done through strict documentation of income and outcome.

If any of the Senators were to be suspected of corruption, they would be put under investigation. If said investigation were to reveal corruption, they would be subject to a majority vote to decide on whether or not they should be removed from office.

Third is the Office of Security, which would be the union of two different offices, The Office of the Army, and the Office of the Fleet.

 The Senators of the Office of the Army must have a military and/or police related past and be knowledgeable on matters of Security. The Senators holding this position would be in charge of enacting Senatorial decrees based around military or police based reforms, as well as ensuring the efficient training of international forces.

The Office of the Fleet will consist of several Senator who are engineers, have ship-building companies or are high ranking members of the military. They would receive funding from the wider Senate and be tasked with creating the ships asked for by the Senate while also improving ship construction costs and efficiency. If the economy is currently suffering a period of economic depression, the Senate has the power to halt any designs or ships currently under construction until the economic situation is deemed stable enough for ship construction to continue.

In the case of a violent emergency scenario or military conflict, the Senators holding positions in the Office of Security may choose to enact Emergency Marshal status, giving up all Senatorial powers in exchange for the necessary resources to solve the situation. These Senators are to be considered automatically stripped of this status once the issue has been dealt with, a wider general response has been gathered together to deal with the issue, or the Senate decides that resources are being wasted unnecessarily.

If any Senators on the Office of Security are deemed to be abusing their powers in any way by the wider Senate, they can be voted out of the Office by a majority vote and, if said majority vote is successful, judged by the Office of Law.

Finally, the Office of Business. The Senators holding this position are in charge of representing the wider interests of the many businesses present in the Concordian Union, and must be elected to it by majority vote. The Senators holding this office must be large business owners. The Senators holding this position are in charge of representing and enforcing guidelines and regulations on businesses, and must also represent the economic interests of these businesses as a whole and impartially, showing no favouritism to their own business or those of their close political allies. If any Senator is interested in any business programs they have in mind, they must present the Senators holding this position with their requests, proposals and motions for the Senate. If any Senator holding this Office is found guilty of failing to represent the interests of their fellow businesses, they may be voted out of office by a majority vote and a new vote shall be held to replace them.

7. We propose our planet to be named the "Concordian Union". Any alternative proposal will be taken into consideration.

[Ardas]

The Speaker rose to the central podium again, with a rather unhappy face.

"While this proposal has entered late into the voting, it does appear to be an amended version of the previous constitutions. Given that you arranged it with Corpoatists, am I to assume that votes for your respective proposals are to be merged?"

He looked around, while the chamber filled with low murmur.

"This is highly irregular and will have to be considered an amendment to the constitutional proposal of the Corporatist party. Any votes cast so far for their option will also be treated as accepting this version, unless an objection is raised and filed with me. Voting shall be concluded soon, so please consider your choices carefully."

He looked at Arthur, somewhat sternly. "And please, no further amendments and options until the vote is concluded. We have deviated from procedures already, let's not make this into a habit."

[hector13]

Arthur nods at the Speaker, shrugs slightly, and offers a wry smile to his colleagues.

[Ardas]

"Voting has now concluded." The speaker announced. "The results are as follows - The state shall be henceforth known as Concordian Union, and its government shall be a federal system with a supreme Senate, as postulated by the Corporatist Party's constitutional proposal, including amendments by Peace and Prosperity Party."

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Constitution of Concordian Union:

1. Concordian Union, being a free association of its constituent states and autonomous units, is a federal state with Capital in Landing Point.
2. The Union is guided by the Principles of the UN Charter, which are now held to be the foundation of all future and existing law and are held to be law in themselves where such prescriptions exist.
2.1 All states and autonomous bodies within the Union will retain their legislative and executive functions, including creation of laws that are to be binding on state level.
2.2 State laws may not contravene federal legislation, or be in conflict with the letter or the spirit of the UN Charter. Any such conflicts are to be appealed to the Office of Law of the Senate for legality and enforcement.
2.3 All freedoms of the citizens of the Union will be based on the UN Charter.
3. The Union's chief body will be The Senate, composed of elected representatives from respective states and autonomous bodies.
3.1 The representatives, hence known as Senators, are to be elected in free and impartial manner, as organised by the electoral committees of each state and autonomous body and in line with the UN Charter, or as legislated by the Senate. Their terms will be established in line with need and number of Senators as required by the Senate.
3.2 The Senate will be the supreme executor of the will of its citizens, being the chief organ of legislation and and executive, as well as judiciary power. The Senate may appoint and invest these powers as its sees fit, while retaining the ultimate right over these powers to dispose of them and retain them as necessary.
3.3 The Senate will invest its powers in officially established Offices, which will form permanent executive committees, and group senators of appropriate talents and skill to manage affairs assigned to each Office. Offices are described in the Offices Addendum,
4. The Senate will have the right to raise and retain such forces as it sees necessary, to enforce its laws and to preserve the integrity of the State, and to aid in resolution of any issues on federal or state level.
4.1. Said forces will be made up of units of mixed origin and with no sole source of allegiance other than the Senate.


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The constitution is up, the player sheets will follow soon, but you are free to start debating things like number of people in the senate and potential electoral bits and so on. don't forget the budget!

[Kakaluncha]

Angleia realises that she has held her breath, and releases a soft sigh. She opens her hands, knuckles white from the strength of the grip.

"Gentlemen, I'm proud of the work we have achieved today. Future generations will rejoice under this constitution. Sadly, as much as I'd like to celebrate, we have many burdens upon us. I believe that before working through the details of our government, we should address the matter of the budget. Does anyone have something against addressing the budget issue?"