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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #210 on: March 13, 2020, 10:34:32 am »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(0) Spell: Hypnotic Eye :
(2) Pale Crow : Jerick, TricMagic
(0) Iron Waters :
(1) Infestor Worms : Rockeater
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(2) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(1) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater
(1) Walking Corpse : Kashyyk
(0) Whisperer :
(2) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Rockeater, Jerick
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Damnit people, this is why I said to keep the truce. Because now everyone's ganging up on the cats.
Also, don't forget to contact your local Eldritch Being(s), so that they can help with our mission to destroy the universe.

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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #211 on: March 13, 2020, 02:29:30 pm »


Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(0) Spell: Hypnotic Eye :
(2) Pale Crow : Jerick, TricMagic
(0) Iron Waters :
(2) Infestor Worms : Rockeater, Detoxicated
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(3) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(1) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater
(1) Walking Corpse : Kashyyk
(0) Whisperer :
(2) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Rockeater, Jerick

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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #212 on: March 13, 2020, 02:52:35 pm »

I'm guessing Rockeater meant to remove their name from RotSE.

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(0) Spell: Hypnotic Eye :
(2) Pale Crow : Jerick, TricMagic
(0) Iron Waters :
(2) Infestor Worms : Rockeater, Detoxicated
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(3) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(2) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(2) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick
(1) Children of Desire : Kashyyk

Also, have another design, cos too many options is not a thing. It is very much an active infiltration design.

Quote from: Consorts of Desire
As we all know, Good is boring and unfun, prohibiting such enjoyable activity as overindulgence in fine food & drink, exquisite clothing & artwork, pleasurable company, the suffering of others, and depraved acts of self-gratification. To protect these cornerstones of Evil enjoyment and thus entice those who can appreciate the finer things in life, a combination of Evil and alchemical concoctions provides the chosen with a voice as sweet as honey, a body as flawless as the Dolgoth crown jewels, and the ability to both read a person's desires and then magically enhance the sensations they feel. When a Consort of Desire is present, silk never felt smoother, Bootlegger's never tasted more delicious and the prick of a knife never felt so delightfully sharp. Once the Consort of Desire has left, everything will feel grey and lifeless until they return.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 05:06:33 pm by Kashyyk »
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #213 on: March 13, 2020, 03:48:31 pm »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(2) Pale Crow : Jerick, TricMagic
(0) Iron Waters :
(2) Infestor Worms : Rockeater, Detoxicated
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(3) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(2) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(2) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick
(1) Children of Desire : Kashyyk

Not so sure about that...

For my vote, it would be Warcaster's Keep, and either the Pale Crow or Hypnotic Eye. Either one will be useful against the incorporeal for subversion. And subverting others/disrupting concentration needed for spells. The fact it comes with an upgraded spellcaster would also improve it's effectiveness. Along with Magic Missile being boosted in power when cast by Warcasters.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #214 on: March 13, 2020, 06:21:02 pm »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(2) Pale Crow : Jerick, TricMagic
(0) Iron Waters :
(2) Infestor Worms : Rockeater, Detoxicated
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(4) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(3) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk, DGR
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(2) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick,
(1) Children of Desire : Kashyyk
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #215 on: March 13, 2020, 07:26:44 pm »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(3) Pale Crow : Jerick, TricMagic, Doomblade
(0) Iron Waters :
(2) Infestor Worms : Rockeater, Detoxicated
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(3) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk, DGR
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(1) Children of Desire : Kashyyk
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #216 on: March 13, 2020, 09:48:24 pm »

I Change my Vote to easen Our decision and because i Like the antispyness of the raven Design.
Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(4) Pale Crow : Jerick, TricMagic, Doomblade, Detoxicated
(0) Iron Waters :
(1) Infestor Worms : Rockeater,
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(3) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk, DGR
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(1) Children of Desire : Kashyyk
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #217 on: March 13, 2020, 10:25:13 pm »

The crows are revision-worthy, we shouldn't be using a design on them when we have a two design deficit for some unknown reason not related to the failure of a double effort design at all, no way.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #218 on: March 14, 2020, 09:26:44 am »

Quote from: NUKE on Discord
You know what, I’m feeling a bit sorry for yous, and I’d like it if there was less arguing and more discussing, so I’ll give you this:
Boosting intelligence and giving the narrow ability to damage intangible beings, to crows which have been well-developed already, would be a Normal revision.

By word of God, using a design on Pale Crows is overkill, but using a revision on them is perfectly acceptable and something I will be voting for. Please can Jerick, TricMagic, Doomblade and Detoxicated reconsider?
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« Reply #219 on: March 14, 2020, 09:36:54 am »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(3) Pale Crow : Jerick, Doomblade, Detoxicated
(0) Iron Waters :
(1) Infestor Worms : Rockeater,
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
(2) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick, MoP
(3) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk, DGR
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(2) Children of Desire : Kashyyk, TricMagic

By word of God, it is so.

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As an edit, my vote to CoD. Alchemical modification. I meanwhile am just going to stay off discord for a while to cool down. Feeling off today, and I know what happened the last times I was like this. Sorry NUKE.



Spell: Evil Wind

The Evil Wind creates a magical wisp-like light which flows forward to spread over an area, or can be concentrated. Those afflicted experience temporary blindness, shortness of breath, and spasms. Additional exposure can cause deafness, blindness, silence, and paralysis. If untreated, unconsciousness and death will occur, in that order. And the effect is increased as the user's skill grows. It also does not effect evil-aligned beings, being targeted towards good.

The general trend is that the spell poisons the target, affecting the body's functions. The strength of the caster, the number casting it, and how concentrated/dispersed the spell is affects how quickly later symptoms occur. Cast on a single target, a concentrated blast is enough to skip straight to paralysis, followed by shutdown of the body.

In simplest terms, it's a status effect spell focused on effects over time. The greater the dose, the more effective it is. In battle, multiple casting it over the area will definitely cause issues to the enemy, as the first-stage effects are no joke to a warrior in the midst of combat. And as combat continues as they fight in it, the issues will only compound themselves over time.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #220 on: March 14, 2020, 04:53:33 pm »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(3) Pale Crow : Jerick, Doomblade, Detoxicated
(0) Iron Waters :
(1) Infestor Worms : Rockeater,
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
(1) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick
(3) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk, DGR
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(3) Children of Desire : Kashyyk, TricMagic, MoP

Jerick, Doom, Detoc, the GM was kind enough to let us know in Discord, after like two days of "debate" that the Pale Crows would be a Normal revision written as-is, so we're going to put them off this phase. Kindly reevaluate the available options and vote for the goodest ones plz.

Swapped Skullswarm to Children of Desire since the current plan for the revisions are Pale Crows (+Combat Lanes, +Influence Lanes) and better cultist gear (++Combat Lanes), and with the Warcaster's Keep (+Combat Lanes, +Influence Lanes), we get a good balance with CoD (++Influence Lanes).


That said, I do think we need more help in the combat lanes than influence, but CoD fits right in with the Demon Mafia aesthetic a few of us have wanted since Bootleggers turned out well.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #221 on: March 14, 2020, 05:06:17 pm »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(3) Pale Crow : Jerick, Doomblade, Detoxicated
(0) Iron Waters :
(1) Infestor Worms : Rockeater,
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
(1) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick
(3) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk, DGR
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(3) Consorts of Desire : Kashyyk, TricMagic, MoP

Just as an FYI, I've renamed CoD to avoid an unfortunate implication that was pointed out to me on discord. We may be Demons, but this is still a PG forum.
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« Reply #222 on: March 14, 2020, 05:08:10 pm »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(3) Pale Crow : Jerick, Doomblade, Detoxicated
(0) Iron Waters :
(1) Infestor Worms : Rockeater,
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
(1) Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles : Jerick
(2) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(4) Consorts of Desire : Kashyyk, TricMagic, MoP, DGR
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #223 on: March 15, 2020, 09:54:13 am »

Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(2) Pale Crow : Doomblade, Detoxicated
(0) Iron Waters :
(2) Infestor Worms : Rockeater, Jerick
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
() Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles :
(2) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(4) Consorts of Desire : Kashyyk, TricMagic, MoP, DGR

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Jerick, Doom, Detoc, the GM was kind enough to let us know in Discord, after like two days of "debate" that the Pale Crows would be a Normal revision written as-is, so we're going to put them off this phase. Kindly reevaluate the available options and vote for the goodest ones plz.

Swapped Skullswarm to Children of Desire since the current plan for the revisions are Pale Crows (+Combat Lanes, +Influence Lanes) and better cultist gear (++Combat Lanes), and with the Warcaster's Keep (+Combat Lanes, +Influence Lanes), we get a good balance with CoD (++Influence Lanes).


That said, I do think we need more help in the combat lanes than influence, but CoD fits right in with the Demon Mafia aesthetic a few of us have wanted since Bootleggers turned out well.
Apologies, IRL stuff has kept me rather occupied these last few days so I haven't been online much. Also I noticed I had voted for three things when I meant to vote for two. Well time to fix that.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 4
« Reply #224 on: March 15, 2020, 11:46:35 am »


Quote from: Vote Magoc
(0) Puppeteer class spirit :
(1) Spell: Hypnotic Eye : TricMagic
(1) Pale Crow : Doomblade,
(0) Iron Waters :
(2) Infestor Worms : Rockeater, Jerick
(0) Unit: Magoc's Mutts :
(5) Infrastructure: Warcaster's Keep : TricMagic, MoP, detoxicated, DGR, Doomblade
() Spell/Unit?: Skullswarm Beetles :
(2) Spell: Runes of Ruin : Rockeater, Kashyyk
(0) Walking Corpse :
(0) Whisperer :
(3) Runes of the Soul Eater : Kashyyk, Jerick, Doomblade
(5) Consorts of Desire : Kashyyk, TricMagic, MoP, DGR, Detoxicated
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