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Author Topic: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Strategy Phase 10  (Read 32374 times)

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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #120 on: November 28, 2019, 03:41:28 pm »

Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (4): Failbird, Taricus, Jilladilla, AC
Artificers (1): m1895
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): Twinwolf
Virtuous Vermin (2): Failbird, Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (2): Powder Miner, m1895
Giantslayer (1): C2M
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (4): C2M, Twinwolf, AC, Jilladilla
The Shadow Walkers fall afoul of the exact same objections I had about the Muranids — not only may black ops of this variety simply not be appropriate for Heliel, but I don’t think that this is a great mechanism simply for establishing basic levels of influence.
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #121 on: November 28, 2019, 04:06:42 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (4): Failbird, Taricus, Jilladilla, AC
Artificers (1): m1895
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): Twinwolf
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (2): Powder Miner, m1895
Giantslayer (1): C2M
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (4): C2M, Twinwolf, AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (1): Failbird
While I do get what you're saying, the entire, singular flaw of the Bright Shadows is that we don't have any way to act on all the information we gather. We made espionage specialists, yet we're unwilling to use said information for Cloak and Dagger tactics, so we're left with specialists who could do something but instead just aren't being properly used.

That being said, an alternative. One that can gain us influence and was mysteriously left off the vote box until now.
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #122 on: November 28, 2019, 04:10:37 pm »
But that’s not really even true at all, we were explicitly told in the previous report that Bright Shadows were aiding the efforts of our missionaries. It’s not the Bright Shadows aren’t having any effect, it’s that we lack the basic influence mechanism to actually assist in the first place — the idea that Bright Shadows are going unused is actually a misconception.
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #123 on: November 28, 2019, 04:25:44 pm »

Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (4): Failbird, Taricus, Jilladilla, AC
Artificers (1): m1895
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (2): Twinwolf, C2M
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (2): Powder Miner, m1895
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (3): Twinwolf, AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (2): Failbird, C2M
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #124 on: November 28, 2019, 04:57:43 pm »
Quote from: Powder Miner on November 28, 2019, 04:10:37 pm
But that’s not really even true at all, we were explicitly told in the previous report that Bright Shadows were aiding the efforts of our missionaries. It’s not the Bright Shadows aren’t having any effect, it’s that we lack the basic influence mechanism to actually assist in the first place — the idea that Bright Shadows are going unused is actually a misconception.

I believe that Failbird is referring to the following, which explicitly states that we aren't able to make full use of the gathered information:

Quote from: NUKE9.13 on November 26, 2019, 01:23:27 pm
The Lawless Capital is rife with things people would rather others not know about, and our Bright Shadows served us well as information gatherers. Unfortunately, while we learned some juicy secrets, we have no means of exploiting them, and our regular missionary & medic efforts failed to convert substantial numbers.
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #125 on: November 28, 2019, 06:46:17 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (4): Failbird, Taricus, Jilladilla, AC
Artificers (1): m1895
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (2): Twinwolf, C2M
Virtuous Vermin (0):
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (3): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (3): Twinwolf, AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (2): Failbird, C2M
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #126 on: November 29, 2019, 02:40:19 pm »

Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (4): Failbird, Taricus, Jilladilla, AC
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (2): Twinwolf, C2M
Virtuous Vermin (0):
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (3): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (3): Twinwolf, AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (3): Failbird, C2M, m1895
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #127 on: November 29, 2019, 03:37:13 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (5): Failbird, Taricus, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (0):
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (3): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (2): AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (4): Failbird, C2M, m1895, Twinwolf
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #128 on: November 29, 2019, 07:27:36 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (6): Failbird, Taricus, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf, 10ebbor10
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (0):
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (4): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus, 10ebbor10
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (2): AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (4): Failbird, C2M, m1895, Twinwolf
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Taricus

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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #129 on: November 29, 2019, 07:33:11 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (5): Failbird, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf, 10ebbor10
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (4): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus, 10ebbor10
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (2): AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (4): Failbird, C2M, m1895, Twinwolf
« Last Edit: November 29, 2019, 07:35:32 pm by Taricus »
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #130 on: November 29, 2019, 08:00:40 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (6): Failbird, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf, 10ebbor10, Strider
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (4): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus, 10ebbor10
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (2): AC, Jilladilla
Healing Springs (5): Failbird, C2M, m1895, Twinwolf, Strider
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Within that world, she was God. But here, outside of it, her name was Yoake o-Shiri. That was unimportant. She was a Godslayer. That too was unimportant. But what was important, was that she had a motherfucking boat.
And by God, was she going to use it.

"But deceleration is for pansies. We're headed for the stars. Bye, Burnsie. Bye, Mission Control. Bye, Sol. See you at heat death" -Blindsight

Taricus

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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #131 on: November 29, 2019, 08:57:30 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (6): Failbird, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf, 10ebbor10, Strider
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (3): Powder Miner, m1895, 10ebbor10
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (3): AC, Jilladilla, Taricus
Healing Springs (5): Failbird, C2M, m1895, Twinwolf, Strider
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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #132 on: November 29, 2019, 08:59:31 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (6): Failbird, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf, 10ebbor10, Strider
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (4): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus, 10ebbor10
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (3): AC, Jilladilla, Twinwolf
Healing Springs (4): Failbird, C2M, m1895, Strider
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Quote from: IamanElfCollaborator on December 08, 2015, 05:16:08 pm
Of course, Twin is neither man nor woman but an unholy eldritch abomination like every other Bay12er. The difference is they hide it better.
Quote from: Caellath on IRC
<Caellath>: Twinwolf, your thirst for blood has been noted.

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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #133 on: November 29, 2019, 09:01:08 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (6): Failbird, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf, 10ebbor10, Strider
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (4): Powder Miner, m1895, Taricus, 10ebbor10
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (5): AC, Jilladilla, Taricus, Twinwolf, Strider
Healing Springs (3): Failbird, C2M, m1895
« Last Edit: November 29, 2019, 09:04:36 pm by Strider03 »
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Quote from: Empiricist on May 14, 2017, 06:47:19 am
Within that world, she was God. But here, outside of it, her name was Yoake o-Shiri. That was unimportant. She was a Godslayer. That too was unimportant. But what was important, was that she had a motherfucking boat.
And by God, was she going to use it.

"But deceleration is for pansies. We're headed for the stars. Bye, Burnsie. Bye, Mission Control. Bye, Sol. See you at heat death" -Blindsight

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Re: Angel Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 2
« Reply #134 on: November 29, 2019, 09:03:48 pm »
Quote from: Time for votebox
Sunlight Warriors
Holy Blade Winged Falcon
Monks of Minos (6): Failbird, Jilladilla, AC, Twinwolf, 10ebbor10, Strider
Artificers
The Slayer
Paladins of Heliel (1): C2M
Virtuous Vermin (1): Taricus
Valorous Defiance
Goodwood Bows
Song of Soothing (3): Powder Miner, m1895, 10ebbor10
Giantslayer
Microcherubs
Shadow Walkers (5): AC, Jilladilla, Twinwolf, Strider, Taricus
Healing Springs (3): Failbird, C2M, m1895
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