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[EuchreJack]

I guess its the good ole' smashy smashy?

I dunno why everyone says the makeshift crowbar doesn't work: I guess they're just not using them properly.

[Aseaheru]

Well, then I guess makeshift lockpicks are the way to go now.

Those require a proper hacksaw to make now.

Both forms? I know they made making them out of scrap metal take one, but there was the wire-based recipe still, they do something strange again?

[IonMatrix]

I guess its the good ole' smashy smashy?

I dunno why everyone says the makeshift crowbar doesn't work: I guess they're just not using them properly.

Uhh...care to elaborate?

[pisskop]

its a joke.

I said that i guess bashing down a door is the only way to open on now.
He implied that the proper use of the crowbar is to bash down a door.

[IonMatrix]

Oh.Ohhhhhhhhh.

Now I feel like an idiot.

[King Zultan]

Since the makeshift crowbar sucks now I guess the best starting weapon you can make from shit found in the starting shelter is the nail board, but then again I almost always started with the nail board.

[scriver]

Soon it will require a sledgehammer to make

[Random_Dragon]

From a gameplay perspective it seems kinda pointless anyway, there's rarely a time when you literally can't afford to smash in a window. If you have hordes mode on maybe, but the air vibrations from merely existing for long enough will attract a horde eventually anyway, so no sense worrying over a little noise even then. They're likely already spawning by the time you have to consider breaking a window.

[scriver]

Uhm

It's rude to break windows

[notquitethere]

Starting in a prison, I was unable to smash or pry my way out, I had to use lock picks on main doors. Took a lot of attempts, but luckily chainwire fence gives a lot of spare wire for them.

[Random_Dragon]

Hmm. Actually yeah, do you need a proper hacksaw for the wire variant?

[notquitethere]

I don't recall needing one. I definitely had some kind of tool  from the prison workshop. I'll check next time I boot up.

[Random_Dragon]

Double-checked, seems the wire option needs a hammer or pliers instead, so that's nice at least. I can still see it being very RNG-dependant, but if there's a workshop that spawns items, and a reasonable chance you won't spawn stuck in a locked cell, then I guess that makes it better than playing the mi-go scenario at least.

[Erk]

Iirc, and I may not, the new prison was designed to always have the things for making lockpicks spawn somewhere.

[Eschar]

From a gameplay perspective it seems kinda pointless anyway, there's rarely a time when you literally can't afford to smash in a window.

Maybe, hypothetically, someone wants to be able to leave a few extra turns of zombies hitting stuff before they can get in. Pry a door, close the door, close curtains, and the inevitable entry of zombies will be delayed quite helpfully. Smash a window, and it's not going to delay them much, and if you don't want injuries from the broken frame and so clean it, it's not going to scrape up zombies either.