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[EuchreJack]

from my experience playing a naked and afraid on the woods scenario. Fire lasts longer if your churn lots of fuel on it, in addition to the Fire Ring the Makeshift Shelter (and i guess the leaning tree shelter too) seem to help protect the ring from the rain when built right next to it. i survived my nights naked by gathering a lot of long sticks and dumping them on the fire so they would keep burning to the next day while keeping the temperature stable enough to sleep without dying from cold.

also now that someone mentioned having his survivors in the recycle bin. has someone tried living out of a garbage container? it seems we dont have many large containers as shelter in the game. there's some craftables like the pillow fort or the cardboard box but no freighter containers or giant logs of wood (this is new england of course but imagine the log of a giant sequoia being used as hideout).

New England being a traditional port area should have lots of freighter containers.  I think they cut down all the big trees for industry, so I don't think there are very many that can hollowed be out as housing.  I'm not sure the game fully utilizes plastic tarps in the same way that people do in real life. Nevermind, Tarp shelters are a thing, although they are rarer than I've seen in real life.

Found a possible bug: Can't clean filthy wearable items such as hip flask.  Only tested with washboard so far, so dunno if scrub brush will clean.

[Soadreqm]

The second is the unloading of containers. Unless I'm misremembering, (U)nloading should give you the option to store the liquid somewhere else, or dump it, or stop unloading, right? For some reason, it automatically dumps it on the ground. I have a an empty container ready but it just empties it on the floor. Any ideas?

Known bug.
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/38206
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/39011

Can't clean filthy wearable items such as hip flask.  Only tested with washboard so far, so dunno if scrub brush will clean.

Use a rag, or a sponge if you want to be fancy.

[EuchreJack]

Thanks, I had just been successful with a scrub brush.  I didn't realize a rag would work.

[AzyWng]

A washing kit (washboard + scrub brush) will also work on, well, just about anything.

[Micro102]

Do random NPCs still carry around suicidal weapons like flamethrowers or explosives? I love the idea but don't need to wake up to all my shit burning down one day.

EDIT: Also, why can't I use a battery compartment mod on my makeshift arc welder? Works on my smartphone. It sucks that I need to find medium batteries and constantly swap them to mass produce hydrochloric acid.

EDIT: EDIT: I got a shotgun with a 0/1 grip slot. I have made a grip mod that says "location: grip" and that it is compatible with shotguns. When I activate the grip to add it to the shotgun, it says there are no slots for this mod. Help. I managed to get the brass catcher on and the slot for that filled up.

[duckman]

Do random NPCs still carry around suicidal weapons like flamethrowers or explosives? I love the idea but don't need to wake up to all my shit burning down one day.

EDIT: Also, why can't I use a battery compartment mod on my makeshift arc welder? Works on my smartphone. It sucks that I need to find medium batteries and constantly swap them to mass produce hydrochloric acid.

EDIT: EDIT: I got a shotgun with a 0/1 grip slot. I have made a grip mod that says "location: grip" and that it is compatible with shotguns. When I activate the grip to add it to the shotgun, it says there are no slots for this mod. Help. I managed to get the brass catcher on and the slot for that filled up.

A lot of guns don't actually have slots for functional mods, they have a slot for a mounting point to be added instead. So you put in a mod that allows the gun to take mods, which makes gun modding about as bootleg as mounting a laser sight onto a flintlock is irl.

[Micro102]

Do random NPCs still carry around suicidal weapons like flamethrowers or explosives? I love the idea but don't need to wake up to all my shit burning down one day.

EDIT: Also, why can't I use a battery compartment mod on my makeshift arc welder? Works on my smartphone. It sucks that I need to find medium batteries and constantly swap them to mass produce hydrochloric acid.

EDIT: EDIT: I got a shotgun with a 0/1 grip slot. I have made a grip mod that says "location: grip" and that it is compatible with shotguns. When I activate the grip to add it to the shotgun, it says there are no slots for this mod. Help. I managed to get the brass catcher on and the slot for that filled up.

A lot of guns don't actually have slots for functional mods, they have a slot for a mounting point to be added instead. So you put in a mod that allows the gun to take mods, which makes gun modding about as bootleg as mounting a laser sight onto a flintlock is irl.

That seems to be it. Thanks.

[forsaken1111]

Do random NPCs still carry around suicidal weapons like flamethrowers or explosives? I love the idea but don't need to wake up to all my shit burning down one day.

EDIT: Also, why can't I use a battery compartment mod on my makeshift arc welder? Works on my smartphone. It sucks that I need to find medium batteries and constantly swap them to mass produce hydrochloric acid.

EDIT: EDIT: I got a shotgun with a 0/1 grip slot. I have made a grip mod that says "location: grip" and that it is compatible with shotguns. When I activate the grip to add it to the shotgun, it says there are no slots for this mod. Help. I managed to get the brass catcher on and the slot for that filled up.

A lot of guns don't actually have slots for functional mods, they have a slot for a mounting point to be added instead. So you put in a mod that allows the gun to take mods, which makes gun modding about as bootleg as mounting a laser sight onto a flintlock is irl.

Wow, that is some weird unintuitive game design right there. What is the thinking behind adding a mod so you can add a mod?

[Iceblaster]

'Realism' except this time it's a case of uh
'realism because its realistic' and not because it'd add anything really interesting or wahtever to consider

[Aseaheru]

 It would be nice if they did it fer bayonets instead of, yaknow, underbarrel mods.

 Or for that matter, being consistent.

[MrRoboto75]

By that logic I should be able to use duct tape as the mounting point for my gun mods.

[anothersimulacrum]

You can read the reasoning behind that in the relevant PR. The slots extensions should have different names than the locations they provide (e.g. you need to install a mod on the grip mount slot to install grip mods), but I agree that certainly seems like an easy cause for confusion.

If you think you have a more clear name or other way to improve the clarity of these, please either open an issue or a PR suggesting it.

[Salmeuk]

Do random NPCs still carry around suicidal weapons like flamethrowers or explosives? I love the idea but don't need to wake up to all my shit burning down one day.

EDIT: Also, why can't I use a battery compartment mod on my makeshift arc welder? Works on my smartphone. It sucks that I need to find medium batteries and constantly swap them to mass produce hydrochloric acid.

EDIT: EDIT: I got a shotgun with a 0/1 grip slot. I have made a grip mod that says "location: grip" and that it is compatible with shotguns. When I activate the grip to add it to the shotgun, it says there are no slots for this mod. Help. I managed to get the brass catcher on and the slot for that filled up.

A lot of guns don't actually have slots for functional mods, they have a slot for a mounting point to be added instead. So you put in a mod that allows the gun to take mods, which makes gun modding about as bootleg as mounting a laser sight onto a flintlock is irl.

Wow, that is some weird unintuitive game design right there. What is the thinking behind adding a mod so you can add a mod?

If you ever played Escape from Tarkov you would probably explode. 

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Cataclysm: DDA is a fairly accurate depiction of the post-apocalypse, which means it's a highly complex inventory simulator. Just like if you were stuck surviving with random shit in the world, you end up collecting not just immediately useful items but things that MAY be useful later on, whether through modification or combination. There is a great specificity to DDA that should be commended.

However, the game lacks a procedurality that would make this kind of thing fun. As a player, if you want to pursue an interesting strategy or create some contraption, someone else must have thought of that idea and already added it into the game. Modding exists, sure, and I think you can fix a lot of issues that way. However, that won't fix the underlying issue I experience when playing. There is a huge, complex, evolving list of creative recipes that must be swam through in order to simply survive. In addition, there are multiple places to access these recipes or construction or action, and the organization of these menus is sometimes vague. Each recipe brings with it the writer's misconceptions and poor choice of tone. Sometimes, things that are highly 'unrealistic' are present, breaking tone, and other times, there is an unfun level of realistic detail that often leads to busywork. Gee, this apocalypse is so tough to survive, I must press this combination of keys 50 times in the next 3 minutes and then I have 7 minutes to roam around the map before I must return to repeat the banal process yet again. Yes, that's just like real life (work, food, energy, it's all repetitive), but you've forgotten - it's a game!

Often you find yourself punished for making assumptions according to your own knowledge of our shared physical reality. It's like the game is arguing with you, lol. Is that not the appeal of a realistic game, to encourage players to bring outside knowledge into the systems of play? What recourse does the average player have in that situation? I wouldn't mind it if the tone was consistent, but with development-by-piecemeal that's probably impossible. Why do I even write this stuff. It's such a tempting game, what complexity!, yet ultimately it's just kind of dissatisfying to play someone else's apocalypse.

[Egan_BW]

Yes, there are indeed good reasons to not play Escape From Tarkov~

[Aseaheru]

You mean you dont want to play a game containing guns with fifteen lasers, five grips, and seven scopes?!?