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Author Topic: Shattered Lands II (In progress)  (Read 15377 times)

DolosusDoleus

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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #120 on: October 25, 2019, 08:28:52 pm »

Establish the Dutchy of the South Seas
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #121 on: October 25, 2019, 08:48:53 pm »

Raid XXXIV with 8 men. Attack X with 10.

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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #122 on: October 26, 2019, 04:51:02 pm »

Duke RulerOfNothing invests in infrastructure, laying 4 miles of new roads. They also raid XXVIII, since they didn't have a boat, and walk away with 4 points.

Duke evictedSaint raids XXXIV, taking 5 of their hard earned points. They also attack X. Oof. In a magnificent bloodbath, both sides deal maximum damage to each other, annihilating the natives and killing 9 hommes d'Eclair.

Duke DolosusDoleus creates the duchy of South Seas.

Duke TheFantasticMrFox sends 2 war parties towards III. One manages to steal 4 points, while the other distracts the enemy army- dealing 3 points of damage and taking 5. Attack fails, but III is critically weakened by all this.

Count Jerick attacks XXI, conquering the land with ease. The local resistance, though small is very fierce and his armies still take 3 casualties.

Count Shadowclaw777 buys 6 new books for the local library. Suddenly he is attacked by Jerican armies, defense is 2 men.

Duke flabort converts 4 miles of marshes into arable land.

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Duke RulerOfNothing of Nothing, points: 21 income: 17/turn

Duke evictedSaint of Eclair, points: 27 income: 14/turn

Duke DolosusDoleus of South Seas, points: 23 income: 13/turn offense:6 boats: 2

Duke TheFantasticMrFox of This Land, points: 44 income: 15/turn offense: 9 boats: 6

Count Jerick, points: 42 income: 16/turn

Count Shadowclaw777, points: 12 income: 13/turn

Duke flabort of Magenter, points: 14 income: 17/turn

Additionally,
III 2 points
XXVIII 6 points
everyone else 10 points.

All actions (even those of the same player) happen simultaneously.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2019, 06:24:38 pm by a1s »
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #123 on: October 26, 2019, 04:58:16 pm »

Did I not get X?

Also, how is Ruler of Nothing making 17 points per turn?

Raid XI with 13 points. Attack XXXIV with 14 points.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 12:15:18 am by evictedSaint »
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #124 on: October 26, 2019, 05:16:01 pm »

Question: So did the first raid make it through with the 50%, or did they get attacked?

Yeah, I am going to ask for a total analysis of what just happened. If I only lost 8, and ended up with 41, that means the raid went through without a battle. This means I would have taken 4 points, and made a 15 vs 4 battle. Not one in which 8 points of damage can be dealt to me.

Assuming I have done my correct and understand how actions go, that would mean I have an income of 16, and  49 points this turn.

I believe the confusion comes from the order the actions where done. I said to have the attack after the raid, not during the raid. They where done side by side, which is not what was written. Either this is a miss application, or the rules are not as I understood them. I would point out that the rules said nothing about two attacks, and assumed if I could not que an action order I would be told.

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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #125 on: October 26, 2019, 05:17:42 pm »

Raid XXXI with 10 men
Invest 5 points into XXXII
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 12:44:00 pm by DolosusDoleus »
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #126 on: October 26, 2019, 06:22:43 pm »

Invest 5 points into offense
Attack XXVIII with 10 points


Also my income is 3(count titles)+2(duke title)+12(province bonus) which adds up to 17.
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #127 on: October 26, 2019, 06:24:00 pm »

Forgot to update the map, sorry.
Did I not get X?

Also, how is Ruler of Nothing making 17 points per turn?
So, yes.

3 lands 12 improvements and a Duchy (2)

Question: So did the first raid make it through with the 50%, or did they get attacked?

Yeah, I am going to ask for a total analysis of what just happened. If I only lost 8, and ended up with 41, that means the raid went through without a battle. This means I would have taken 4 points, and made a 15 vs 4 battle. Not one in which 8 points of damage can be dealt to me.

Assuming I have done my correct and understand how actions go, that would mean I have an income of 16, and  49 points this turn.

I believe the confusion comes from the order the actions where done. I said to have the attack after the raid, not during the raid. They where done side by side, which is not what was written. Either this is a miss application, or the rules are not as I understood them. I would point out that the rules said nothing about two attacks, and assumed if I could not que an action order I would be told.
No, you can't queue actions. Everything happens at once.
Edit: I guess it doesn't say that anywhere, huh? Alright, just this once I will Rerun your turn (with the same rolls, though, so I'm afraid 4.5 beats 3.18, you do get 3 extra points back)
Full analysis coming up:
Your raid made it through the 50% and stole 4 points, to be deducted at the end of the turn (together with income)
Your attack had base strength of 15.9, modified by your roll of 2 to be strength 3.18. The enemy had base strength 9 modified by their roll of 9 to be strength 8.1- III wins.

For real though, I am sorry about the confusion.
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #128 on: October 26, 2019, 06:27:41 pm »

What does re-running the turn mean exactly?
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #129 on: October 26, 2019, 06:35:33 pm »

well you rolled a well enough to avoid battle during your initial raid, and then when you attacked the reduced army it still wasn't enough to conquer the territory. but you took less damage.

In the future though, as the 1 post now states: All actions (of all players regardless of position on the list) happen at the same time and can not be ordered or coordinated within the turn.
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #130 on: October 26, 2019, 06:35:42 pm »

Invest 5 points into offense
Attack XXVIII with 10 points


Also my income is 3(count titles)+2(duke title)+12(province bonus) which adds up to 17.

The map had originally shown you with two 4 improvements - my confusion was due to the map not being updated.

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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #131 on: October 26, 2019, 07:51:17 pm »

Raid XXIII with 7

Invest 7 into XV
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #132 on: October 26, 2019, 09:24:10 pm »

Raid XXIII with 7

Invest 7 into XV


Flavor, you can invest either 1, 3, 6, 10, or 15 points.  Raising a territory to a new point level costs that point amount - so raising a 3 to a 4 costs 4 points, raising a 5 to a 6 costs 6 points, etc.

If you want a territory to give you 3 points per turn, it costs you 6 points.

7 points doesnt do anything.

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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #133 on: October 27, 2019, 12:01:44 am »

-Attack XIV with 30 Troops
-Attack XV with 14 Troops
Let slip the Foxes of war.

Note: Refuse Shadowclaws assistance to ensure he has troops to defend himself from jerick.
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Re: Shattered Lands II (In progress)
« Reply #134 on: October 27, 2019, 12:13:13 am »

Dedicate all troops to defense
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 03:29:06 pm by Shadowclaw777 »
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