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[Sudurandom]

I'm voting for force mastery as a focus.
While A is the coolest option, CD is probably more practical.

Spoiler: Tellos Varren (click to show/hide)

Name: Tellos Varren

Race: Human

Appearance: Tall and aristocratic, with the traditional red lightsaber. (Think a younger Count Dooku.)


Force Rank:6 (You have just truly started treading down the path of power. Indicates your power level in relation to other opponents.)

Attributes: 4 points to assign, max two to a stat. Determine number of die rolled.
   Martial:0
   Willpower:2
   Cunning:2

Skills: Choose 3 skills to start with. You can create your own skills if appropriate, this is by no means a comprehensive list. Skills inform areas where your character is notably skilled. You can still perform and attempt tasks that you don’t have a skill in.
- Force Arcana
- Lightsaber Combat
- History

Force Points: 5 (Everyone starts with 5. Used to avoid damage and use force powers on the battlefield.)

Force Powers: Everyone starts with some basics, and then chose a further 2 powers form the powers list.
Lightsaber Throw (Action) Throws lightsaber, cutting down enemies. Will return to your hand in unless intercepted.
-Telekinesis (Action) Includes quick pushes and pulls. May use more force points to increase effect.
-Enhanced Agility (buff) Increases your actual speed and reaction time. Great in close combat, also useful for ranged.
-Enhanced Senses (buff) Increases your preception of the world. Great when scouting or in ranged combat.
- Battle Trance(buff) While battle meditation focuses outward the battle trance focuses on the self, guiding the user on the most efficient path to achieve thier goals. When fighting a master of this technique wastes no movement, dodging attacks by millimeters and striking through the smallest openings in thier opponents guard.
- Telekinesis Mastery (Action) Everything around you is a weapon. Toss enemies through walls, tear down buildings and become a force of destruction.

Combat Style: Lightsaber and blaster.

Goal: To improve thier personal power through mastery of the force

[Madman198237]

Nooooooooooooooo!

Anyway, we should do mobility, because it's a whole heck of a lot easier to take a planet when based on a Harrower than it is to steal a Harrower when based on a planet. Also because, being Sith, a little bit of Grand Theft Starship will be pathetically easy---go to a system where ships drop out of hyperspace to recalibrate their computers and accurately plot the next jump, and start stealing freighters. Boom, instant supply of ships AND the resources they're carrying, and if they're escorted you can start salvaging (parts of) warships, too.

Cart the salvaged ships off the deep space and you can build a gigantic space station out of cargo freighter cargo holds, or just stockpile ships and man them as you recruit more people.

Being based on a planet limits our ability to go exploring other places, makes us vulnerable if we anger anyone powerful (they'll know where to find us), and is just generally not as awesome as the piracy plan.


NINJA EDIT:

I want Force Mastery/Arcana/Research/Whatever as described in the OP as our focus, no politics for us.

[Taricus]

The requires a little more resources than what we have, and piracy would generate a lot of attention. Not to mention, we got to get food from somewhere, and deep space just ain't practical for it.

Besides, it's a lot easier to get a ship after starting with a planet than the other way around.

[ConscriptFive]

Spoiler: Yob Aval Character Sheet (click to show/hide)

Name: Yob Aval

Race: Renounced Mandalorian (passes as Human)

Appearance: A short unassuming young man with vaguely non-caucasian facial features. Typically not visibly armed as he prefers a concealed blaster.

Force Rank: 6 (You have just truly started treading down the path of power.)

Attributes: 4 points to assign, max two to a stat. Determine number of die rolled.
   Martial: 0
   Willpower: 2
   Cunning: 2

Skills:
- Blaster
- Stealth
- Hacking

Force Points: 5

Force Powers:
 - Lightsaber Throw (Action) Throws lightsaber, cutting down enemies. Will return to your hand in unless intercepted.
 - Telekinesis (Action) Includes quick pushes and pulls. May use more force points to increase effect.
 - Enhanced Agility (buff) Increases your actual speed and reaction time. Great in close combat, also useful for ranged.
 - Enhanced Senses (buff) Increases your preception of the world. Great when scouting or in ranged combat.
 - Enhanced Senses Mastery (Buff)
 - Force Shadow (Ritual) A Force shadow was a mental projection of the user that could be cast across vast distances and allowed the user to see through the shadow's eyes. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Force_shadow


Combat Style: Openly disdainful of "honorable" combat, Yob Aval prefers stealthy ambushes and assassinations.  Especially the kind so sublimely subtle, you can walk away from.  Despite renouncing everything else Mandalorian, he remained skilled with a variety of blasters.

Goal: Born Mandalorian, Yob Aval never quite fit in.  Short of stature and of dubious moral character, he renounced his "proud" heritage and fell in as a career criminal in an organized crime family.  A loner at heart, he had a falling out with that organization as well.  Hiding alone in a dingy Coruscant apartment with only a computer to keep him company, he discovered the ways of the Sith online.  Self taught as a Dark Force user, eventually his savings were drained and he was forced to rejoin society for gainful employment.  He introduced himself to this Sith Order, dreaming of the resources and power to be his own boss.

Edit: fixed stat points

[Naturegirl1999]

Spoiler: Yob Aval Character Sheet (click to show/hide)

Name: Yob Aval

Race: Renounced Mandalorian (passes as Human)

Appearance: A short unassuming young man with vaguely non-caucasian facial features.  Prefers a concealed blaster.

Force Rank: 6 (You have just truly started treading down the path of power.)

Attributes: 4 points to assign, max two to a stat. Determine number of die rolled.
   Martial: 0
   Willpower: 1
   Cunning: 3

Skills:
- Blaster
- Stealth
- Hacking

Force Points: 5

Force Powers:
 - Lightsaber Throw (Action) Throws lightsaber, cutting down enemies. Will return to your hand in unless intercepted.
 - Telekinesis (Action) Includes quick pushes and pulls. May use more force points to increase effect.
 - Enhanced Agility (buff) Increases your actual speed and reaction time. Great in close combat, also useful for ranged.
 - Enhanced Senses (buff) Increases your preception of the world. Great when scouting or in ranged combat.
 - Enhanced Senses Mastery (Buff)
 - Force Shadow (Ritual) A Force shadow was a mental projection of the user that could be cast across vast distances and allowed the user to see through the shadow's eyes. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Force_shadow


Combat Style: Openly disdainful of "honorable" combat, Yob Aval prefers stealthy ambushes and assassinations.  Especially the kind so sublimely subtle, you can walk away from.  Despite renouncing everything else Mandalorian, he remained skilled with a variety of blasters.

Goal: Born Mandalorian, Yob Aval never quite fit in.  Short of stature and of dubious moral character, he renounced his "proud" heritage and fell in as a career criminal in an organized crime family.  A loner at heart, he had a falling out with that organization as well.  Hiding alone in a dingy Coruscant apartment with only a computer to keep him company, he discovered the ways of the Sith online.  Self taught as a Dark Force user, eventually his savings were drained and he was forced to rejoin society for gainful employment.  He introduced himself to this Sith Order, dreaming of the resources and power to be his own boss.

max two to a stat.

[Madman198237]

The requires a little more resources than what we have, and piracy would generate a lot of attention. Not to mention, we got to get food from somewhere, and deep space just ain't practical for it.

Besides, it's a lot easier to get a ship after starting with a planet than the other way around.

Why would it require more resources than we have? We're starting with a Harrower-class Dreadnought (basically a somewhat smaller Star Destroyer in function and capability), we can definitely manage to pirate a bulk transport or two and then sell their goods to pay our upkeep costs. Harrowers or similarly capable vessels are EXPENSIVE, and planets are pretty much a dime a dozen---at least as far as death worlds go. You are basically saying that it's much easier to just acquire a MASSIVE warship out of nowhere than it is to land some troops on a planet nobody else wants because it's full of murderplants or Force apparitions or whatever.

[Taricus]

Going by C2M's description, we aren't going to start with a capital ship at all for that. I feel like that information should be taken into account before pushing for that.

EDIT: My mistake, I misread something. Ignore that.

[Madman198237]

"    A. Capital Ship: Start with on board a modified Star Destroyer (Looks like a Harrower class Dreadnaught).  Grants additional mobility for your Order, and Zero-G and ship experience brings additional value to your recruits. Downside, If ship is lost it will be devastating. Hard to store materials, cannot expand without very significant investment.
B. Space Station. : Start with a star fortress in orbit around a world.Provides an exotic location for your Order., and provides options for both training in space and on the ground.
Downsides, Hard to bring down, but lacks mobility of a Capital Ship. Easier to expand than a capital ship but still expensive.
C. On the Ground: Start with a planetary Base. Has tons of room to start off and expand from. Choose the type of World to be on.
Downsides: No mobility, no space training but that can be made up in other ways. Probably the Safest Choice."

We're getting a Harrower-class (a similar vessel, anyway, we're not *exactly* going by canon stuff here) for sure.

[Taricus]

Yeah, I misread. Still, planetbound is the best choice. Sure, we're not mobile, but with the right plent, no-one is going to be in any rush to come after us. So long as we're no where anyone would generally have any business in being, we're not going to have much to worry about hostile visitors.

The other thing though, is how the fuck are we gonna afford to supply a friggen star destroyer? That shit ain't gonna be easy or subtle.

[Madman198237]

Yeah, I misread. Still, planetbound is the best choice. Sure, we're not mobile, but with the right plent, no-one is going to be in any rush to come after us. So long as we're no where anyone would generally have any business in being, we're not going to have much to worry about hostile visitors.

The other thing though, is how the fuck are we gonna afford to supply a friggen star destroyer? That shit ain't gonna be easy or subtle.

Nobody is going to bother us in our Star Destroyer hanging out in the Outer Rim or even just nowhere in deep space when we want to remain unfindable. A planet is ALWAYS at risk of being located, and once it's located, you ALWAYS have to defend it against ANYTHING your enemies can throw at it---it can't run away. Also, again, a Star Destroyer can land troops on a planet, ESPECIALLY an out-of-the-way planet like you want to have, with no trouble whatsoever. Land troops, establish a base, etc.

Planets, however, are not known for their ability to board and capture a Star Destroyer that is nowhere near them, however.

As for supplying a Star Destroyer...PIRACY. Or, y'know, other sources of income. It's not like food is THAT expensive in Star Wars. Heck, if we want to, we could probably grow our own food, recycle our own water, and then only need to acquire spare parts. Easily purchased by selling some Sith warriors as mercenaries for a bit, or stealing things, or using Force predictive powers to win the lottery.

No harder than supplying a planetary base, in other words.

[chubby2man]

To clarify, you would start with a capital ship, one modified to house a mobile Order as a opposed to a true warship. You wouldn’t be gimping yourself or anything if you choose A.

However, you would be getting a fortress/temple equal in value to a capital ship, so you wouldn’t be starting off with a shack or anything.

Basically, no trap options here! You got cool mobile star destroyer like or cool temple/fortress. The mobile Academy ship probably has a higher risk/reward, as there are very few Orders based in a capital ship. But a Planet base might be easier to make a late game powerhouse HQ.

[ConscriptFive]

...how do you run out of room on a star destroyer?  Seriously, look up the full compliment of a classic original trilogy Imperial I-class. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_I-class_Star_Destroyer

~30,000 crew
~10,000 stormtroopers
~72 starfighters
~50 walkers
~25 transports/shuttles

Unless we plan on straight-up invading planets, we can rip out most of those military capabilities to make room for other facilities.  Or are we starting out empty, and then growing into a 40k manpower combined arms invasion force?

The Harrower class is a Knight of the Old Republic invention.  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Harrower-class_dreadnought
Similar ground forces, yet somehow gets by with 1/10th the crew.  Go figure.

[Beirus]

Spoiler: Titus Arellian (click to show/hide)

Name: Titus Arellian

Race: Human

Appearance: A robust, tall human with fair skin and brown hair. His athletic build with defined muscles is definitely not inconspicuous due to his height of 6'2" and tends to make him stand out above crowds unless the crowd is full of Wookies. He is fond of wearing a grey cloak over his charcoal battle outfit. Both his eyes and his lightsaber are an emerald green. Three thin white scars run below his left eye to his chin, a reminder of an encounter with a feral creature in his adolescence.


Force Rank:6

Attributes:
Martial:1
Willpower: 2
Cunning:1

Skills:
- Lightsaber Combat
- Force Arcana
- Animal Training

Force Points: 5

Force Powers:
Lightsaber Throw (Action) Throws lightsaber, cutting down enemies. Will return to your hand in unless intercepted.
-Telekinesis (Action) Includes quick pushes and pulls. May use more force points to increase effect.
-Enhanced Agility (buff) Increases your actual speed and reaction time. Great in close combat, also useful for ranged.
-Enhanced Senses (buff) Increases your preception of the world. Great when scouting or in ranged combat.
- Force Kill (Action) With the power of the Dark Side, no one is assured of life. Directing the very energies of hate and passion, slay foes with but an extension of your will. The Force does protect from such instant kills… but if they have exhausted their power defending themselves, their lives are at your mercy.
- Enslave Beast (Action): Dominion over all living things is an inevitability for a true Sith. Draw deep upon the Dark Side to forge mental chains of passion which create an unbreakable bond in a non-sapient beast towards the user, rendering the creature utterly loyal and allowing the user limited telepathic communication with the animal.

Combat Style: Double-bladed Lightsaber, defensively oriented fighting style.

Goal: He seeks understanding into the complete mysteries of the Force and its interaction with life. He will not rest until he has mastered the Force by recovering long-lost knowledge about it and learning new methods to utilize it. He also has a fascination with the animals indigenous to planets, and desires to collect the most impressive menagerie in the galaxy.

I really like C, D, for the access to lost knowledge and possibly creatures to tame. No reason we can't make a ship after or while some of us are exploring some ruins, possibly with better tech if the ruins have it.

Also, I was tempted to go with Drain Life and Force Kill to try to be the next Darth Nihilus, but then I though a beastmaster would be cool.

[Madman198237]

I really like C, D, for the access to lost knowledge and possibly creatures to tame. No reason we can't make a ship after or while some of us are exploring some ruins, possibly with better tech if the ruins have it.

Also, I was tempted to go with Drain Life and Force Kill to try to be the next Darth Nihilus, but then I though a beastmaster would be cool.

The reason we can't make starships of equivalent size and capability is because those require massive resources and an orbital shipyard. We CAN, however, make a base of SIMILAR UTILITY to the full-blown planetside base with a starship-based Order. We can gain most of the advantages of a planetary base by just going to a planet and landing some equipment. We can't do the same with the planet base.

[Beirus]

By that logic, we could make ships of similar utility since the capital ship and planetary base are supposed to be equal. And the ship lacks both the lost knowledge and tameable creatures without the hassle of having to go to a planet first. It honestly seems like it comes down to a decision of whether we want to start with the ability to find places to explore after taking the time to make a base, or whether we want to have a place to explore already at the start with a base to fall back to and recover at.

Sure, the argument could be made that we could find planets with those sorts of things to explore, but we could still do that after building ships. Frankly, I'm less interested in Instant Space Piracy than Instant Mystical Ruins to Explore.