About the mechanics and scumhunting, let's say I'm already doing scumhunting (in the form of voting Persus) and talking about the mechanics so we know what we're into.
That vote on Persus isn't gonna do much given the question behind it's a fluffy thing... you are responding nicely to the stuff I say, tho. Is good!
I mean, we do have to start somewhere simple.
So far, there's nothing upon which I can build my reads on the players yet, however I am interested in the fact you found me "pushing" this analysis early as if there's something suspect behind it.
We're in RVS, we are! I'm just kinda throwing about whatever accusations pop into my head.
Indeed we are. Which is why I used the RNG to vote at the very beginning: it's just the Random Vote Stage and we've got nothing to go from.
Have you thought it likely that I did it out of concern that it's easy to lose this game?
The thought maybe-kinda crossed my head, I guess? I wanted to know how you'd answer.
Why is it so important to convey the precariousness of our situation right now, when we're nowhere near a consensus?
Conveying it
now is better than conveying it
later. Besides, it's either bring it up today or tomorrow. There's no other reasonable option.
Persus13 (red names are votes, right?), what do you think of this mysterious scroll that is hung up on the wall?
I think its flavor text by the mod to create a premise for us to all be trying to kill each other.
You seem to have played Mafia on other forums. Is there any lingo you might use that we might not be acquainted with?
Very meta.
Anyway, not sure what lingo I am using that you wouldn't be familiar with. Besides, they're all available on the Mafia Wiki, so basically stuff like LAMIST (Look At Me I'm So Town!), LYLO (Lynch or Lose), MYLO (Mislynch and Lose), etc. If there is anything you're not acquainted with, you SHOULD ask me (like Naturegirl did with LYLO).
If you're talking about how we go with the lynches, then indeed we need to be. Assuming all lynches are mislynches, all night kills are successful, and there are at most two mafiosos, the game would go like this
End of Day 1: 6 players (two mafia and four town)
End of Night 1: 5 players (two mafia and three town)
End of Day 2: 4 players (two mafia and two town)
We're very likely to be at LYLO to-morrow, unless the scum is a one-man team (could be a singular serial killer as scum and no mafia? never saw a one-man scumteam setup before).
Vigilante is also a possible roll in this set up, which could affect your analysis.
As well as doctors. The point is this analysis assumes all mislynches and nightkills go through successfully, which means no power roles halting or speeding up LYLO. Basically a worst-case scenario, which also seems likely if the scum is an all-star team and no power role townie could deduce which is their best target.
Small setups are kinda dicey like that, yeah. Either you end up with a potential D2 LYLO or the scumteam has no margin for error and a single random lynch can take them out. There are ways around it, but they're super gimmicky and tend to cause as many problems as they solve.
inb4 multiple SKs with no factional kill
Precisely. The dilemma of balancing the factions is quite a big deal in small setups. Like a 7 player setup would be best if it's 6 townies against 1 scum, but the scum don't get the scummy advantage of having a partner that they can collaborate with. It takes the "informed" out of the "informed minority" basically.
Pooka: From the other places you've played, what would you say is the biggest scumtell?
The biggest scumtell I have seen so far is messing up the flavor in a flavor heavy game. For example, if we're a bunch of soldiers at a barracks, the days are basically "call rolls" or whatever they are called and nights are the break periods, you don't show up and say you tracked Yuri and saw him sleeping soundly in his house, at night. Other than that, the problem with scumtells is that they could be either subtle, or a town player can show them.
Ok
Persus13, since it seems like people voted for him already
I think you're new here? Worth noting that building "wagons" without a reason of your own (for example, "I found Persus13 to be a bit scummy because of [insert something he said here]") can land you in hot water. Don't vote him because others voted him, vote him because YOU found something wrong with him.
I guess I'll ask a question then.
Everyone, do you think that there is a over-powered role we might be using?
Not sure about your definition of over-powered, but if we have a cop, I hope we can make the most use out of him. That said, if my analysis is correct, we will get only one night to figure out what's going on with our power roles.
Everyone, do double posts merge into a single post? On GOG, I have to wait about 11 to 15 minutes before double posting, otherwise the post is merged...and then it shows as edited.