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[Meph]

Sure I have the sprites. ^^ You too, just open data/art in my tileset and have a look at the workshop.png.

Standalone display rack: Yes and no. It can't be furniture (those are hardcoded), but you can make it a workshop. 1x1 workshop with the tool as build-mat. Would even allow a unique sprite for each fish, in theory, if you use Roses building-subtype-change script. That's how I do my decorations. It would be the same as my decorative weapon/armorracks.

[Eric Blank]

You could just put the trophy tool on display pedestals too and set it as a museum zone. Dwarves will come by and admire it occasionally. Might not contribute to room value? Not sure on that...

[Meph]

Which is the easiest option, but TWBT dislikes portraying several items on top of each other. If you put an item on a pedestal, the overrides won't work correctly.

Either way, adding 1 sprite for the tool is easy; while adding 200-whatever sprites for all the fish would be a lot of work, no matter if it's 200 materials, 200 tools or 200 custom workshops. ^^

[brolol.404]

Yeah. That would be a lot of workshops lol for now, I'll just leave it as the tool, but maybe come back to this after the fish are added.

[brolol.404]

I decided to add 10 more fish to the tropical biome bringing the total to 151:

Golden Mussel   Mussel   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
Zebra Mussel   Mussel   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
Cherry Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
Crystal Red Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Uncommon
Crystal Black Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Rare
Tiger Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
Bolt Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
Bamboo Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
Ghost Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare
Vampire Shrimp   Crawfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare

[Meph]

Are most of the fish copy+paste, or do any have special somethings? Like venom/poison, etc?

[TomiTapio]

How's your haddock fish's value?

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[CREATURE:FISH_HADDOCK] --added by TomiTapio, want 3x regular fish's value.
   "Haddock is a very popular food fish, sold fresh, smoked, frozen, dried, or to a small extent canned."

[brolol.404]

How's your haddock fish's value?

I haven't started on any saltwater fish or worked on any value differences yet. After I get all of the fish in I can definitely work on value differences. Is Haddock a fish that you would like to see more valuable?

Are most of the fish copy+paste, or do any have special somethings? Like venom/poison, etc?

Yes, well kind of lol (I'll explain below), but I plan to add special/unique things after I get all of the fish added in. Are there any ideas you had specifically?

I set up this mod in a very unique way. Almost everything is added through creature variations applied to a creature template, but unique attributes can still be applied directly to the creature or by making new templates/variations. So most fish are different in at least some way. Some are very different.

Here is an example of a fish with a unique characteristic.

This is the entire Wels Catfish creature (as you can see it has a unique size):

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[CREATURE:fe_FISH_CATFISH_WELS]
[COPY_TAGS_FROM:fe_FISH_TEMPLATE]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_GLOBAL]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_TEMP_RIVER_LAKE]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_RARITY_MYTHIC]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_CATFISH]
[CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC:900] this is an enormous fish at a possible 400lbs
[GO_TO_START]
[NAME:wels catfish:wels catfish:wels catfish]
[CASTE_NAME:wels catfish:wels catfish:wels catfish]
This translates to:

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[CREATURE:fe_FISH_TEMPLATE]
[DESCRIPTION:A fish.]
[NAME:fish:fish:fish]
[CASTE_NAME:fish:fish:fish]
[CREATURE_TILE:224][COLOR:6:0:0]
[PREFSTRING:coloration]
[PREFSTRING:dorsal fins]
[PREFSTRING:large eyes]
[SOUND:ALERT:10:100:VOCALIZATION:splash:splashes:splash]
[SOUND:PEACEFUL_INTERMITTENT:5:1000:VOCALIZATION:splash:splashes:splash]
[VERMIN_FISH]
[AQUATIC][SMALL_REMAINS][FISHITEM][UNDERSWIM][VERMIN_NOTRAP]
[NATURAL]
[NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[BODY:BASIC_2PARTBODY:BASIC_HEAD:SIDE_FINS:DORSAL_FIN:TAIL:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:MOUTH:RIBCAGE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:SKIN]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:LEATHER]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:PARCHMENT]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:HAIR]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:SKIN]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:HAIR]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SCALE:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
[PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SCALE:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[ATTACK:BITE:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[NO_DRINK]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_WALK_CRAWL_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:3512:2634:1756:878:4900:6900] 10 kph, NO DATA
[SWIMS_INNATE]
[CANNOT_JUMP]
[MUNDANE]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[LITTERSIZE:10:20]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SCALE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BROWN:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:scales:PLURAL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_GLOBAL]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:DESCRIPTION]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:NAME]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:CASTE_NAME]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:DOES_NOT_EXIST]

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_TEMP_RIVER_LAKE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BIOME:RIVER_TEMPERATE_FRESHWATER]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BIOME:LAKE_TEMPERATE_FRESHWATER]

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_RARITY_MYTHIC]
[CV_NEW_TAG:POPULATION_NUMBER:0:1]
[CV_NEW_TAG:FREQUENCY:10]


Code: [Select]

[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_CATFISH]
[CV_NEW_TAG:DESCRIPTION:A small whiskered fish found in muddy inland waters.]
[CV_NEW_TAG:PREFSTRING:whiskers]
[CV_NEW_TAG:CREPUSCULAR]
[CV_NEW_TAG:MATUTINAL]
[CV_NEW_TAG:NOCTURNAL]
[CV_NEW_TAG:MAXAGE:0:30]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BODY_SIZE:0:0:200]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BODY_SIZE:30:0:20000]


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        [CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC:900] this is an enormous fish at a possible 400lbs
[GO_TO_START]
[NAME:wels catfish:wels catfish:wels catfish]
[CASTE_NAME:wels catfish:wels catfish:wels catfish]

This is the entire Blue Crawfish creature (completely different than the Wels Catfish)

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[CREATURE:fe_FISH_CRAWFISH_BLUE]
[COPY_TAGS_FROM:fe_LOBSTER_TEMPLATE]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_GLOBAL]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_TEMP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_RARITY_COMMON]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_CRAWFISH]
[GO_TO_START]
[NAME:blue crawfish:blue crawfish:blue crawfish]
[CASTE_NAME:blue crawfish:blue crawfish:blue crawfish]

This translates to:

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[CREATURE:fe_LOBSTER_TEMPLATE]
[DESCRIPTION:A lobster.]
[NAME:lobster:lobsters:lobster]
[CASTE_NAME:lobster:lobsters:lobster]
[CREATURE_TILE:157][COLOR:7:0:1]
[PREFSTRING:coloration]
[PREFSTRING:claws]
[VERMIN_FISH][VERMIN_NOFISH]
[AQUATIC][SMALL_REMAINS][FISHITEM][NOBONES][UNDERSWIM][COOKABLE_LIVE]
[NATURAL]
[NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_WALKING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph
[NATURAL_SKILL:CLIMBING:15]
[NO_DRINK]
[NO_SLEEP]
[NOPAIN]
[EXTRAVISION]
[NOSTUN]
[NOFEAR]
[CANNOT_JUMP]
[BODY:SPIDER:SHELL:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH:TAIL:UPPERBODY_PINCERS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_MATERIALS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_TISSUES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXOSKELETON_TISSUE_LAYERS:CHITIN:FAT:MUSCLE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:ICHOR:ICHOR_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:ICHOR:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[HOMEOTHERM:10040]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[LITTERSIZE:10:20]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:CHITIN]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:WHITE:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:chitin:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]


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[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_GLOBAL]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:DESCRIPTION]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:NAME]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:CASTE_NAME]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:DOES_NOT_EXIST]


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[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_TEMP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BIOME:RIVER_TEMPERATE_FRESHWATER]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BIOME:LAKE_TEMPERATE_FRESHWATER]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BIOME:POOL_TEMPERATE_FRESHWATER]


Code: [Select]

[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_RARITY_COMMON]
[CV_NEW_TAG:POPULATION_NUMBER:250:500]
[CV_NEW_TAG:FREQUENCY:83]


Code: [Select]

[CREATURE_VARIATION:fe_CRAWFISH]
[CV_NEW_TAG:DESCRIPTION:A crawfish.]
[CV_NEW_TAG:NO_AUTUMN]
[CV_NEW_TAG:NO_WINTER]
[CV_NEW_TAG:ALL_ACTIVE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:MAXAGE:0:2]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BODY_SIZE:0:0:1]
[CV_NEW_TAG:BODY_SIZE:2:0:2]


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        [GO_TO_START]
[NAME:blue crawfish:blue crawfish:blue crawfish]
[CASTE_NAME:blue crawfish:blue crawfish:blue crawfish]


edit: added Blue Crawfish translation for comparison

[brolol.404]

do any have special somethings? Like venom/poison, etc?

I decided that I am going to add the following attacks to these freshwater fish (I assume it will work like bee stings):

Electric Eel: electric (pain/numbness/impaired function/paralysis/swelling/brusing/unconsciousness)
Stingray: sting (intense pain/brusing/swelling)
Piranha/Tigerfish/Payara: bite (pain/bruising/bleeding)

[Meph]

Ok, thanks ☺️

I'm mostly asking because I've been wondering if it has gameplay impacts other than "more fishes".

[brolol.404]

The plan is to eventually add certain  materials and material values to different fish and allow for certain reactions only for certain fish. Getting those reactions to work has been a bit of a struggle so far though lol

If you hve any ideas for any additional gameplay mechanics let me know

I decided to try to make a glass aquarium reaction out of raw glass. That way even in a sand less area, you can still bring/ trade for raw glass and make the aquariums easier

[Meph]

You could mod in a new inorganic for your custom glass aquariums and use TWBT to give it a special sprite: A fishbowl, instead of a glass box.

I don't know much about RL fishing, but there seems to be a severe lack of the super-poisonous sea snakes that exist in real life; just like poisonous cat-fish, stone-fish, and other types of things you should avoid while diving (which is a topic I know^^).

Guess eating fugu, pufferfish, should come with some risks too. X% syndrome with paralysis?

[brolol.404]

You could mod in a new inorganic for your custom glass aquariums and use TWBT to give it a special sprite: A fishbowl, instead of a glass box.

This is a cool idea. I'm not familiar with using TWBT but I could even make a new "glass" material that allows different types of stone to be turned into "stone livewells".

I don't know much about RL fishing, but there seems to be a severe lack of the super-poisonous sea snakes that exist in real life; just like poisonous cat-fish, stone-fish, and other types of things you should avoid while diving (which is a topic I know^^).

Guess eating fugu, pufferfish, should come with some risks too. X% syndrome with paralysis?

These are cool ideas. I will definitely add sea snake, stone fish, pufferfish, lion fish, sea urchin, etc. When I get to the ocean biome. I'm not sure the poison material would carry over the the raw fish, but I will play around with it and see what I can do.

I did not know about poisonous catfish. I will look into them

[brolol.404]

It has been busy lately but I am almost done adding the freshwater tropical fish. Once I finish adding them I plan to move onto the dolphins, sharks and whales (the only non-vermin aquatic creatures). And after that, the ocean fish and then possibly some cave fish.

When I get more time, I plan to record the fish caught each season for a year to log the type and amount of each. This will give a good view of the actual in game effect of this mod.

Edit: I am thinking about setting very small fish to catchable live only so that they can still be caught for aquariums, but wont be caught while fishing

[Meph]

So... considering that Toady added crab, sponge, and oysters/mussels, will you do a list of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_invertebrates ? Or microvermin swarms of plankton?