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[brolol.404]

Get material from reagent :A:NONE.

Thanks. I will try it out.

I am thinking of adding the following mythic rarity (extremely rare) fish to the temperate freshwater biome:

Wels Catfish   Catfish      TEMP_RIVER_LAKE         Mythic
Giant Alligator Gar   Gar      TEMP_RIVER_LAKE         Mythic
Beluga Sturgeon   Sturgeon      TEMP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST         Mythic
White Sturgeon   Sturgeon      TEMP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST         Mythic

If caught live these fish can get up to 400, 300, 1,000 and 2,500 lbs respectively.

[Kiloku]

There could also be some variations in shelled molluscs that give more valuable shells (like mother-of-pearl) for decoration/crafts.

This made me think about rarely colored shellfish, like blue lobsters and half-blue lobsters! Maybe their shells could be more expensive and give happy thoughts but have the same physical properties. 
Is it possible to make an animal's color variation rarer while still making it the same species and possible to appear in the same populations?

[brolol.404]

There could also be some variations in shelled molluscs that give more valuable shells (like mother-of-pearl) for decoration/crafts.

This made me think about rarely colored shellfish, like blue lobsters and half-blue lobsters! Maybe their shells could be more expensive and give happy thoughts but have the same physical properties. 
Is it possible to make an animal's color variation rarer while still making it the same species and possible to appear in the same populations?

Cool idea. I will add these when I get to the ocean biome.

I believe it is possible to set a specific color scheme to a caste within a species. It is also possible to make that caste rarer than the others. Unfortunately, I believe the material value would be creature specific unless I created a unique reaction for the caste variants or figured out a creative way to get around it.

I could just make them a separate species though. The only thing it would effect is that they would only be able to breed with others of the same color.

[brolol.404]

Get material from reagent :A:NONE.

Awesome! this worked!



From left to right:

Steelhead Trout Bone Trophy sitting on a Pedestal
Fish Processing Workshop
Fishery (vanilla DF)

[Meph]

Get material from reagent :A:NONE.

Awesome! this worked!

I know.

It looks at the creature and takes the material the corpse is made from, which curiously enough isn't meat, but bone. I made a lot of parts that way in my necromancer mod.

I'll have a look at making a quick set of sprites for the fish processing workshop (is that a good name?) that matches my tileset and the steam set. Can't do much about the creature graphics, because they are vermin and currently vermin don't use creature sprites but tiles from the regular tileset in data/art, and TWBT doesn't allow overrides for them.

Mh... but the tool could get a sprite.

[brolol.404]

Cool thanks! A sprite for the workshop and trophy would be cool!

[Bihlbo]

New list for freshwater temperate rivers and lakes (118). I think I got most of them this time. Let me know if there are any you would like to see added.

I don't understand why you'd want so many different fish. I get that some similar fish are going to be vastly different sizes, or will inhabit different biomes. But for crying out loud, 14 bass types alone? Is there a meaningful difference between even half of them? Why do I want my stocks filled up with a glut of names? For the most part it's distinction without a difference. I'd prefer to get rid of most of these, for instance striping the bass list to the following: Rock Bass (temperate), Black Bass (tropical). I just don't understand wanting all this variety for nothing more than names. Also, many of these fish are so small that I don't see the point in catching them unless you're going to introduce a bait mechanic (minnows? seriously?).

[brolol.404]

I see your point, but as a fisherman IRL I really like seeing these fish in game. All of those types of bass are common when bass fishing. The other fish are common as well (except for the lamprey, eels, mussels and suckers).

I do get what you are saying with minnows though, but at this point, this mod has become more of an animal crossing collector type mechanic. From a base builder game mechanic point of view these fish are just names with no meaningful difference in terms of fort survival, but from a collection/trophy hunter point of view, the fish have a wide variety of locations, seasons and rarities.

The minnows were originally added as a way to "buffer" the game fish rarity (as there is no "you didnt get a bite" mechanic), but they have become part of the animal crossing esc collection book. And fish are presumably caught by hand, net or pole so it isn't too hard to visualize their capture.

After weeks of development, I would now say that this mod is for players that would like to see a wide variety of fish added to their game or players that enjoy an animal crossing esc collection mechanic. This mod is not focusing on fort survival/utility and is mainly focused on the actual fish (not the fish industry).

With that said, this mod has been constructed in a very unique way. With one tag you can remove all minnows from the mod...

[Bihlbo]

animal crossing collector type mechanic

Okay, that makes sense.

[brolol.404]

Here is the final line up for the tropical freshwater fish (142). I have the foundation in place, so I am now just plugging them in. Once these are in, I will move onto the ocean fish.

I decided that I am going to make all fish/fish like creatures vermin except for sharks, dolphins and whales.

1   Black Arowana   Arowana   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
2   Green Arowana   Arowana   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
3   Pirarucu   Arowana   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Mythic
4   Red Arowana   Arowana   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Uncommon
5   Silver Arowana   Arowana   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare
6   Yellow Tail Arowana   Arowana   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Uncommon
7   Black Ruby Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
8   Cherry Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
9   Denison Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
10   Gold Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
11   Rosy Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
12   Striped Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
13   Tiger Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
14   Tinfoil Barb   Barb   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
15   Combtail Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
16   Crowntail Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
17   Emerald Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
18   Halfmoon Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
19   Rosetail Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
20   Spade Tail Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
21   Spotfin Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
22   Veil Tail Betta   Betta   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
23   Black Mahseer   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
24   Blue-Finned Mahseer   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
25   Brown Mahseer    Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
26   Butterfly Koi   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
27   Carp   Carp   DF   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
28   Copper Mahseer   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
29   Ghost Koi   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Rare
30   Giant Barb   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Rare
31   Golden Mahseer   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
32   Golden Shiner   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
33   Grass Carp   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
34   Koi   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
35   Orange-Finned Mahseer    Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
36   Red-Finned Mahseer    Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
37   Silver Carp   Carp   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare
38   Firewood Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
39   Gilded Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
40   Goonch Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Very Rare
41   Kamba Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare
42   Kambali Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
43   Redtail Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
44   Ripsaw Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
45   Smallmouth Electric Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Rare
46   Suni Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Very Rare
47   Tiger Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
48   Tiger Shovelnose Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
49   Vundu Catfish   Catfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare
50   Mayan Cichlid   Cichlid   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Common
51   Midas Cichlid   Cichlid   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Common
52   Angelfish   Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Rare
53   Black Acara   Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Uncommon
54   Blockhead Cichlid    Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
55   Blue Discus   Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
56   Dogtooth Cichlid    Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
57   Jaguar Guapote   Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Rare
58   Oscar   Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Uncommon
59   Rainbow Cichlid    Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
60   Ram Cichlid    Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Uncommon
61   Red Discus   Cichlid    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
62   Bandit Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
63   Bristlenose Catfish   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
64   Bronze Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
65   Bushymouth Catfish   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
66   Julii Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
67   Panda Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
68   Peppered Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
69   Pygmy Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
70   Skunk Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
71   Striped Cory   Cory   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
72   Electric Eel   Eel   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Rare
73   Giant Electric Eel   Eel   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Mythic
74   River Eel   Eel   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare
75   Chocolate Gourami   Gourami   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
76   Croaking Gourami   Gourami   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
77   Honey Gourami   Gourami   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
78   Paradise Fish   Gourami   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
79   Pearl Gourami   Gourami   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
80   Sparkling Gourami   Gourami   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_COAST   Common
81   Spotted Gourami   Gourami   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
82   Banded Knifefish   Knifefish   DF   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
83   Barred Knifefish   Knifefish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Common
84   Black Ghost Knifefish   Knifefish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Rare
85   Clown Knifefish   Knifefish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
86   Featherback Knifefish   Knifefish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
87   Glass Knifefish   Knifefish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
89   Zebra Knifefish   Knifefish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
90   Clown Loach   Loach   DF   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
91   Pond Loach   Loach   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
92   Skunk Loach   Loach   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
93   Stone Loach   Loach   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
94   Zebra Loach   Loach   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
95   Bullseye Snakehead   Lungfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
96   Giant Snakehead   Lungfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Mythic
97   Marbled Lungfish   Lungfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Very Rare
98   Spotted Lungfish   Lungfish   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Rare
99   Common Molly   Minnow   DF   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
100   Goldfish   Minnow   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
101   Guppy   Minnow   DF   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Common
102   Pintail Platy   Minnow   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
103   Rainbow Copella   Minnow   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
104   Rainbow Platy   Minnow   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
105   Sailfin Molly   Minnow   DF   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
106   Spotted Platy   Minnow   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
107   Wagtail Platy   Minnow   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
108   Zebrafish   Minnow   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
109   Black Sharkminnow   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
110   Blue Danio   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
111   Glowlight Danio   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Rare
112   Pearl Danio   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Uncommon
113   Rainbow Sharkminnow   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
114   Red-Tailed Black Sharkminnow   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
115   Rosy Danio   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
116   Slender Danio   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
117   Spotted Danio   Minnow    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
118   Black Pacu   Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
119   Goliath Tigerfish   Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Mythic
120   Nile Perch   Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Very Rare
121   Payara   Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
122   Red-Bellied Pacu   Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
123   Red-bellied Piranha    Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
124   Redeye Piranha    Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
125   Tigerfish   Pacu   DF   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
126   Wimple Piranha    Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Very Rare
127   Wolffish   Pacu   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
128   Giant Nile Perch   Perch   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Mythic
129   Giant River Stingeray   Ray   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Mythic
130   Black Neon Tetra   Tetra   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL   Uncommon
131   Cardinal Tetra   Tetra   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
132   Darter Tetra   Tetra   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
133   Diamond Tetra   Tetra   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Uncommon
134   Disk Tetra   Tetra   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Common
135   Redhook Myleus   Tetra   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Common
136   Neon Tetra   Tetra    FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
137   Blue Tilapia   Tilapia   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
138   Nile Tilapia   Tilapia   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Uncommon
139   Redbelly Tilapia   Tilapia   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
140   Redbreast Tilapia   Tilapia   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
141   Spotted Tilapia   Tilapia   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE_POOL_COAST   Very Common
142   Zebra Tilapia   Tilapia   FE   TROP_RIVER_LAKE   Rare

[Meph]

[Eric Blank]

Are those sprites you were using with the steam release tileset? They look good.

[brolol.404]

These are awesome! Great job man!

[Meph]

These sprites are my own, from/for the Meph tileset. Free to use by anyone, steam or not.

brolol: Didn't knew which one you prefer, just pick one. I decided to forgo the tools in the workshop for the most part, otherwise it would look like my fishery. I picked tons of different tiny fish, to show that it's about the variety and large number of types you'll add.

Tool comes in two variants: a board, to put on a pedestal/display, and a stand-alone display rack sprite.

[brolol.404]

brolol: Didn't knew which one you prefer, just pick one. I decided to forgo the tools in the workshop for the most part, otherwise it would look like my fishery. I picked tons of different tiny fish, to show that it's about the variety and large number of types you'll add.

It's hard to pick one. I like using the most possible fish even if dwarves have to climb over tables to get in lol I'll think on it. Do you have the table/bowl with no fish layer sprite?

Tool comes in two variants: a board, to put on a pedestal/display, and a stand-alone display rack sprite.

These are really cool. Is it possible to make a stand-alone display rack in game? What item token would it be? furniture?