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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #135 on: August 02, 2019, 03:39:01 pm »

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He IS a discoverer of the arts so an obvious choice

And the other is discovering metallurgy and tactics. I think this bears more consideration.
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #136 on: August 03, 2019, 11:47:08 am »

I Imagine our curiousity to be benign so I am more inclined towards arts Guy but you have Made a valid Point.
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2019, 12:15:34 pm »

I Imagine our curiousity to be benign so I am more inclined towards arts Guy but you have Made a valid Point.
Discovery is unbiased. We need to visit both.
But let’s prioritize technology first. Art tends to come when there’s less deathyness.
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #138 on: August 04, 2019, 12:33:00 am »

You ponder the conundrum before you for some time, and an eternity of internal debate passes before you come to a decision, though it is far from final. This Capra emperor... Held alongside their adversary their intellect is nothing particularly awe-inspiring but their devotion to the advancement of cultured civilization is commendable, for in it lies innumerable paths to discovery, and it for this reason alone that he is the first of the pair you'll deign to observe. Of course, some time remains before you'll determine which of the two you're going to be supporting, possibly even both, or perhaps neither. Finding the empire's capital is as easy as following the well-worn but subtle paths across the steppe until you reach the point they intersect, in a primitive citadel home to some two-hundred thousand souls.

An enormous amount of quarries surround the crude walls, and in each labor hundreds of stoop-backed and hollow-eyed mortals. Scanning through their minds, you're curious to find that the overwhelming majority of these are criminals both heinous and trivial, prisoners captured from nomad encampments, and volunteers who've opted to undergo backbreaking labor in favor of taking on a blood oath to fight for the empire in the coming conflict. The remaining minority are a handful of copper-helmeted overseers, who are tasked to record progress by chalking ashen ruins onto stone tablets whilst keeping those working compliant through the threat of violence, as administered through a strange sort of spear with a long, leaf-shaped blade and short, thick handle.

Similarly interesting are the massive fields of wavy, crunchy looking stalks, manned almost entirely by well-organized volunteers who nonetheless struggle from their harsh and unforgiving soil. It seems they haven't yet discovered the mysteries of crop rotation and the sameness of their crops will inevitably lead to famine in the century after the next, if not several decades sooner. The nomads claim their difficulties are called down by the ancestors and that the Eternal Conqueror is too weak to preserve them, whereas the empire believe that the increased challenge of farming enough to subsist is a test of their strength and faith.

The palace is obvious enough, an intricately engraved and incredibly sturdy structure of mortared stone slabs three stories larger than the next biggest buildings, and your immaterial essence feels no need to bother getting through the diligent guards posted out-front. From there, ascertaining the location of the emperor is as easy as spotting the extremely tired, slightly scrawny mortal sitting on the uncomfortable but fancy chair in the spacious and well-lit central chamber. Pausing, it occurs to you that you don't have a throne, and furthermore, you aren't sure if you care but that's something to worry about later.

More important is searching this Capra's mind to see the truth of themselves.

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He's so sleep-deprived you reach in without the slightest difficulty, and soon pry into the deepest, darkest secrets of his psyche. Normally, invading someone's privacy isn't something you're fond of, but given that the fate of an entire plane may rest on his shoulders there's little reason not to. You discover the following in short order:

- The emperor's name is Cidran the XIV or 14th, and he was the fourth eldest son, expected to never sit on the throne, but the first two sons falling in battle and the third succumbing to a mysterious illness put rest to the notion. His intelligence is only poor-to-middling and his worldly experience is lacking to say the least, but his idealistic obsession with building what he calls a "worth-over-blood hierarchy" has made him rather difficult for the disparate noble clans to control. Moreover, as he's the only remaining universally-agreed-upon heir his assassination would cause a civil war that the empire couldn't afford in the face of the nomad hordes, and the feuding elements of the proto-aristocracy are hesitant to make an attempt to seat one of his cousins on the throne.
- He is pessimistic about the future, unsure whether he has what it takes to see his lofty ambitions through, and convinced that the instant the encroaching threat has been dealt with his head will roll. Before taking on the throne, he preoccupied his days attempting to chisel abstract geometric shapes out of stone slabs, half because the featureless steppe has led him to prize simplicity on a philosophical level and half because he isn't certain that his hands are worthy of representing the sapient form, be it mortal or divine. This took up enough time that he never bothered to marry and he didn't worry as he wasn't expected to, but now he refuses to wed any of the nobility for fear of allowing any one faction influence over the empire, and dread of the probable fate of any children upon his demise.
- Cidran doesn't hold any more than a token faith in the divinity of the Eternal Conqueror he's descended from and can't bring himself to accept myths of the (almost certainly true) supernatural without seeing them with his own eyes. Even so, he's desperate to have a higher power to rely on as he isn't sure he's capable of relying on himself to resist the machinations of the power-hungry conspirators within and the bloodthirsty raiders without for much longer. Being unwed and having little talent for violence, his reputation among the common people is low, worsened by the fact that his idea of "worth" corresponds to intellect and education rather than strength and martial prowess, something they've deemed hypocritical. His slender build comes far more from stress than blood, and you have no doubt that if it weren't for the religious connotations surrounding his position he would've been deposed long ago.

This is all intriguing and if nothing else, it's certainly more information to work with.

Before you go and examine the rising chieftain, what is your impression of the emperor?

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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #139 on: August 04, 2019, 01:12:49 am »

Before you go and examine the rising chieftain, what is your impression of the emperor?

Seems like a chap in need of some help.

Edit: I was gonna post an action here, but let's check out the rising chieftain first.
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« Reply #140 on: August 04, 2019, 04:20:29 am »

Now lets check out that chieftain.
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« Reply #141 on: August 04, 2019, 05:37:14 am »

It's clear that this man needs some motivational Powerpoint.
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #142 on: August 04, 2019, 06:26:23 am »

Before you go and examine the rising chieftain, what is your impression of the emperor?

He is a perhaps well-meaning, but nevertheless dangerous man goat-thing. His lofty ideals and dedication to "the greater good" cause him to overlook the suffering in his kingdom. He is self-conscious, but this consciousness does not seem to extend to his peons.

All the same... he would most likely take to our presence very well. Should we so choose, he'd prove a loyal follower.
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #143 on: August 04, 2019, 06:37:20 am »

Before you go and examine the rising chieftain, what is your impression of the emperor?

He is a perhaps well-meaning, but nevertheless dangerous man goat-thing. His lofty ideals and dedication to "the greater good" cause him to overlook the suffering in his kingdom. He is self-conscious, but this consciousness does not seem to extend to his peons.

All the same... he would most likely take to our presence very well. Should we so choose, he'd prove a loyal follower.

+1, we shall visit the chieftain and compare
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #144 on: August 04, 2019, 08:02:13 am »

He certainly seems ripe for exploitation, but would make a rather mediocre servant.
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #145 on: August 04, 2019, 09:04:13 am »

Before you go and examine the rising chieftain, what is your impression of the emperor?

He is a perhaps well-meaning, but nevertheless dangerous man goat-thing. His lofty ideals and dedication to "the greater good" cause him to overlook the suffering in his kingdom. He is self-conscious, but this consciousness does not seem to extend to his peons.

All the same... he would most likely take to our presence very well. Should we so choose, he'd prove a loyal follower.

+1, we shall visit the chieftain and compare
Agreed.
However, it doesn’t seem to me that he’s overlooking the suffering; he just doesn’t seem to know how to deal with it. He seems pretty self-conscious if his failings as a leader.
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« Reply #146 on: August 04, 2019, 10:03:03 am »

He certainly seems ripe for exploitation, but would make a rather mediocre servant.
Indeed. If we gave him a boon of cleverness like our previous prophet, I suspect he'd spend his intellect on discovering new ways to pity himself.
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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #147 on: August 04, 2019, 05:03:36 pm »

Assuming we choose to help this emperor ( not that we can't help both ) I feel like a journey of SELF-discovery is something we have to give him. A gift of raw intellect isn't as useful on this world, as it was in the Osterat one.

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« Reply #148 on: August 04, 2019, 05:46:09 pm »

Your feelings surrounding the emperor are mixed, to say the least, but you concede that he would be easy to convert to your worship or if you were so inclined, puppet. Ignoring the remainder of the empire for the moment, your unseen presence travels across the plane in search of the rising nomad lord, and even if finding his encampment across the vast expanse is more tedious than floating into the palace, it is a simple task and your patience far eclipses that of any mortal. When you see a radiant soul blazing from a bird's eye view inside an intricate yurt, you know that its occupant must be the one. Touching down on the grass, you enter the structure, careful to mask your presence, and pause at the sight of the figure the empire's aristocracy fears so much.

Barely six seasons older than the emperor himself, judging by the calluses and scars it's clear to see that he's lived an extremely difficult life, and even now, the fact that he has a dagger underneath the top of his leather bedspread speaks volumes. Its substance is copper, as are a handful of other weapons in his sleeping place, but your attention is drawn to something else entirely. What appears to be a longbow threaded with taut gutstring, a subtle presence fills the weapon and manifesting in physical form, you draw it with casual strength, find nothing out of the ordinary, and set it back where it was. Stricken by curiosity, you examine the implement of war and the slumbering warlord's mind alike in great detail, and are intrigued to find the following:

- The longbow's name roughly translates to "First Among Bows" and indeed, was the most successful of this warlike individual's attempts to improve on the slings so common to warfare here. Apparently, the concept of archery is in the process revolutionizing warfare, because prior to its invention, conflicts were generally fought by slinging stones on horseback, and charging into melee with flint or copper-bladed spears to fight the majority of opposition that didn't succumb to the ranged onslaught. This changed when the nomad, whose name is Phaedromus, made and mastered the bow, slayed his chieftain (and father, you note) in mortal combat, and spread it among his clan.
- His strategy of outranging the enemy with accurate projectiles and fleeing whilst shooting when pursued until the battle is won or routing with minimal casualties to try again later has led many of his kin to accuse him of cowardice, but its undeniable efficiency and his fearsome skill in single combat with a bone-handled, copper-headed mace has led many more to commend him for his cunning behind closed tent flaps. You find that his legend of his "mythical" weapon has begun spreading, and the reverence some nomads hold toward it has caused it to begun manifesting some little bit of the supernatural accuracy and force ascribed to it. The effect is nothing tangible, but by the time a decade has come to pass, it very well might be.
- Phaedromus himself is interesting, because he has minimal-to-no urge to amass territory and personal power, and finds conquest itself distasteful. Rather, the entirety of his illiterate but exceedingly sharp wit is consumed with cold hatred for the "weak complacency" of civilized people, fierce disdain for their submission to the throne's authority, and boiling rage for the fact that their ancestors were guilty of enslaving his ancestors into their "twisted, unnatural, and indecent" system. Aside from that, you are curious to note that while he openly claims that they support him, his subconscious is desperate to earn the approval of his forefathers and feels that the only way to do so is to burn and raze the same unsightly cities that their rawhide-bound hands erected.
- So far, he's killed twelve chieftains, thirteen counting his own in mortal combat, and slew sixteen more too prideful or cowardly to accept his challenge on the battlefield. He's gathered little under five thousand hardened warriors to his banner and shows no signs of stopping. Taking both his knack for frenzied oratory and strategy of mounted archery into account, you reason that if you don't intervene one way or another, his victory is far more likely than not, perhaps four-to-one odds in his favor.

This is all quite fascinating and you're glad for the broadened perspective, but you have a decision to make.

Which of the two do you want to side with?

A) The emperor, because the benefits of his wholehearted embrace of the fine arts and ideological firmness to improve his civilization's structure far outweigh the loss his sparse intellect.
B) The emperor, because even if he is weak-willed, weak-minded, and gained his throne through luck alone, his status alone makes him an excellent tool and he could be changed for the better in time.
C) The chieftain, because his unprecedented understanding of warfare and the weaponry and tactics within indicate a brilliant, if merciless mind that would be well-worth having on your side.
D) The chieftain, because his relentless ambition and unflinching willingness to act on it for the sake of his vision are inspiring, and you're confident you could sway his focus to more advantageous tasks in time.
E) Neither, each of the two are reprehensible in their own ways and you want nothing to do with their petty war, though you'll certainly take advantage of the chaos it causes.
F) Neither, each of the two are interesting in their own ways and you would much rather watch things play out as they were than formally pick one side or another.
G) Both, in that you'll attempt to negotiate a lasting peace agreement between the two through their dreams, generations-old factionalism be damned.
H) Both, in that you'll be giving each one a boon and converting them to your worship for the sake of spicing things up and assuring that you win either way.
I) None of these, you have another, far more clever plan. [Specify]

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Re: You are a Nascent Minor Deity (SG)
« Reply #149 on: August 04, 2019, 07:18:37 pm »

A

The emperor seems to mean well, in an incompetent kind of way. This chieftain very much does not.

I'd rather try to make the dumb guy smarter than try to make the cruel guy nicer. Personality seems to me a hard thing to sway.
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