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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1940 Cold Season
« Reply #480 on: September 06, 2020, 05:01:18 pm »

M2.2 Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle

A Revision of the Haaheo-B rifle, the Haaheo C rifle goes above and beyond to fix the rate of fire issues our soldiers have been experiencing. The battery is moved closer and reshaped to reduce charge time while maintaining balance, and the nickel "thread" has a widened cross-section to improve recharge time, resulting in an extremely fast recharge. As a result, the latch that previously held the firing pin from retriggering has been modified to have an "off" mode, allowing optional fully automatic fire from the weapon. Semi-auto is also much faster in cycling time.
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M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #481 on: September 06, 2020, 05:06:01 pm »

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (2) Powder Miner, Doomblade
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (1) Powder Miner
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (1) Doomblade
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #482 on: September 06, 2020, 05:24:47 pm »


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Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (2) Powder Miner, BBB
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (1) Doomblade
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #483 on: September 06, 2020, 05:43:07 pm »

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Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (1) Doomblade
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (0)
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #484 on: September 06, 2020, 05:51:16 pm »

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (4) Powder Miner, Doomblade, BBB, Twinwolf
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #485 on: September 06, 2020, 06:16:59 pm »

So, I noticed that we:re currently prioritizing refocyte ammunition over a working rail system. As such, I propose a modification:

PACT Rail Alloy

The other major issue present in the Pua is the high failure rate present in the machine gun. To improve the service life of our weaponry, we will re-formulate the rails. Firstly, the purity level of the rails will remain the same, as to not modify our force transfer calculations. However, the percentage of iron and carbon in the "impure" section will be increased for maximum hardness and reduced thermal expansion. Additionally, the rail changing methodology has been updated for ease of use. Now, instead of having to take apart much of the gun, by unscrewing a set of latches, the entire front of the gun (including the barrel and the return mechanism un-pins and can be pulled off, exposing the rails to be changed out. The back battery should be removed before doing this, but it's not mandatory. A small metal case containing rubber gloves, rubber tipped pliers, screwdriver, and cleaning brushes is attached to the bottom of the gun by the tripod assembly, for maintenance and service. With these changes, we should have to change out rails much less often, and have generally safer operation.

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (4) Powder Miner, Doomblade, BBB, Twinwolf
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (1) Doomblade
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
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Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (1) M1895
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #486 on: September 06, 2020, 06:43:56 pm »

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (4) Powder Miner, Doomblade, BBB, Twinwolf
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (2) Doomblade, m1895
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (1) m1895
Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (1) M1895
M1 AP "Wāwae Nalowale" and M1 AT "Ka'a Nalowale" Mines
the Wāwae and Ka'a are both immediate responses to the threat of Embralish assault while we're dealing with the Pact positions.
The Wāwae consists of a modified Ringa with a proper shrapnel belt and shorter timer, and a RPC connected to a tripwire acting as the base. This causes the warhead to be launched roughly 1 meter before detonation, giving it much greater lethality against Infantry than "nonbounding" Mines.
The Ka'a on the other hand, is a rubberized casing that can hold a 50mm Refocyte round and a really low purity RPP. It's activated by a miniaturized version of the 'Ohu Mameo's magnetic detector, though directly connected to the trigger instead of having a human in the loop. if development stalls out a pressure plate assembly weighted to not go off on infantry (unless they try to disarm it of course) will be used instead.
Some may ask, what use do these have in the mountains? Well, while it is difficult to dig into hard rock compared to mud or dirt, there's this stuff called "snow" that mines can be buried in, and given the limited paths in the mountains, a single mine is much more likely to be tripped.
If time allows, we'd like to look into using Refocyte Shrapnel in a rubber coated belt for the Wāwae. If time absolutely does not allow for much of anything, we'll do everything we can to save the Ka'a first and foremost.
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #487 on: September 06, 2020, 08:07:29 pm »

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (2) Doomblade, m1895
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (1) m1895
Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (2) M1895, Doomblade
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #488 on: September 09, 2020, 08:42:31 pm »

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (2) Doomblade, m1895
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (1) m1895
Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (1) Doomblade
M1 AP "Wāwae Nalowale" and M1 AT "Ka'a Nalowale" Mines: (1) m1895
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #489 on: September 09, 2020, 08:47:36 pm »

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (4) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf, Doomblade
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (1) m1895
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (1) m1895
Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (0)
M1 AP "Wāwae Nalowale" and M1 AT "Ka'a Nalowale" Mines: (2) m1895, Doomblade
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #490 on: September 11, 2020, 10:19:30 pm »

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Pua NeoRubber Project: (4) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf, Doomblade
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (3) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (1) m1895
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (1) m1895
Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (0)
M1 AP "Wāwae Nalowale" and M1 AT "Ka'a Nalowale" Mines: (1) m1895
Hau Kai Filter Life Update: (1) Doomblade

Hau Kai Filter Life Update

The Hau Kai is quite simply critical to our forces, but the amount of greenhouses we have to dedicate to charcoal making is out of hand. By reshaping the filter for longer life while maintaining easier breathing, as well as dipping the cloth elements of the filter in neutralizing agents, we aim to expand filter life, enabling us to significantly reduce the number of spare filters needed and free up more resources to equip more of our men with the masks.
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #491 on: September 12, 2020, 02:09:09 am »

enjoy, guys, lmao
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Pua NeoRubber Project: (4) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf, Doomblade
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (2) BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (1) m1895
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (1) m1895
Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (0)
M1 AP "Wāwae Nalowale" and M1 AT "Ka'a Nalowale" Mines: (2) m1895, Powder Miner
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #492 on: September 12, 2020, 02:17:13 am »

Quote from: Votebox
Pua NeoRubber Project: (4) Powder Miner, BBB, Twinwolf, Doomblade
Standardized Refocyte Bullets: (2) BBB, Twinwolf
PACT Rail Alloy: (1) m1895
M1.1 Mea Huaka'i Surface Traversal Set: (0)
M1 "Kahoa" Carriage-Mounted SFE: (0)
A1 Infantry Protective Plate Carrier: (0)
Soldier Quality of Life Improvements: (1) m1895
Haaheo-C Automatic Rifle: (0)
M1 AP "Wāwae Nalowale" and M1 AT "Ka'a Nalowale" Mines: (3) m1895, Powder Miner, Doomblade
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Inithar Thread / Revision Phase, 1941 Hot Season
« Reply #493 on: September 13, 2020, 11:16:48 pm »

G1 "Hāmare" Breakthrough Tank
The Hāmare is a heavy tank designed to smash through enemy fortifications in support of infantry on the assault.
 Coming in at roughly 39t, the Hāmare is quite a heavy tank, but when one factors in the 102mm front, 80mm side, and 40mm back armor this is a reasonable weight.

WIP

and now for something completely different
M1 "Hāmare" man portable anti-tank weapon
The M1 Hāmare, not to be confused with the G1 Hāmare, is a Pua derived antitank weapon system.
two of the rails have been removed, along with all of the mechanisms needed for automatic fire, the catapult is pulled back into position by a straight pull bolt. this may seem like a step back, but it reduces weight, cost, and doesn't notably lower RoF given it's ammo, an 80mm shell on a rod. this rod rests inside the "barrel" and is securely held by the catapult. It also had fins welded on the back to give it stability in flight over the roughly 225m effective range for AT duty (against bunkers and other fortified positions the effective range can either be much bigger or much smaller). now you may be wondering, which 80mm shell are we using? that is a stupid question, the smoke, HE and Refocyte rounds can all be put on a rod without compromising their utility, so why wouldn't we put them on rods?

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« Reply #494 on: September 18, 2020, 01:33:12 am »

Revision Phase, Cold Season 1940 AC

Proposal: Pua NeoRubber Project
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With the refocyte-smiths (especially the Kaimana brothers) more or less forced to take a backseat for the rest of the season after the results of their... overzealous work, representatives of an understated but vitally important Fellowship took the front stage this season: the Chemists' Fellowship. And not only did the Chemists' Fellowship take a front role, but the actual chemists themselves did, not mostly just the extremely aggrieved physicist members of the Chemists' Fellowship who are often critical in the background in calculating ballistics for the work of the more celebrity refocyte-smith members of the Grand Fleet Design Team.

Specifically, the post-mortem of the Pua 'Ula Pua revealed something interesting about it: though the refocyte mechanism-work is not flawless by any means, it itself is not actually untenable at all -- potentially somewhat unreliable on its own, but perfectly functional, granting the weapon many of the specifications it was actually designed for. Instead, a large portion of the weapon's issues come down to one other material: rubber. For the purposes we'd been using it for until now, rubber was sufficiently tough to withstand the motions it was being subjected to, especially since the Laweano only fires even now once every few seconds. But when dealing with dozens of repetitions per second, it tears and shreds, both leading to much of the gun's general maintenance issues and its little slamfire issue.

In response, the Chemists' Fellowship has simply begun work on a new rubber-like latex compound (where a latex is after all just a kind of emulsion of polymers). This new rubber, working off of theories that it is the latex structure of rubber that causes its interactions with refocyte rather than some sort of aspect of the rubber plant itself, is made through testing latexes made of many different combinations of polymers, until a substance is found that is dense, relatively unflexible, and above all has extreme tear resistance. Although this new kind of rubber would not necessarily be adequate for some purposes, such as the seals on gas masks, as it is rather stiff, its density, toughness, and tear resistance should go a long way towards solving two problems at once on the Pua 'Ula Pua, dealing with the slamfire issue and with much of the maintenance issues simply by not being destroyed by the operation of the gun.

Difficulty: Very Easy
Result: (6+4)+2=12, Unexpected Boon

Our Chemist's Fellowship has long been neglected by the Expedition. While not forgotten and by no means useless, they've largely worked in the background to help keep things moving forward. Today the spotlight is theirs.

We should first cover the intended results of their work.

NeoRubber-A is a pretty solid concept theoretically - some nonInitharian nations have been producing various synthetic rubber polymers for a few years now, so we knew it had to be fairly simple. And it was. NR-A [GM Note: fuck] is a synthetic copolymer rubber that offers much more compressive resistance and is half again as dense as the standard rubber we've been producing. NR-A is practically immune to standard wear and tear, and as it is a thermoset polymer, will not warp or degrade due to heat. The best part is the chemical compound used in NeoRubber-A is relatively inexpensive, keeping costs for deploying material with it from being impacted by it's use.

This means we've used the stuff in the Pua immediately, and it's durability means the cost for rubber in the weapon actually drops to 2 Oil (dropping it's cost to (EXPENSIVE)), as the stuff needs practically zero replacement outside of combat-related damage. This not only increases general reliability of the weapon, but also eliminates the nasty slamfire issue. The Pua sees it's fire rate settle at around 350 RPM after the upgrade. The Haaheo family of weapons also sees it's cost for rubber practically negated, as the small amount used in those weapons is now also NR-A as well.

But that's just NR-A's weapons use, and it's not the only thing to come out of our work this season. NR-B is another synthetic rubber produced by our Chemists this season. Unlike NR-A, NR-B is softer, though it's just as resilient. Obviously, the first application for our variety of of rubbers was Seasonal Tires. Any vehicle utilizing tires will now use the appropriate Seasonal Tires based on the environment. NR-A Tires will see use on flatter, harder terrain and will see the load limit of those vehicles rise by a not insignificant margin. NR-B Tires will see use in terrain with softer, slicker terrain like those damn Mudflats, as the tires will compress slightly to create more contact with the surface, improving traction and stability, though load limit does take a slight hit (though nothing we currently have will see a significant impact from that). Standard tires will still see use in more mixed terrain.


Proposal: M1 AP "Wāwae Nalowale" and M1 AT "Ka'a Nalowale" Mines
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The Wāwae and Ka'a are both immediate responses to the threat of Embralish assault while we're dealing with the Pact positions.
The Wāwae consists of a modified Ringa with a proper shrapnel belt and shorter timer, and a RPC connected to a tripwire acting as the base. This causes the warhead to be launched roughly 1 meter before detonation, giving it much greater lethality against Infantry than "nonbounding" Mines.
The Ka'a on the other hand, is a rubberized casing that can hold a 50mm Refocyte round and a really low purity RPP. It's activated by a miniaturized version of the 'Ohu Mameo's magnetic detector, though directly connected to the trigger instead of having a human in the loop. if development stalls out a pressure plate assembly weighted to not go off on infantry (unless they try to disarm it of course) will be used instead.
Some may ask, what use do these have in the mountains? Well, while it is difficult to dig into hard rock compared to mud or dirt, there's this stuff called "snow" that mines can be buried in, and given the limited paths in the mountains, a single mine is much more likely to be tripped.
If time allows, we'd like to look into using Refocyte Shrapnel in a rubber coated belt for the Wāwae. If time absolutely does not allow for much of anything, we'll do everything we can to save the Ka'a first and foremost.

Difficulty: Very Hard
Result: (1+1)-2=0, Utter Failure

We were going to work on mines this season, but in doing so we decided to check on the mines we had deployed asea already for extensive analysis on effectiveness of the various mechanisms. This was by no means necessary, and many deemed it to be a waste of time.

They were wrong.

Some of our engineers went diving near some Embralish wreckage near a minefield and were horrified by what they saw. Wellmoss had grown from the ruptures within the hull, coated the entire thing, and was slowly choking out the seabed around it. After extensive observation, it has been calculated that the Wellmoss' growth will most certainly have a negative impact on the local biosphere and environment, but shouldn't start encroaching on land for a good few years. Or, at least it'll be long enough that we should have won this war and the one at home by that time.

Still, this could give us some leverage against the Embralish should we ever enter negotiations.

Other than that...


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Well, this season has certainly been somewhat disappointing. We got some neat rubber out of our endeavors though. We shouldn't dwell on our shortcomings though, as it is now time to decide what resource node we fill, which two locations we will attack, and vote on what we will be doing with our newly-acquired Caelium resources. Remember, if you decide to export any Harren resources to home, you need to choose which Inithar-native resource you get in return. You also need to deploy your National Efforts! Remember - mountains are infantry-only outside of the landings.

IT IS NOW THE STRATEGY PHASE.

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