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Author Topic: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Final Phase, 1941 Cold Season  (Read 24788 times)

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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Design Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #150 on: December 13, 2019, 03:48:03 pm »

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(3) Submersible Engineered Aquatic Litter (SEAL) Diver Propulsion Vehicle and Rebreather: ConscriptFive, SC777, NUKE9.13
(1) Assault Diver Vehicle: Madman
They both look interesting, but the SEAL looks easier, while the ADV may have a somewhat higher performance on a good roll, I'd rather not risk screwing up.
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Design Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #151 on: December 13, 2019, 04:55:05 pm »

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(4) Submersible Engineered Aquatic Litter (SEAL) Diver Propulsion Vehicle and Rebreather: ConscriptFive, SC777, NUKE9.13, Strider
(1) Assault Diver Vehicle: Madman
Both interesting, but I kinda like the idea of single unit stealth units
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Design Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #152 on: December 13, 2019, 08:10:35 pm »

Both interesting, but I kinda like the idea of single unit stealth units
Inefficiency, though.
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Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Revision Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #153 on: December 25, 2019, 11:19:58 pm »

Design Phase, Hot Season 1939 AC

Proposal: Submersible Engineered Aquatic Litter (SEAL) Diver Propulsion Vehicle and Rebreather
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The SEAL is a manportable single passenger diver propulsion vehicle with an integrated rebreather system.  Able to steathily transport an elite combat swimmer from an offshore vessel to beachside and back again, the SEAL will harbinger a new era combat swimmer special operations.  From stealthy reconnaisance of potential landing zones, demolition of obstacles before an assault, infiltration of covert operatives, or even daring sabotage operations far behind enemy lines, the potential for special operations is limitless.

Tech-wise, the SEAL is a shortened Backstab II torpedo, re-engineered to safely transport a combat swimmer who must also manually control said torpedo.  Lighter and shorter than a full torpedo, the SEAL is manportable and difficult to spot with its small silhouette.  A swimmer being unable to steer a torpedo at full speed, the high speed internal combustion engine has been replaced with a low speed electric engine.  (Yes, voltaic cells have limited potential compared to the wonders of fossil fuels, but the lack of gaseous and auditory emissions are an acceptable trade for this application.)  The dorsal fins of the torpedo have been modified into a steering yoke.  Although the swimmer is also safety tethered to the torpedo, the swimmer is towed by his handholds on the yoke.  A small instrument panel including a battery gauge, dive watch, speedometer, and compass are highly visible from this position, allowing navigation via instruments.  The asymmetry of the dorsal swimmer is offset by a detachable "dry bag" duffel bag near the ventral fins.  The removable water-tight duffel allows a swimmer to bring ashore and back otherwise water-sensitive gear such as small arms, demolitions equipment, maps, documents, or even a full disguise for further infiltration.  Of additional utility, an adjustable ballast chamber and retractable anchor allows the SEAL to be safely secured later retrieval once the swimmer hits the beach.  Additional tie down points have been added to the exterior of the vehicle to aid in securing the SEAL to the exterior of a mothersub.

Barium hydroxide CO2 scrubbing canister and pressurized oxygen cylinder replace the fuze and warhead in the nose.  (Placing the these consumables in this easily removed assembly allows for rapid maintenance and refielding post mission.)  A hose with a mouthpiece runs the full interior length of the craft, providing an integrated rebreather for the combat swimmer towards the aft.

Of additional note, the propeller is cast well sap resin composite.  Beyond its inherent sound absorbing properties, this synthesized material can further improve the stealth of our vessels.  More flexible than metal, high strength well sap resin composite creates a "hydro elastic effect," reducing noisy cavitation at higher propeller speeds.  While possibly cost prohibitive on larger vessels, the low material use and power requirements of the SEAL make an idea testbed for experimental materials.

SEAL selected combat swimmers will receive a specialized uniform essential for SEAL operations.  Each man will be fitted with a rubbery wet suit, to provide a measure of warmth in cold dark waters.  His eyes will be protected with a pair of watertight goggles (aesthetically similar to the Sikari Mask MK.III).  His feet will be shod in hard rubber swim fins.  Should his rebreather fail, a basic snorkel is attached to the strap of his goggles.  When all else fails, a water-proof stainless steel dive knife is strapped to his leg.  The serrated dive knife also features a wire-cutting notch.

Difficulty: Hard Normal
Result: 2+1=3, Buggy Mess

The idea of a manned torpedo was originally laughed at. It wasn't understood why until the technicians and engineers returned with their interpretation of our ideas.

The SEAL DPV/R is a Backstab II with only the barest of modifications. The explosive warhead is removed and replaced with a dummy, and there's a small seat-shaped indent on the torpedo for the rider. The SEAL DPV/R can be secured to a ship or submarine's deck or towed behind it. The vehicle requires submersibles to surface in order to be removed, manned, and launched. The rider can control the direction of the torpedo, but only by a couple of degrees, through a joystick and relatively sloppy mechanical parts that are prone to failure.

A nozzle on the diver's mask can be attached to a port on the SEAL DPV/R to connect to the air supply. Unfortunately the entire assembly is riddled with issues, from punctured hoses to easily ruptured tanks to CO2 buildup due to faulty filters (which also leaves our divers needing some recovery time after extended trips, which, with the top speed of 3 knots, was most trips where the parent ship didn't want to be spotted).

The largest nail in the coffin was the attempted sap resin composite for the propeller. Steel-Sap Resin Composite proves to be too brittle for use, even after most of our development time and resources were dedicated to the creation of working propellers. Their sound-absorbing properties are also nearly nonexistent thanks to the permeation of steel throughout. While the resin being quite rigid and brittle hasn't proved to be an issue through it's use on our submarines, being an integral component of a part under occasional extreme stress and duress has unveiled the material's physical weakness. As a result, the propellers on the SEAL remain original.

The "volunteers" for infiltration via SEAL all get the same basic kit: a tight-fitting rubbery suit that did little to keep the water or cold out, goggles that provided distorted vision, swim fins that were tightened by straps that came loose during use, and a knife strapped to their leg that would also come undone during the course of swimming.

Overall, not that great.

They come at a cost of 4 Ore and 4 Oil, making them (CHEAP) even if they are near-useless.


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You've got one Revision this phase to fix any issues you may think you have, wherever they may be. You're also still responsible for providing submissions for the lore contest by the end of this turn! And pick your new trait!

IT IS NOW THE REVISION PHASE.

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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Revision Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #154 on: December 28, 2019, 12:29:53 pm »

Ouch...  at least we learned something about well resin.  Here's a fix revision.

Revision: SEAL and Rebreather Kit Reforms (SEA LARK)

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To say development on the SEAL and its associated kit was a disaster is a bit of an understatement.  Too much effort was spent experimenting with well resin as a composite material, resulting in horrifically cut corners everywhere else on the weapon system.  The SEA LARK Reforms are an attempt to correct the various craftsmanship and general QA/QC issues that plagued the end product.

The faulty SEAL controls, and rebreather system will undergo a durability study, followed by a QA/QC inspection regimen before delivery.  The low performance, ill-fitting suit will be fully re-tailored to create protective gear actually worth wearing.  The supplier who provided the inexplicably poorly crafted goggle lenses should be investigated for corruption, as failing such a simple order could only be explained by avarice or treason.  Fitting not distorted lens to the goggles should not be a tremendous issue.

Here's the one I had in mind before the design rolled so terribly...

Revision: Mamkirali-Niramata Amphibious Tracked Mortar Carrier

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The Mamkirali-Niramata Amphibious Tracked Mortar Carrier is the highly capable Mamkirali amphibious tracked chassis mated with a Niramata 105mm mortar system.  The intent is to recreate highly mobile LIES-capable light artillery for direct support to troops on assault.  Having a readily available light artillery system on standby should prove a boon to small unit leaders who must otherwise coordinate with Division HQ for heavier fire support.

The already open-topped cargo bay creates a suitable mortar pit for the mounted Niramata 105mm mortar.  Rangefinding optics have been added to the commanders cupola to aid in mortar operation.  Appropriate ammunition storage racks should also be added to the interior of the vehicle.

For cost reasons, the now superfluous wellquartz morale system has been removed from the vehicles, as well as one of the Musakila MG's.

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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Revision Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #155 on: December 28, 2019, 12:47:04 pm »

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Mark II-H Baza Heavy Fighter
Based on the Baza fighter, the Mark II-H adds armor plating and reinforcements in an effort to produce an aircraft capable of working closer to the Maelstrom and in worse wind conditions. It does so mostly by adding armor plates around the cockpit, engine, and a substantial amount of structural reinforcements throughout the plane. This all serves to increase weight, which decreases speed and maneuverability, but also decreases the amount of damage suffered in high winds and storm conditions and lessens the effects of wind on the aircraft's course and speed.

It is hoped that by doing this, we can produce an aircraft capable of operating close enough to the Maelstrom to provide ground attack against hostile landing attempts.

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Rogi Infantry Transport Variant
By removing the gun from a Rogi, its associated ammunition and adding some seats, we've managed to create a lightly armored but reasonably quick and agile troop transport for use with regular infantry units that should serve us fairly well in the assault role. The machinegun is retained, the armor is retained, the structure has been lightly modified as there's no more need of all the openings and attachment points or reinforcements necessary to fire a tank gun, but otherwise the vehicle is unchanged.

We expect to be able to carry about a squad's worth of guys in the Rogi, since four men clustered around a 50mm cannon takes up a lot more space than neatly arranged seats. It may be cramped, but being cramped being 20mm of steel is a lot nicer than being able to stretch out in the open, at least when the enemy might be firing on you.

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50mm Field Gun, Dismounted
The 50mm weapon from the Rogi placed on a carriage and a set of wheels and with an accompanying cart or two for the ammunition, this new field weapon is intended to provide soldiers with a more mobile support weapon that can (almost) keep up with the infantry, as it can be loaded up in a Mamkirali and manhandled about the battlefield by a team of soldiers, being much faster and easier to set up and use than a Havezara but still capable of doing a reasonable amount of damage to things the enemy would really prefer suffered no reasonable amounts of damage whatsoever.

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Hetham II-class Submarine
Based on the outdated Hetham, the Hetham-II is meant to be resistant to sonar. To accomplish this, the engine room's Wellsap plating is removed, and some plating is installed externally, to absorb sonar and make it much more difficult to detect. It is not fully plated with Wellsap and it does not reach the same level of sonar near-immunity as the Leviathan, but by putting the plates around the hull we can both muffle engine noise and incoming sonar waves, we can make the Hetham-II harder to detect, allowing us to regain some amount of surprise against the Initharians.


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SEA LARK: (0)
Mamkirali Niramata Amphibious Mortar Carrier: (0)
Rogi Infantry Transport Vehicle: (0)
50mm Field Gun: (0)
Hetham II-class Submarine: (1) Madman
« Last Edit: December 31, 2019, 09:28:13 am by Madman198237 »
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Revision Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #156 on: December 31, 2019, 09:32:24 am »

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SEA LARK: (1) ConscriptFive
Mamkirali Niramata Amphibious Mortar Carrier: (0)
Rogi Infantry Transport Vehicle: (0)
50mm Field Gun: (0)
Hetham II-class Submarine: (1) Madman

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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Revision Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #157 on: December 31, 2019, 10:23:01 am »

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SEA LARK: (1) ConscriptFive
Mamkirali Niramata Amphibious Mortar Carrier: (0)
Rogi Infantry Transport Vehicle: (0)
50mm Field Gun: (0)
Hetham II-class Submarine: (2) Madman, SC777
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« Reply #158 on: December 31, 2019, 01:58:06 pm »

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SEA LARK: (2) ConscriptFive, NUKE9.13
Mamkirali Niramata Amphibious Mortar Carrier: (0)
Rogi Infantry Transport Vehicle: (0)
50mm Field Gun: (0)
Hetham II-class Submarine: (2) Madman, SC777
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« Reply #159 on: December 31, 2019, 04:23:59 pm »

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SEA LARK: (3) ConscriptFive, NUKE9.13, Strider
Mamkirali Niramata Amphibious Mortar Carrier: (0)
Rogi Infantry Transport Vehicle: (0)
50mm Field Gun: (0)
Hetham II-class Submarine: (2) Madman, SC777
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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Revision Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #160 on: January 05, 2020, 05:32:12 pm »

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SEA LARK: (4) ConscriptFive, NUKE9.13, Strider, TFF
Mamkirali Niramata Amphibious Mortar Carrier: (0)
Rogi Infantry Transport Vehicle: (0)
50mm Field Gun: (0)
Hetham II-class Submarine: (2) Madman, SC777
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Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Strategy Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #161 on: January 10, 2020, 11:20:08 pm »

Revision Phase, Hot Season 1939 AC

Proposal: SEAL and Rebreather Kit Reforms
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To say development on the SEAL and its associated kit was a disaster is a bit of an understatement.  Too much effort was spent experimenting with well resin as a composite material, resulting in horrifically cut corners everywhere else on the weapon system.  The SEA LARK Reforms are an attempt to correct the various craftsmanship and general QA/QC issues that plagued the end product.

The faulty SEAL controls, and rebreather system will undergo a durability study, followed by a QA/QC inspection regimen before delivery.  The low performance, ill-fitting suit will be fully re-tailored to create protective gear actually worth wearing.  The supplier who provided the inexplicably poorly crafted goggle lenses should be investigated for corruption, as failing such a simple order could only be explained by avarice or treason.  Fitting not distorted lens to the goggles should not be a tremendous issue.

Difficulty: Normal Easy
Result: (3+3)+1=7, Average

The SEALARK Reforms definitely turn the SEAL from a cumbersome hindrance into an occasionally viable tool. Durable mechanisms are used for the control system to prevent breakdown during use, and range of control for the pilot is improved slightly (though not by much). Air hoses are tested for leaks prior to installation, tanks with thicker walls are utilized, and the production line for filters thoroughly analyzed and proper adjustments made to assure a quality product.

The suits were also redone, with a form-fitting rubbery suit that provided some, but not much, protection from icy waters, goggles that weren't seemingly made in a dark cave, and straps that will properly secure both the fins as well as the knife.

While the upgrades do add cost to producing the SEAL, at least it may prove to be more than a glorified death sentence. Producing the SEAL now costs us 6 Ore and 5 Oil, making it (VERY EXPENSIVE).


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As development of our new equipment comes to a close we now need to look towards the strait, and the enemies that lay across it. As always, you have the ability to choose (up to) Two Lanes to attack on and assign a resource to one of the Nodes in your territory.

Also, you have to select your new trait from the last Battle Report!

Double also, last chance to submit lore contest submissions in the Core Thread! Remember, it's supposed to be about the nonmilitary experience on Harren, and that an Espionage Credit is up for grabs!

IT IS NOW THE STRATEGY PHASE.

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Re: Mechanized Warfare: Embral Thread / Strategy Phase, 1939 Hot Season
« Reply #162 on: January 12, 2020, 10:18:05 pm »

Trait - I was tempted to pick the combat engineering one, but the SEAL didn't roll particularly well.  I also don't know who else wants to design obstacles besides myself.  As far as AP traps/mines we already have LIES, so I don't see us doing that again soon.  Old World Blues, (CQB tech) seems like a more versatile choice everyone can understand.  We also haven't done anything CQB yet.
Resource - If I'm counting right, ore would make our Havezara arty and Mamkirali tracked amphib vehicle cheap, knock LIES and SEAL down to expensive, and put most of our expensive vehicles one step away from cheap.  It's the broadest pick based on what we use right now.  Might as well stick it in the central hills.
Manuevers - Full Focus West.  Try to open maelstrom west before the Innies shut it down, then land across the western strait at the Northern Peaks again.  Hopefully the the SEALs will find a nice beach for our cheap Mamikirali to drop off cheap Havezara arty now.

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Trait:
(1) Old World Blues: ConFive
(0) Lasting Impressions:

Resource:
(1) Ore in Burning Hills: ConFive

Maneuvers:
(1) Full Focus West (W. Maelstrom and Northern Peaks): Confive

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« Reply #163 on: January 13, 2020, 03:57:39 pm »

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Trait:
(2) Old World Blues: ConFive, SC777
(0) Lasting Impressions:

Resource:
(1) Ore in Burning Hills: ConFive
(1) Wellmaterial in Burning Hills: SC777

Maneuvers:
(2) Full Focus West (W. Maelstrom and Northern Peaks): Confive, SC777

Leviathan:
(1) W. Maelstrom: SC777
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« Reply #164 on: January 13, 2020, 05:45:45 pm »

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Trait:
(3) Old World Blues: ConFive, SC777, Madman
(0) Lasting Impressions:

Resource:
(2) Ore in Burning Hills: ConFive, Madman
(1) Wellmaterial in Burning Hills: SC777

Maneuvers:
(3) Full Focus West (W. Maelstrom and Northern Peaks): Confive, SC777, Madman

Leviathan:
(2) W. Maelstrom: SC777, Madman
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