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SMS Fleet: Explodable (Kashyyk), Turtle (Naturegirl1999)

RN Fleet: Overgrown Torpedo Boat (Madman198237), Freedom II (1freeman), Virtually Sank Already (evictedSaint)

[Kashyyk]

SMS Explodable
Fire those Tertiaries at RN Freedom II

[Haspen]

SMS Explodable vs RN Freedom II:
DC4 Tertiary: 2+1-2-1+1+1 = 2 < 5, miss!
DC5 Tertiary: 4+1-2-1+1+1 = 4 < 5, miss!

Once more, shells struck water, not metal hull.

Spoiler: RN Overgrown Torpedo Boat (Madman198237) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 12/12 Rangefinding: SMS Expodable (-2) Quarter Speed
Tonnage: Light (-1 Enemy Hit)
Compartments:
DC1: Bridge Tower (Intact)
DC2: Main Battery (Intact) RELOADING: 1/1
DC3: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC4: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC5: Secondary Battery (Intact)
---
UC1: Torpedo Tubes (Intact, 0/4)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Intact)
UC3: Engine Room (Intact) + Diesel Engine
UC4: Ammo Magazine (Intact)

Spoiler: RN Freedom II (1freeman) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 7/12 SMS Explodable (+1) Quarter Speed (LOCKED)
Tonnage: Light (-1 Enemy Hit)
Compartments:
DC1: Main Battery (Intact) RELOADING: 1/1
DC2: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC3: Bridge Tower (Damaged) + Rangefinders Damage Control: 2/2
DC4: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC5: Secondary Battery (Damaged) RELOADING: 0/1
---
UC1: Torpedo Tubes (Intact, 0/4)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Intact)
UC3: Engine Room (Destroyed)
UC4: Ammo Magazine (Intact)

Spoiler: SMS Explodable (Kashyyk) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 4/15 Rangefinding: RN Freedom II (+1) No Bridge Penalty (-2)
Tonnage: Light (-1 Enemy Hit)
Compartments:
DC1: ...
DC2: Main Battery (Damaged) RELOADING: 1/2
DC3: Bridge Tower (Destroyed)
DC4: Tertiary Battery (Damaged)
DC5: Tertiary Battery (Intact)
---
UC1: ...
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Intact) + Armour Plating
UC3: Engine Room (Intact) + Diesel Engine + Armour Plating
UC4: ...

Spoiler: RN Virtually Sunk Already (evictedSaint) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 8/12 Rangefinding: SMS Explodable (+1) Quarter Speed
Tonnage: Medium
Compartments:
DC1: Bridge Tower (Intact) + Rangefinders + Armour Plating
DC2: Secondary Battery (Destroyed)
DC3: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC4: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC5: Main Battery (Damaged)
---
UC1: Torpedo Tubes (Intact, 2/4)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Intact) + Armour Plating
UC3: Ammo Magazine (Intact) + Armour Plating
UC4: Engine Room (Intact) + Diesel Engine + Armour Plating

SUNK:
Turn 4, sunk by RN Overgrown Torpedo Boat (via compartment flooding):

Spoiler: SMS Turtle (Naturegirl1999) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 3/27 Rangefinding: RN Virtually Sunk Already (+1)
Tonnage: Medium
Compartments:
DC1: Bridge Tower (Intact) + Rangefinders + Armour Plating + Armour Plating
DC2: Main Battery (Intact)
DC3: Tertiary Battery (Intact)
DC4: Secondary Battery (Destroyed)
DC5: Main Battery (Destroyed)
DC6: Tertiary Battery (Damaged) Damage Control: 1/2
---
UC1: Engine Room (Destroyed)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Destroyed)
UC3: Ammo Magazine (Destroyed)
UC4: Ammo Magazine (Destroyed)
UC5: Structural Bulk (Destroyed)

[evictedSaint]

Fire all secondaries, main cannon, and torpedo tubes at the Explodable.  Dacon Main Battery (not that it matters)

[Haspen]

RN V.S.A vs SMS Explodable:
DC5 Main: 4+1+1+1-1-1 = 5 => 5, hit! Comproll: 9, UC4 Empty Compartment is hit for 2 Damage!
DC3 Secondary: 2+1+1+1-1-1 = 3 < 5, miss!
DC4 Secondary: 4+1+1+1-1-1 = 5, hit! Comproll: 6, UC1 Empty Compartment is hit for 1 Damage!
UC1 Torpedo (1st): 1+1+1+1-1-1 = 2 < 5, miss!
UC2 Torpedo (2nd): 5+1+1+1-1-1 = 6 => 5, hit! Comproll: 2, UC2 Ammo Magazine is hit for 2 Damage and is Destroyed! 1 Armour Plating destroyed!
Ammo Magazine roll: 3, nothing happens.
SMS Explodable has been sunk by RN Virtually Sunk Already's attacks!

The barrage struck down SMS Explodable, and the torpedo gave the final explosion that tore the ship in two and sent it beneath the waves!

Spoiler: RN Overgrown Torpedo Boat (Madman198237) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 12/12 Rangefinding: SMS Expodable (-2) Quarter Speed
Tonnage: Light (-1 Enemy Hit)
Compartments:
DC1: Bridge Tower (Intact)
DC2: Main Battery (Intact) RELOADING: 1/1
DC3: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC4: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC5: Secondary Battery (Intact)
---
UC1: Torpedo Tubes (Intact, 0/4)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Intact)
UC3: Engine Room (Intact) + Diesel Engine
UC4: Ammo Magazine (Intact)

Spoiler: RN Freedom II (1freeman) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 7/12 SMS Explodable (+1) Quarter Speed (LOCKED)
Tonnage: Light (-1 Enemy Hit)
Compartments:
DC1: Main Battery (Intact) RELOADING: 1/1
DC2: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC3: Bridge Tower (Damaged) + Rangefinders Damage Control: 2/2
DC4: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC5: Secondary Battery (Damaged) RELOADING: 0/1
---
UC1: Torpedo Tubes (Intact, 0/4)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Intact)
UC3: Engine Room (Destroyed)
UC4: Ammo Magazine (Intact)

Spoiler: RN Virtually Sunk Already (evictedSaint) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 8/12 Rangefinding: SMS Explodable (+1) Quarter Speed
Tonnage: Medium
Compartments:
DC1: Bridge Tower (Intact) + Rangefinders + Armour Plating
DC2: Secondary Battery (Destroyed)
DC3: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC4: Secondary Battery (Intact)
DC5: Main Battery (Damaged) RELOADING: 0/2 Damage Control: 0/2
---
UC1: Torpedo Tubes (Intact, 0/4)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Intact) + Armour Plating
UC3: Ammo Magazine (Intact) + Armour Plating
UC4: Engine Room (Intact) + Diesel Engine + Armour Plating

SUNK:
Turn 4, sunk by RN Overgrown Torpedo Boat (via compartment flooding):

Spoiler: SMS Turtle (Naturegirl1999) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: 3/27 Rangefinding: RN Virtually Sunk Already (+1)
Tonnage: Medium
Compartments:
DC1: Bridge Tower (Intact) + Rangefinders + Armour Plating + Armour Plating
DC2: Main Battery (Intact)
DC3: Tertiary Battery (Intact)
DC4: Secondary Battery (Destroyed)
DC5: Main Battery (Destroyed)
DC6: Tertiary Battery (Damaged) Damage Control: 1/2
---
UC1: Engine Room (Destroyed)
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Destroyed)
UC3: Ammo Magazine (Destroyed)
UC4: Ammo Magazine (Destroyed)
UC5: Structural Bulk (Destroyed)

Turn 6, sunk by RN Virtually Sunk Already:

Spoiler: SMS Explodable (Kashyyk) (click to show/hide)

Hull Points: -1/15 Rangefinding: RN Freedom II (+1) No Bridge Penalty (-2)
Tonnage: Light (-1 Enemy Hit)
Compartments:
DC1: ...
DC2: Main Battery (Damaged) RELOADING: 1/2
DC3: Bridge Tower (Destroyed)
DC4: Tertiary Battery (Damaged)
DC5: Tertiary Battery (Intact)
---
UC1: ...
UC2: Ammo Magazine (Destroyed)
UC3: Engine Room (Intact) + Diesel Engine + Armour Plating
UC4: ...

TEAM RN (Madman198237, freeman1 and evictedSaint) win the Battle!

Well, as I said, the game needs a rehaul.

I will be upping or changing Tonnage, probably raising cost of ship while also adjusting things.

Dunno when it will be done, but don't worry, I will bump the thread when ready!

[evictedSaint]

This was fun! Thanks for running it, Haspen.  I would love to be part of the next game.

[Madman198237]

It was, though admittedly I was hoping eS was going to miss so I could get the kill

[Naturegirl1999]

It was fun for me also, I would love to join the next game

[Maxinum McDreich]

I'll always be down for this. Such a fun system.

[1freeman]

Thanks for running this game Haspen, I definitely want in on the next game.

[Jilladilla]

Mmm. I'll be continuing to watch this eagerly, Haspen.

[Taricus]

Yeah, the SMS bonus really needs a tweak. Currently as it stands the costs of their ships massively spikes if you want to actually take advantage of their team bonuses, and they have to pay more for vital components as well.

[Haspen]

Revised so far:

Ships now cost more; 72 Cruiser, 95 Pre-Dread, 150 Dreadnought, 205 Battleship (new class), whilst Compartments only a bit pricer.
Restricted guns: Main Batteries at Pre-Dread and higher, Heavy Batteries (4dmg, 2 turn reload) on Battleships only, mains&heavies also come with number limitation.
Tonnage adjusted; Light (under 150) gives -1 enemy hit, Medium (151-280) +2 HP, Heavy (above 280) +1 enemy hit but also +4 HP. Max Tonnage per ship is now 450.
Compartments now equally divided top and under: 4 for Cruisers, 5 for Pre-Dreads, 6 for Dreads and 7 for Battleships.



...I'm also considering starting SPAMDESIGNER or some such, which would use Battelships! thingies and SPAMKINGDOM format to play a singplayer Arms Race thing. Such an unholy blend can be nothing else but wondrous or a disaster.

[evictedSaint]

Interesting; how does a heavy ship compete against two lighter ships with same point values?

[Haspen]

Ah yes I forgot to release all da ruls.

Spoiler: Rules, Tonnage (click to show/hide)

TONNAGE:

Lighter ships and heavier ships behave differently in the water, and have different sailing (and maneuvering) speeds.

To represent this, Tonnage mechanic grants certain bonuses and penalties.
Light: Under 150 Resources. Grants -1 Hit penalty for enemies targeting this ship.
Medium: 151 to 280 Resources. Grants +2 to Hull Points of this ship.
Heavy: More than 280 Resources. Grants +4 to Hull Points of this ship but also +1 Hit bonus for enemies targeting this ship.

The largest amount of Resources that can be spent on a single ship is 450 Resources.

Spoiler: Ships and Compartments (click to show/hide)

ARMORED CRUISER:

Cost: 72 Resources
Base Hull Formula: Total Used Compartments + 5
Maximum Compartments: 4 Deck, 4 Under.

PRE-DREADNOUGHT:

Cost: 95 Resources
Base Hull Formula: 1 + (Total Used Compartments x 2)
Maximum Compartments: 5 Deck, 5 Under.

DREADNOUGHT:

Cost: 150 Resources
Base Hull Formula: 10 + (Total Used Compartments x 2)
Maximum Compartments: 6 Deck, 6 Under.

BATTLESHIP:

Cost: 205 Resources
Base Hull Formula: 12 + (Total Used Compartments x 3)
Maximum Compartments: 7 Deck, 7 Under.

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DECK COMPARTMENTS:

Bridge Tower: A vital part for command and fire control on the ship.
Cost: FREE (1st) 30 Resources (2nd and more).
*Intact: Player can issue Commands.
*Damaged: Player can issue Commands. -1 to Hit of all Batteries.
*Destroyed: Player CANNOT issue Commands. -2 to Hit of all batteries.
**Special: In case of multiple Bridge Towers, only the 'lowest' damage modifier is applied (so if you have 1 Intact and 1 Destroyed Bridge Tower, you can still issue Commands to your ship).

Main Battery: A large battery of heavy guns. Deals 2 Damage on successful Hit. Cannot be mounted on Armoured Cruisers. Max 3 per ship.
Cost: 20 Resources.
*Intact: Attacks every 2 Turns.
*Damaged: Attacks every 3 Turns.
*Destroyed: Cannot Attack.

Heavy Battery: A triple battery of heavy guns. Deals 4 Damage on successful Hit. Can be only mounted on Battleships. Max 2 per ship.
Cost: 25 Resources.
*Intact: Attacks every 2 Turns.
*Damaged: Attacks every 3 Turns.
*Destroyed: Cannot Attack.

Secondary Battery: A smaller battery with faster reload times. Deals 1 Damage on successful Hit.
Cost: 15 Resources
*Intact: Attacks every Turn.
*Damaged: Attacks every 2 Turns.
*Destroyed: Cannot Attack.

Tertiary Battery: The smallest cannon available, able to pin-point fast-moving targets. Deals 1 Damage on successful Hit, but cannot destroy Armour Plating.
Cost: 15 Resources
*Intact: Attacks every Turn. Not affected by enemy Evasive Maneuvers.
*Damaged: Attacks every Turn.
*Destroyed: Cannot Attack.

UNDER COMPARTMENTS:

Ammo Magazine: Feeds ammo to the ship's guns.
Cost: 20 Resources
*Intact: Up to 2 Batteries can fire per Turn.
*Damaged: Only 1 Battery can fire per Turn.
*Destroyed: No Batteries can fire, unless another Ammo Magazine is operational.
**Special: Whenever Magazine receives Damage, there's 1 in 4 chance that stored ammo will ignite and explode, dealing 2d6 damage to the Ship's Hull, and destroying the Ammo Magazine.
**Special2: After all Ammo Magazines are Destroyed, the Player can fire only 1 Battery per 2 Turns, no matter its type (Reloading is still accounted for).

Engine Room: Provides power to the ship's turbines. At least 1 is required.
Cost: FREE (1st), 32 Resources (2nd and more)
*Intact: -
*Damaged: +1 to Enemy Hit chances against this Ship.
*Destroyed: +1 to Enemy Hit chances against this Ship. Ship becomes locked in 'Quarter Speed' Command.
**Special: In case of multiple Engine Rooms, only the 'lowest' damage modifier is applied (so if you have 1 Intact and 2 Destroyed Engine Rooms, enemy still gets no Hit bonus against you).

Structural Bulk: Cheap, reinforced compartment that provides extra Hull Points to the ship.
Cost: 5 Resources
*Intact: -
*Damaged: -
*Destroyed: -

Torpedo Tubes: A system of two launching tubes as well as a magazine of 4 torpedoes. Each Torpedo deals 3 Damage, but can only hit Under Compartments (UCs). Can only be mounted on Armoured Cruisers and Pre-Dreadnoughts.
Cost: 25 Resources
*Intact: Allows launching of up to 2 Torpedoes every 2 Turns.
*Damaged: Allows launching of up to 2 Torpedoes every 3 Turns.
*Destroyed: Torpedoes cannot be launched.
**Special: Can only be placed in 1st Under Compartment (UC1). Torpedoes cannot be launched when the Ship is performing Evasive Maneuvers.
**Special2: Whenever Tubes receive Damage, there's 1 in 4 chance that stored ammo will ignite and explode, dealing 2d6 damage to the Ship's Hull, and destroying the Torpedo Tubes. This can occur only if the Tubes have at least 1 Torpedo still inside.

COMPARTMENT EXTRAS:

Rangefinders: Sophisticated mechanical clocks used to provide better fire control of the ship's batteries.
Cost: 30 Resource
*Base Compartment: Bridge Tower
**Effect: +1 to Hit Rolls of all Batteries (does not stack).
***Special: No bonus provided when Base Compartment is Destroyed. Each Bridge Tower can hold only 1 Rangefinder.

Analogue Calculator: Computation device that helps in determining enemy vessel's current speed and course based on previous rangefinding calculations.
Cost: 30 Resource
*Base Compartment: Bridge Tower
**Effect: Changing targets reduces Rangefinding bonus by 1 point instead of resetting it to -2.
***Special: No bonus provided when Base Compartment is Destroyed. Each Bridge Tower can hold only 1 Analogue Computer.

Armour Plating: Thick armor used to protect vital parts of the ship from damage and destruction.
Cost: 15 Resource
*Base Compartment: Any
**Effect: When Base Compartment is hit, 1 Damage is nullified and Armour Plating is destroyed.
***Special: Each Base Compartment can have only 2 Armour Platings equipped at once.

Diesel Engine: High-power diesel engine, increasing potential cruising and maneuvering speed of the battleship.
Cost: 24 Resource
*Base Compartment: Engine Room
**Effect: -1 to Enemy Hit chances against this Ship (does not stack).
***Special: No bonus provided when Base Compartment is Destroyed. Each Engine Room can hold only 1 Diesel Engine.

Spoiler: Fleet Bonuses (click to show/hide)

Every member of a Team must agree to use the Fleet Bonus and the Prefix. Otherwise, entire Team uses no Team Bonus and can attach whatever (except those listed) Prefix they want to their ship.
Team Bonuses are exclusive; if Team A picks Liberty and Freedom (for example), Team B cannot pick that Bonus anymore.

Académie de Génie Nautique et des Sciences Océanographiques
Team prefix: MF
Rangefinders and Diesel Engines cost 33% less Resources.
+1 Damage Control team extra.

Cordite RDC Ultra
Team prefix: HMS
Ammo Magazines can support 3 Batteries each (Damaged support 2).
Increases chance of suffering Ammo Magazine Explosion to 1 in 3.
Main and Heavy Batteries cost 20% less Resources.

Eisenmänner und Eisenschiffe
Team prefix: SMS
+4 Hull Points extra.
Armour Plating costs 33% less Resources.
Engine Rooms and Bridge Towers cost 25% more Resources.
Dreadnoughts and Battleships cost 20% less Resources.

Liberty and Freedom
Team prefix: USS
-2 Resource discount on All Ships, Compartments and Extras.

David contro Gollia
Team prefix: RN
-2 Hull Points penalty.
Torpedo Tubes and Secondary Batteries cost 20% less Resources.
Armoured Cruisers cost 25% less Resources.

[evictedSaint]

I still think the fleet bonuses need a tweak, but the changes seem solid thusfar.

Bigger, more expensive ships get more powerful tools and longer staying time.  Players are encouraged to kit out their ships, and smaller ships become less cost-efficient. The Analogue Calculator in particular is a great addition - it helps even the power imbalance from "Lots of Little Ships" vs "Few Big Ships".

I'd have to mock up a few test ships, though, to get a good feel for how the ships would compete.