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Khang36

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Re: AIAR -Providence Seekers-Turn 1-Summer 1921-DR Phase
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2019, 08:21:22 pm »

hm.... if i were to make a new design that uses say the .30-06 would i need to reverse engineer it first or will the design also get me that cartridge too?
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Re: AIAR -Providence Seekers-Turn 1-Summer 1921-DR Phase
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2019, 07:49:07 pm »

 Answered in the discord, but due to low cross-population...


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Clarification: Design of ammunition is separate from design of weapon using it. It may be designed at the same time, but projects using it willnot complete (or really be able to progress) until the ammunition is completed.
This is mentioned in paragraph 3, sentence 2 of "On Designs & Revisions"
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Re: AIAR -Providence Seekers-Turn 1-Summer 1921-DR Phase
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2019, 11:53:34 pm »

I figure, I may as well post what i have so far, not sure if my revision is valid but it is essentially modifying the 6.5x54 MS to a slightly weaker 6.5×55mm Swedish

I will add a design once a get a response on whether the revision is valid
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8×50mmR Lebel(Berthier,CSRG 1915) = 1 token
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6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer
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6.5x54mm preserver

6.5x54mm preserver is a modification of the famed 6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer cartridge. The revision replaces the old round nosed bullet with a new one that has a pointed tip and a slightly tapered base to improve air drag allowing the bullet to retain speed and energy better. additionally the diameter of the case had been widened to 12mm to allow an increase in the propellant load for a bit more MV and power.

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Re: AIAR -Providence Seekers-Turn 1-Summer 1921-DR Phase
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2019, 05:55:52 pm »

It would be a revision, but result in a totally new round that would, at least, require new bolts and thus receivers for all weapons to use it.
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Re: AIAR -Providence Seekers-Turn 1-Summer 1921-DR Phase
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2019, 09:32:01 pm »

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8×50mmR Lebel(Berthier,CSRG 1915) = 1 token
10cm ammo(10cm M.14 Feldhaubitze)
6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer
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6.5x54mm preserver

6.5x54mm preserver is a modification of the famed 6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer cartridge. The revision replaces the old round nosed bullet with a new one that has a pointed tip and a slightly tapered base to improve air drag allowing the bullet to retain speed and energy better. additionally the diameter of the case had been widened to 12mm to allow an increase in the propellant load for a bit more MV and power.


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CSRG 1921 6.5 preserver

The CSRG 1921 is a modification of the original CSRG 1915 to rechamber them for the new 6.5mm preserver cartridge and to make some. Additionally changes are made to improve reliability such as removing the side cutout in the magazine and increasing tolerances to prevent the gun from jamming due to over heating.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2019, 09:35:52 pm by Khang36 »
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Re: AIAR -Providence Seekers-Turn 1-Summer 1921-DR Phase
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2019, 08:25:08 am »

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8×50mmR Lebel(Berthier,CSRG 1915) = 1 token
10cm ammo(10cm M.14 Feldhaubitze)
6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer
CSRG 1915
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6.5x54mm preserver

6.5x54mm preserver is a modification of the famed 6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer cartridge. The revision replaces the old round nosed bullet with a new one that has a pointed tip and a slightly tapered base to improve air drag allowing the bullet to retain speed and energy better. additionally the diameter of the case had been widened to 12mm to allow an increase in the propellant load for a bit more MV and power.


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CSRG 1921 6.5 preserver

The CSRG 1921 is a modification of the original CSRG 1915 to rechamber them for the new 6.5mm preserver cartridge and to make some. Additionally changes are made to improve reliability such as removing the side cutout in the magazine and increasing tolerances to prevent the gun from jamming due to over heating.
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2019, 07:08:47 pm »

WARM SEASON, 1921, DR Phase

 Reports on the effort expended to make plans for various pieces of equipment and modified versions of some has come in, and are as follows.
 
 Locally produced 8x50mmR Lebel is well on its way to being complete, and will be finished in the cold season. It is reported to be identical to what came out of the French arsenals.
 
 Work on 10cm ammunition for our Feldhaubitze has hit snags in work, but will be done in turn for the cold. As a whole, the locally produced rounds are of distinctly lower quality, but absolutely consistent in this quality. Field teams charged with testing the rounds report that crews will need to relearn how to range the guns as a result, but that the guns will actually be more accurate.
 
 Work on 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schönauer has had similar effects; the rounds are of lower quality, more consistant, and will be in mass production come the cold.
 
 The CSRG 1915, a gun designed to be built in a bicycle shop, has proved tricky for our teams to reverse engineer, perhaps due to the inherent slop of the design. In any event, our copy is of roughly the same quality, probably more difficult for us to produce than it was for the French, still being finalized, and reportedly has a few more quirks than the original, mostly in regards to maintaining the weapon.
 
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 Two out-and-out revisions where worked on, a variant of the 6.5x54mm MS and a CSRG knockoff chambered for it.
 
 The 6.5x54mm P is almost a new round, incorporating new bullet and larger-diameter case. While now in production and generally reliable, the round is of lower quality, with thin case walls and sometimes inconstant shape of the projectile, which is now a spitzer boat-tailed design of longer length inorder to maintain sectional density. Overall, the round has a longer range with a flatter trajectory.
 
 The CSRG M1921, chambered for 6.5x54mmP is in most respects a standard Chauchat, retaining the horrid ergonomics of the original while mitigating some of the issues with dirt and debris. The main changes are in the bolt, chamber, and magazine, with the chambering of 6.5x54mmP requiring new magazines, the gun has gone from a single-stack design to a new magazine of... interesting construction. Efforts to fix the overheating problems have not been able to be fixed, but the problem(thermal expansion of aluminum parts in the barrel assembly) have been reliably pinpointed.
 Taking the form of a detachable rotary magazine, the CSRG M1921 magazine holds some twenty rounds and is designed to be reloaded while on the weapon from 5-round stripper clips. Gun teams are expected to be issued some seven magazines and perhaps four hundred rounds of ammunition in clips.
 The design will be finalized for production in turn for the cold season.
 
 
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2019, 12:12:06 pm »

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The scryery ritual is a ritual that allows a user to use a mirror, bowl of water, or any other refective surface to remotely see people and places. After creating a point of view at the target a caster free move thier POV around for better intel gathering or have it follow a moving target at a fixed possition relative to the target.
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2019, 03:25:04 pm »

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scryery ritual

The scryery ritual is a ritual that allows a user to use a mirror, bowl of water, or any other refective surface to remotely see people and places. After creating a point of view at the target a caster free move thier POV around for better intel gathering or have it follow a moving target at a fixed possition relative to the target.
÷1 this will be useful for spying
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2019, 04:17:03 pm »

 Any objections? If not, turn will be locked in tomorrow.
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2019, 05:06:13 pm »

I think we are good
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2019, 05:38:04 pm »

No objections
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2019, 05:46:39 pm »

 Given both of yall voted fer it, I would hope yall lack objections.
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2019, 05:49:32 pm »

Yes, are there other team members! If not, why did you ask about objections?
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Re: AIAR - Providence Seekers - Turn 1 - Warm Season 1921 - RE Phase
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2019, 06:39:55 pm »

 Pavellius, Shadowclaw, and Rockeater are still yer team members.
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