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[Taricus]

Save Three dice: (2) Jerick, Taricus

[ConscriptFive]

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[Maxim_inc]

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[VoidSlayer]

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So maybe that light-medium cruiser and a torpedo boat?  Escort vessels for shipping seems like a good base for a navy since they can function to escort larger ships later as well.

[Doomblade187]

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[piratejoe]

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It is now the Design Phase of Pre game Turn 2. You have 9 dice remaining to spend on Revisions or Save for the next turn.

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Naval
Early 2/3/4/5/6/7/9/10/12 inch guns
Triple-expansion engines.
Steel hull construction.
Single Casemates.
Single and Double gun turrets.
Basic Steel making techniques.
Basic Damage control techniques.
Mjolnir Class Self Propelled Torpedo (Reliable torpedo capable of 600 yards at 26 knots. A somewhat noisy, but leaves no wake.)

Marines & Installations
Defensive guns (Uses same calibers as naval guns)
Vetlesen Ironbone 83 (Basic Bolt Action Rifle)
Halfdan & Ivar Model 6 (Basic Revolver)

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Spoiler: Land Instillation's, Schools, & Dock Size (click to show/hide)

4,000 Displacement Dry docks.

[Taricus]

Viking Class Light (Armoured) Cruiser
Given the need for an armoured cruiser of some form for our navy to be successful, the Viking is our first vessel designed to operate as a capital ship, even if it's barely at the displacement limit for the current shipyards we have. Displacing at roughly 3,900 tons, the Viking has both belt and deck armour as befitting an armoured cruiser, if more to protect from smaller calibre shots than the two 152mm (6 inch) guns mounted in a single double turret on the bow. The Viking also features a defensively-oriented layout, ensuring that even if a shot gets through it's armour the damaged should be lessened. Furthermore, the Viking has a set of 6 3-inch guns as a secondary armament, all in turrets with two turrets on the sides of the ship, and two guns mounted in a twin mount on the rear of the ship. Furthermore, a pair of torpedo launchers on the bow gives the Viking a hell of a punch in close quarters.

Intended to reach a top speed of roughly 18 knots (if not more), the Viking is an impressive, modern cruiser which the nation can rally around.

Reposting this for the new turn.

[Khang36]

Hi pirate do we have an idea of the the ballistic capacity of our 6 inch guns?

Taricus an important thing to consider is that at 4000 tons we will not be able to make an armourd cruiser that can resist 5 inch guns with out making the ship realy short legged or slower.

Ideally i would suggest making the Viking a protected cruiser and up the main guns to 8, twin bow and aft 4 single guns as wing turrets giving us a full broadside of 6 guns and hopfully enough protexction to resist her own 6 inch guns.

[Taricus]

It's a light cruiser; we won't be able to fit an 8 inch gun on anything that displacement without it becoming a monitor completely. Anything with a gun larger than 6 inches is going to either be vulnerable or very much slower.

[Khang36]

No what i meant was increase the number of guns to 8 not 8 inches 

[Taricus]

Oh. Not really worth it, given that it's primary utility is the 6 inch cannons it has on such a light frame for the time period.

[Khang36]

So i made two ship design proposals i have no idea if my proposals are over or under estimating what we can do with 4000 tons

project A protected cruiser proposals

cruiser A1-class
The A1 class is a proposal for a 3500~4000 tons cruiser that will serve as a general work horse of the navy. The A1 is to be armed with 10×6 inch guns in single mounts, one located on the bow, and aft, and 4 on each wing, 8×3inch with 4 on each wing and two submerged torpedo launcher on the port and starboard side of the ship. Each of the 6 inch guns are protected by a gun shield thick enough to be immune to direct hits of her own guns. Unlike the Viking class A1 is a protected cruiser relying on it's sloped deck armour to protect it's critical areas and coal bunkers to mitigate any damage that occurs above the deck armour. The deck armour is to be thick enough to resist her own guns. The top speed of this class is intended to be atleast 16 knots.

A2

The A2 is a proposal for a cruiser in the 2000~3000 ton range that will serve as a scouting/commerce raider. A2 is to be armed with 8 4 inch guns 2 twin turrets on the bow and aft and 4 in single turrets 2 on each wing and 4 submerged torpedo launchers 2 in the port and starboard side each. In terms of the protection like the A1 it is a protected cruiser with a sloped deck armour to protect critical areas but unlike the A1 the deck armour is only thick enough to protect against it's own 4 inch guns. All turrets have gun shields that can protect the guncrews from direct hits of her own guns. The top speed of this design is intended to be atleast 20 knots.

[Maxinum McDreich]

A quick look at actual ships near that time period and weight tells me a ship with 2 to 4 turreted 8 inch guns is quite fine, with 6, 6inch guns, 3 on each side in the old cannon style side on. There would be, afterall, 3 armoured chimneys in the middle rather than just a flat deck. There were QUITE A FEW of the really small guns though, including 5 barreled gatling configurated 2 inchers. Dunno how closely we're going with history on this, but I'm gonna use it as an indicator until more info from the gm comes along. Actually, when I looked at those ships, it's quite astonishing how quickly technology actually advanced from then to 1905 even. The turrets were more just oversized cannons than the armoured turrets we associate with these days. Last thing is these ships I found tended to have top speeds of 16 knots.

I only glanced around mind. Like, a 10 minute looksie, so who knows what else was out there. For now though, I think a warship with 2 8inch turrets with 6 6inchers, 3 on each side and a few defensive guns of 1 to 3 inches would be a reliable ship for 4000 or so tons. I'd write that up properly, but it's late and I just wanted to leave my 2 cents.

[VoidSlayer]

Considering our smaller displacement a torpedo boat would be a good build and we could probably make quite a few for coastal defense.

Not sure if some kind of fast destroyer with several tubes or a larger torpedo cruiser would be better.

[Khang36]

Ok so here is a simple design for a torpedo boat.

T1 class torpedo boat

The T1 is a proposal for a 200ton torpedo boat. Her primary armament are 3 torpedo tubes in swivel mounts 2 in forward wing positions which should allow the torpedos to be able to be launch at almost forward angles and one in the aft section of the boat. Additionally she is armed with a single 3 inch gun on a pedestal mount at the bow and 2 2 inch guns as port and starboard wing mounts. The T1 is virtually un armoured with only some light plating around her engineering space to protect her engines from small arms fire and light canons(think 2 pounders and the like), relying on her small size and high speed to avoid enemy fire. The boat is to have a top speed of at least 24 knots.