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Author Topic: XCOM Arms Race II : VIGILO CONFIDO  (Read 14260 times)

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Re: XCOM Arms Race II : VIGILO CONFIDO
« Reply #105 on: July 03, 2019, 01:01:21 pm »

Note for GM: Looks like the equipment list has the old TACTICS price. Also, there's a listing for Close Combat Specialist but the Engineer is unlisted. Also, no listed price for the drone.

Quote from: Operation: Vengeful Line
1 Raven Interceptor (1 VP)

1 Skyranger, Designation Albatross (1 VP)
-1 Operator w/ 1 Engineer (2+1 UP)
--1 TACTICS (.5 EP)
--1 "Guardian" Turret (.75 EP)

1 Skyranger, Designation Blackbird (1 VP)
-1 Operator w/ 1 Close Combat Specialist (2+1 UP)
--1 TACTICS (.75 EP)
--1 Breaching Charge (1 EP)


Orders:
The Interceptor intercepts the craft heading to India in an attempt to down or destroy it before it can land.
Albatross deploys to South Africa to assess and engage the enemy threat with a secondary objective of capturing one of those boxes.
Blackbird deploys to Canada to engage the alien forces, focusing on the UFO as opposed to any roaming parties.


This may spread us out a little bit, but our dudes aren't basic bitches and I doubt this early on that a force spread across four locations will be significant numbers-wise. By sending a unit with an Engineer to the thing in South Africa we might be able to discern the nature of the glowboxes more readily, and with space on the skyranger we may be able to nab one for ourselves. The unit in Canada should be dealt with, since the Observatory in a country not designated by the team for anything important could in fact be extremely important. Hitting their UFO can ground them at the very least. If we control the terms of engagement by drawing them back to a besieged UFO that's all the better. CQB guy is added in as dense trees and a smol ufo can make for compact fighting quarters.

EDIT: Also, being a heavily forested area one group of ayyys is in, and the other having deployed material they'll need to recover, chances are these two are our best bet for getting guys there before the aliens fuck off into space.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 01:06:47 pm by Man of Paper »
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Re: XCOM Arms Race II : VIGILO CONFIDO
« Reply #106 on: July 03, 2019, 01:27:01 pm »

I vote Vengeful Line, but am too lazy to make the votebox.
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« Reply #107 on: July 03, 2019, 01:32:16 pm »

Does the Engineer reduce the price of TACTICAL, though?
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« Reply #108 on: July 03, 2019, 01:46:55 pm »

Oh right actually that's a good question. Applicable equipment is a little blurry when it's techy stuff, but rereading it the TACTICAL may remain full-price. Fractional pricing is awesome.
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« Reply #109 on: July 03, 2019, 06:12:41 pm »

Before I put my weight behind striking the Canadian UFO, what's a C2 loop, and why is it so damn important?
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« Reply #110 on: July 03, 2019, 08:36:11 pm »

C2 Loop is our "Command and Control" (Two Cs) loop. Basically, they're hitting a place which is tied into the network that we use to pass on orders and otherwise coordinate and control our assets, and we really don't want them to be reading our orders, much less, say, passing fake reports in to our network to mess us up, draw us into ambushes, or just cover up where they actually are doing shit.

Personally I'd like to hit Brazil just to find out what the hell they're actually doing with the museum, but we really do need to drop a clean up force on Canada.
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« Reply #111 on: July 03, 2019, 09:40:47 pm »

C2 Loop is our "Command and Control" (Two Cs) loop. Basically, they're hitting a place which is tied into the network that we use to pass on orders and otherwise coordinate and control our assets, and we really don't want them to be reading our orders, much less, say, passing fake reports in to our network to mess us up, draw us into ambushes, or just cover up where they actually are doing shit.

Personally I'd like to hit Brazil just to find out what the hell they're actually doing with the museum, but we really do need to drop a clean up force on Canada.
Ah, I see.  Agreed then with the force into Canada. 

Brazil I'm a little more hesitant about.  It sounds like it might just be a terror operation, which is bad enough, but not totally compromising.  Unless the aliens specifically choose to target it for some strange reason.  Weighing the odds, I think we have a mixture of potentially high damage (India) vs wounded pride (Brazil) vs emotional reaction (South Africa.)  While we might be able to take down the Indian UFO, I'm inclined to overlook Brazil and send assistance to South Africa.  Not sure if the curiosity is worthwhile in finding out what the aliens are after their specifically.
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Re: XCOM Arms Race II : VIGILO CONFIDO
« Reply #112 on: July 04, 2019, 01:49:04 pm »

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Note for GM: Looks like the equipment list has the old TACTICS price. Also, there's a listing for Close Combat Specialist but the Engineer is unlisted. Also, no listed price for the drone.

Fixed, Fixed and cost added. I'm pretty sure I didn't want to make it free.

Does the Engineer reduce the price of TACTICAL, though?
I'm afraid not.

This is for several reasons. Every soldier gets one (instead of the drone and turret, which can get babysat by the engineer), and they're not excessively complex. They're also not robots, drones, turrets, and suchlike.

C2 Loop is our "Command and Control" (Two Cs) loop. Basically, they're hitting a place which is tied into the network that we use to pass on orders and otherwise coordinate and control our assets, and we really don't want them to be reading our orders, much less, say, passing fake reports in to our network to mess us up, draw us into ambushes, or just cover up where they actually are doing shit.

Personally I'd like to hit Brazil just to find out what the hell they're actually doing with the museum, but we really do need to drop a clean up force on Canada.

On the Canada situation, your command group is kinda weirded out by the entire thing. You haven't used this link (it's a back-up), so there should be no way for the aliens to know that you're using it. Unless they have prescience, you people are guessing it's bad luck, and the aliens are there for some other reason.
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« Reply #113 on: July 04, 2019, 01:57:38 pm »

The Sky Eye drone literally a piece of almost-civilian equipment---we could probably acquire something identical (if not as integrated into our systems) from any military. I would definitely like it to be Cheap, anyway :P
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« Reply #114 on: July 04, 2019, 02:02:16 pm »

The Sky Eye drone literally a piece of almost-civilian equipment---we could probably acquire something identical (if not as integrated into our systems) from any military. I would definitely like it to be Cheap, anyway :P
It's 0.5 EP, so it's not exactly expensive.
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« Reply #115 on: July 04, 2019, 02:04:10 pm »

Yeah but that's quite a lot, effectively, given our starting budget. If one tiny quadcopter is that expensive I shudder to think how we're actually paying for advanced weaponry and armor.
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« Reply #116 on: July 04, 2019, 02:11:07 pm »

Yeah but that's quite a lot, effectively, given our starting budget. If one tiny quadcopter is that expensive I shudder to think how we're actually paying for advanced weaponry and armor.

The cost represents all the crashed drones from our troops playing training with them during down time. (Note: Am not the GM, do not take my word as absolute fact)
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« Reply #117 on: July 04, 2019, 02:12:00 pm »

Yeah but that's quite a lot, effectively, given our starting budget. If one tiny quadcopter is that expensive I shudder to think how we're actually paying for advanced weaponry and armor.

You make a decent point. It could be possible I intended for it to be free.

I'll give you the choice. Put it in the votebox. You can get the the Sky Eye for free, or for 0.5. The 0.5 version would be more capable due to it's cost.
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« Reply #118 on: July 04, 2019, 02:13:50 pm »

More capable how, though? Surveillance drone is a surveillance drone is a surveillance drone, generally.


The world's militaries that make use of drones don't normally make use of super expensive ones with automatic missile avoidance or whatever, they just launch a bunch of cheap ones to have many camera angles.
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« Reply #119 on: July 04, 2019, 02:29:59 pm »

More capable how, though? Surveillance drone is a surveillance drone is a surveillance drone, generally.


The world's militaries that make use of drones don't normally make use of super expensive ones with automatic missile avoidance or whatever, they just launch a bunch of cheap ones to have many camera angles.

Abstractly harder for enemy stealth attempts to bypass and stuff like that. Ascribe it to better programming or more effective sensors or something like that.
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