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Craftsdwarf boi

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Applied material science
« on: May 24, 2019, 08:18:28 am »

Since there are numerous parameters of materials that are usually underused, they could be implemented into everyday dwarven life.
e.g slade(how did one do that?) walls will perform significantly better than potash ones during a siege.
e.g an adamantine mechanism would be more reliable than a rock one
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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2019, 01:07:49 pm »

I thought this was already the case, if not, then it should be added
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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2019, 02:22:41 pm »

Would it be applicable if i were to say that your suggestion were to add *more* applicable material functions to objects?

In the material RAW's currently the properties such as the melting temperature can be found; how dense they are and how easily they shatter in comparison to a knife's edge versus a blunt pummel. To take a example, adamantine is entirely stabproof, it has very high material properties but is actually quite weak when pummeled.

When destructible walls are added at some point for a later arc or saboteurs/animals will try to attack/dig through your walls your potash vs slade comparison will be entirely relevant, just that slade is very heavy but not quite as pick resistant as using a metal block for a wall.

Right now quality (masterwork quality particularly buffs objects, traps made out of masterwork gears don't jam as much, and masterwork armor is slightly more protective) determines some things rather than input of material, though using magma safe materials will certainly protect important machines that need to interact with it.
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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2019, 07:34:58 pm »

just that slade is very heavy but not quite as pick resistant as using a metal block for a wall.
Slade is supposed to be absolutely pick resistant. It's only through a glitch that you can obtain it.
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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2019, 10:57:21 pm »

A sad day when walling yourself off from everyone with a bar of soap will no longer be enough to save the fortress from your were-curse.
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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2019, 02:09:25 am »

A sad day when walling yourself off from everyone with a bar of soap will no longer be enough to save the fortress from your were-curse.

Except monsters made of filfth.

just that slade is very heavy but not quite as pick resistant as using a metal block for a wall.
Slade is supposed to be absolutely pick resistant. It's only through a glitch that you can obtain it.

Fair point, i'd forgotten exactly HOW strong slade is, it might even over-complicate how we get into the circus if we need to make adamantine strength picks first for a veeeery slow breakthrough or a ground boring drill/moving fortress part to loosen.
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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2019, 11:02:23 am »

just that slade is very heavy but not quite as pick resistant as using a metal block for a wall.
Slade is supposed to be absolutely pick resistant. It's only through a glitch that you can obtain it.

Fair point, i'd forgotten exactly HOW strong slade is, it might even over-complicate how we get into the circus if we need to make adamantine strength picks first for a veeeery slow breakthrough or a ground boring drill/moving fortress part to loosen.

The ores don't need (and don't have) the same material properties as their corresponding metals.

One thing I could see being done with the tools currently available is constructed tiles being affected by heat. Currently constructed ice walls are completely immune by heat, even if touched by lava. However, considering natural ice blocks do melt, some kind of framework should be there for implementing universal wall-melting.

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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2019, 08:47:43 am »

This will also apply to fluid dynamics.
...which makes massive molten iron(and magma) springs and pressure guns possible
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Re: Applied material science
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2019, 11:42:41 am »

This will also apply to fluid dynamics.
...which makes massive molten iron(and magma) springs and pressure guns possible
This sounds cool.
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