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[daggaz]

So floors are awful, you can't build anything on them, which means they aren't really floors, they're more like walls that block everything from being in the same place, unless you happen to be a dwarf or a goblin chasing a dwarf, in which for the latter case they are all too much like floors and not at all enough like walls.  Walls on the other hand are more or less like floors, at least if you are on top of them, and otherwise they make perfectly good walls if you happen to be hiding behind one.  They just suck at being floors when it comes time to building the floor out of walls.  But then again, so do floors, for their own reasons, not least of which is trying to put more walls on top of the floor when the floor is done. 

So.  How do you guys build your multi-storey constructions?  Do you have living space every second floor, with no floors but solid walls making up the walls and the floors, or do you go the easy and more eye-pleasing route and build conventional floors, only to find you cant actually put anything on the floor to make your home seem a bit more cozy before the goblins dwarves burn it down? 

And why can't floors be more like walls when you need them to be actual floors? 

tl;dr: Allow the construction/placement of things on top of floors.  And for that matter, allow engravings on walls constructed out of blocks.

[therahedwig]

So floors are awful, you can't build anything on them, which means they aren't really floors, they're more like walls that block everything from being in the same place, unless you happen to be a dwarf or a goblin chasing a dwarf, in which for the latter case they are all too much like floors and not at all enough like walls.

Huh? I've build furniture on floors, and workshops. The only thing you can't build on floors is other constructions, and that's only because then 'remove construction' gets confused.

[anewaname]

So.  How do you guys build your multi-storey constructions?  Do you have living space every second floor, with no floors but solid walls making up the walls and the floors, or do you go the easy and more eye-pleasing route and build conventional floors, only to find you cant actually put anything on the floor to make your home seem a bit more cozy before the goblins dwarves burn it down?

So, if I want a 10z building, I build a 10z up/down stairs, then build a floor 11z in the air (this is the rain umbrella). Then, starting at 0z, build the other walls, then the inner walls, then go to 1z and make a floor over the entire area and use 'q' 'x' to remove all floor tiles where wall-tops exist. When that is done, do it again with a new set of outer walls and continue upward.

That said, I currently prefer subterranean bedrooms for the engravings and ease of production, with all workshops and meetings areas above ground.

If the goblins or undead arrive, get all the builders away from the unfinished areas so they are not seen.

[Libash_Thunderhead]

Just don't build floors on top of walls you'll be fine. You can build 4 adjacent floors around the top of a wall.

[Schmaven]

I just do it the hard way and remove the floor constructions where I want a wall to go.  I suppose better planning on my part could resolve the issue, but until then, it's not going to doom my forts.

[Dunamisdeos]

You can place buildings and furniture on floors. You can only place one CONSTRUCTION per tile, that being walls/floors/stairs.

[doublestrafe]

I pour a gigantic obsidian block and carve whatever I want in it.

[daggaz]

I must have misremembered or got it backwards (once I triedputting floorgrates over statues and that failed.  Still, its such a hassle you can't put a construction on a floor. 

[Dunamisdeos]

Smooth the spot instead. Then you can build constructions on that.

[Bumber]

I must have misremembered or got it backwards (once I triedputting floorgrates over statues and that failed.

Floor grates are buildings. Can't put a building on a building.

[Pvt. Pirate]

I pour a gigantic obsidian block and carve whatever I want in it.

i wish it was that easy. don't you need to construct a casting form first?

[PatrikLundell]

I pour a gigantic obsidian block and carve whatever I want in it.

i wish it was that easy. don't you need to construct a casting form first?

You do, as well as pump magma and water for the casting. Alternatively, you can use DFHack to just magically produce obsidian (the script is called something like "liquids").

[Pvt. Pirate]

the latter soudns liek cheating - the first involves building constructions, which we want to not do.

[Dunamisdeos]

The first is easily the most efficient way (with setup) to make large swaths of natural stone.

The second is 100% cheating and I got past it a long time ago. Hail DFHack.

[Schmaven]

Sounds like a slippery slope toward the kill command on a dragon or werebeast to me.