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Author Topic: Do Volcanoes erupt now?  (Read 8362 times)

thegoatgod_pan

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Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« on: April 20, 2019, 05:14:27 pm »
Just started a latest version fort, everyone died to zombies, I reclaimed, and now the volcano's magma level is slowly but surely rising. It has overtaken the stairs down I was building into the caldera and will soon overtake the lip of the caldera itself.

Is this a feature or an interesting bug?

Does anyone want to see the save?
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thegoatgod_pan

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 05:23:11 pm »
Yup natural magmafall up in here now. I think the strain on the FPS is probably massive, but still super interesting.
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Quote from: Michaelsoftman on April 01, 2012, 05:32:21 pm
More ridiculous than reindeer?  Where you think you supercool and is you things the girls where I honestly like I is then why are humans on their as my people or what would you?

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 05:51:57 pm »
Coool. That's absolutely a bug, and I absolutely do want to see the save.
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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 07:46:19 pm »
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Quote from: Michaelsoftman on April 01, 2012, 05:32:21 pm
More ridiculous than reindeer?  Where you think you supercool and is you things the girls where I honestly like I is then why are humans on their as my people or what would you?

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 08:46:37 pm »
Magma pools in a caverns will do the same thing in a reclaim, flooding magma into caverns and causing collapse messages as trees burn. Map-edge fortifications will stop allowing water off the map. Salt water will flood tunnels below the ocean (but above the caverns I believe).
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There is something to be said about, if the stakes are as high, maybe reconsider your certitudes. One has to be aggressively allistic to feel entitled to be able to trust. But it won't happen to me, my bit doesn't count etc etc... Just saying, after my recent experiences I couldn't trust the public if I wanted to. People got their risk assessment neurons rotten and replaced with game theory. Folks walk around like fat turkeys taunting the world to slaughter them.

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 09:36:32 pm »
Interesting--when did this start?  I often reclaimed forts from 2012 on, often picked sites with either lots of water or lots of magma and have never seen this before.
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Quote from: Michaelsoftman on April 01, 2012, 05:32:21 pm
More ridiculous than reindeer?  Where you think you supercool and is you things the girls where I honestly like I is then why are humans on their as my people or what would you?

anewaname

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 11:11:06 pm »
I do not know, but my current embark has both issues.

The ocean is flooding in through the previous embark's map-edge fortifications, about 23 z's below the lowest ocean level (the funny part is that I intentionally exited the water below the ocean because it amused me, and now my FPS is paying for it).
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The magma is slowly obsidian-izing a cavern lake.
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Edit: The magma pool has been found and the magma flow is being created 3 z's above where the magma would normally sit in the magma pool, which is one z below the top z of the magma pool's tube formation.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 08:51:59 pm by anewaname »
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There is something to be said about, if the stakes are as high, maybe reconsider your certitudes. One has to be aggressively allistic to feel entitled to be able to trust. But it won't happen to me, my bit doesn't count etc etc... Just saying, after my recent experiences I couldn't trust the public if I wanted to. People got their risk assessment neurons rotten and replaced with game theory. Folks walk around like fat turkeys taunting the world to slaughter them.

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 07:25:44 am »
Yeah - I built an ocean side retreat with a complicated pump system with bridges as locks to refill a cistern (for a well and fishing). Upon reclaiming, water was shooting upwards from the well into the rest of the fort. It stopped after a flip of the bridge switches - but I still haven't figured out how it happened. Almost seems like a duplication bug for water tiles or something.
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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 11:08:15 am »
It seems that the reclaim triggers a check of the map-edge tiles of the ocean region (everything above the caverns), and if an edge tile is open to the map, as the fortifications allow, then it becomes a spawn point for the ocean water after the reclaim.

For the magma pool (which is within the caverns but below the ocean), the magma spawn points either moved or were copied, from the floor of the cavern to the ceiling of the cavern. I cannot determine if the magma spawn points that were at the floor of the cavern at still there.
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There is something to be said about, if the stakes are as high, maybe reconsider your certitudes. One has to be aggressively allistic to feel entitled to be able to trust. But it won't happen to me, my bit doesn't count etc etc... Just saying, after my recent experiences I couldn't trust the public if I wanted to. People got their risk assessment neurons rotten and replaced with game theory. Folks walk around like fat turkeys taunting the world to slaughter them.

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2019, 04:20:08 pm »
i think i noticed this on an adventurer once? dunno what save it was or even where it was, unfortunately, but it was coming up over the underground road
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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2019, 11:24:40 am »
Known bug since at least 0.40.10, possibly earlier.
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Quote from: Lord Dakoth on September 17, 2009, 10:47:58 pm
It's amazing how dwarves can make a stack of bones completely waterproof and magmaproof.
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It's amazing how they can make an entire floodgate out of the bones of 2 cats.

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2019, 01:37:18 am »
You say bug, some say essential feature.   :D
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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2019, 09:38:42 am »
Quote from: daggaz on May 27, 2019, 01:37:18 am
You say bug, some say essential feature.   :D

If it was a feature, then it would happen immediately after embark and you wouldn't have to abandon+reclaim or retire+unretire first.
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Quote from: Lord Dakoth on September 17, 2009, 10:47:58 pm
It's amazing how dwarves can make a stack of bones completely waterproof and magmaproof.
Quote from: Neruz on September 18, 2009, 06:58:26 am
It's amazing how they can make an entire floodgate out of the bones of 2 cats.

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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2019, 10:02:19 am »
I was thinking more of a big red button hidden in one of the menus.   Push q-v-l-b-shift.d-V for volcanic armageddon. 
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Re: Do Volcanoes erupt now?
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2019, 10:12:59 am »
Quote from: Quietust on May 26, 2019, 11:24:40 am
Known bug since at least 0.40.10, possibly earlier.
Aye, and before that, we had... this.

Quote from: daggaz on May 27, 2019, 10:02:19 am
Push q-v-l-b-shift.d-V for volcanic armageddon.
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