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[methylatedspirit]

There's nothing stopping you from breaching all three cavern layers to get to the magma, no? It's just that, taking that route could kill the fort six ways from Sunday. Keywords include "megabeast", "reanimating biome", "zombiefied wildlife", and "accidental flooding". But you know, apart from that, "perfectly" "good" plan.

[wierd]

Now now now..

I was not meaning "mass processing" here, more "A single hammer dwarf is a singe point of failure", and getting say, 3 to 4 more hammers (which should be quite doable with some wood to use as fuel) would be very beneficial at some near to future point.

Also, doesn't double-slit still work?  (also, max-subregions is turned to max. This means there is a good chance the aquifer could be simply bypassed by looking for an edge.)

[methylatedspirit]

Alright, that puts the maximum number of logs needed at 8 (smelting 4 zinc bars to make 4 war hammers). Not exactly the end of the world, I can't see any major problems with that plan.

[Hanslanda]

Ptw

[methylatedspirit]

Can I be dorfed? I'd like one of the peasants* of the next migration wave, preferably male.
*If not available, the least skilled. If that's not available, the dumbest.

[Superdorf]

Tangentially related, but, this is what DFhack believes the density of smokerock to be.

This is what DFhack thinks of the molar mass (in kg/mol, probably) of smokerock. Keep in mind, the molar mass of hydrogen molecules is around 2000 kg/mol, and the average molar mass of dry air is around 29000 kg/mol.

DFhack's drunk, it needs to go home.

Ahh that's hilarious. This stuff is so broken.

We could arguably make zinc hammers out of all that sphalerite... As well as zinc barrels/bins..  the issue is fuel at this point.

Also-- You *CAN* put the smoke boulders to use as something other than raw building material since jewelers can cut and encrust with it.  Its not worth a lot, but it builds the skill, and gets rid of the stuff.


I suggest creation of an atom smasher to effectively deal with the hair menace. Hair zombies are particularly difficult to put down by ordinary means.

No problem. Anything's fine, although I'd prefer male.

Alright then.

The queen? Well, that's quite the offer. I accept. The great scholar Solitarian shall bring us to victory... or be eaten by a weretree.

Queen Solitarian it is!

We could arguably make zinc hammers out of all that sphalerite... As well as zinc barrels/bins..  the issue is fuel at this point.

You can make hammers out of zinc? Cool! I might just, though I'm a little reluctant to burn potential aquifer-piercing supplies...

Also-- You *CAN* put the smoke boulders to use as something other than raw building material since jewelers can cut and encrust with it.  Its not worth a lot, but it builds the skill, and gets rid of the stuff.

Noted. It's kinda fun building stuff with it, though... such bright happy colors!

I suggest creation of an atom smasher to effectively deal with the hair menace. Hair zombies are particularly difficult to put down by ordinary means.

Hm, yes, either that or magma. I'd prefer magma.

There's nothing stopping you from breaching all three cavern layers to get to the magma, no? It's just that, taking that route could kill the fort six ways from Sunday. Keywords include "megabeast", "reanimating biome", "zombiefied wildlife", and "accidental flooding". But you know, apart from that, "perfectly" "good" plan.

We will breach that aquifer, and we will dig down to magma, come what may. It's just a matter of time.

Now now now... I was not meaning "mass processing" here, more "A single hammer dwarf is a singe point of failure", and getting say, 3 to 4 more hammers (which should be quite doable with some wood to use as fuel) would be very beneficial at some near to future point.

Hm, point taken. If I can't breach the aquifer in a timely fashion, I'll look into some wood-burning.

Also, doesn't double-slit still work?  (also, max-subregions is turned to max. This means there is a good chance the aquifer could be simply bypassed by looking for an edge.)

I'm pretty sure I combed the whole world for an embark-spanning aquifer... soo, I'll be using this method to pierce the thing straight through the middle.

Can I be dorfed? I'd like one of the peasants* of the next migration wave, preferably male.
*If not available, the least skilled. If that's not available, the dumbest.

Sure. I usually draft such dorfs into the military-- would you rather yours remain a civilian?

Today's going to be busy, especially with the snow to clean up. I'll try and put up an update at some point or other, but... no promises.

[wierd]

(quick google says no, DF does not let you make pure zinc weapons, which is silly; it has similar working properties to pure copper, and a similar mass) 

Oh well.  If you find any copper, you can turn it into heavier bronze at least.

[MCreeper]

Can i join?

[Superdorf]

Can i join?

Sure, welcome aboard! I'll put you on the turnlist.

So I've been wondering... do we want a new thread title? The current one's just a placeholder, really.

[methylatedspirit]

Can I be dorfed? I'd like one of the peasants* of the next migration wave, preferably male.
*If not available, the least skilled. If that's not available, the dumbest.

Sure. I usually draft such dorfs into the military-- would you rather yours remain a civilian?

Do whatever you want with them. It's probably inefficient to train their skills up from scratch.

[Solitarian]

I eagerly anticipate the gruesome death of my regal dwarf.

So I've been wondering... do we want a new thread title? The current one's just a placeholder, really.

Yes! The title should definitely reflect the peculiarity of this game's duplicated raws. Here are some suggestions.

Dawnthunder: duplicator of raws
Dawnthunder: menaces with spikes of duplicated raws
Dawnthunder: double raws, double fun
Dawnthunder: !!duplicated raws!!
Dawnthunder: Duplicatedraws the Death of Dying

[methylatedspirit]

I have one suggestion, but it's a bad joke:
Dawnthunder: smokerock's one hell of a drug.

[Superdorf]

I have one suggestion, but it's a bad joke:
Dawnthunder: smokerock's one hell of a drug.

That is a truly terrible joke. I love it. 

So consensus seems to be we do indeed need a new title. The more suggestions we have for this before we pick, the better.

[Superdorf]

15th of Slate
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The food stockpile was plenty big enough for now, so Scourge decided to scout out the area around the aquifer a little bit. Just as she was getting into a rhythm, her pick lodged in something. She pulled on it, and--



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"What?"
"It's exactly that, The cavern is the aquifer."

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"There's some slate, and then wet sand all the way to the bottom. And you know what that means?" asked Scourge, grinning. "We don't have to touch it! We can just build straight through and keep going!"

"That's... but that's wonderful!" cried Daedalus. "Everybody, grab some smokerock and get down there!" And with that, Daedalus grabbed a chunk of the stuff himself and charged down the stairs hoisting it triumphantly over his head.



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And so it went for the next several days. The dwarves of Dawnthunder scurried up and down, up and down, hauling smokerock down into the caverns while Scourge dug below, carving through rock like a dwarf possessed. Soon she'd cracked open another two caverns, and was forced to stop while the others built stairways down.






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20th of Slate
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Another day, another block. The dwarves had run out of smokerock, and so Daedalus took a block of slate with him as he descended into the caverns. He stopped at the opening to the third cavern, taking a moment to admire the wondrous expanse below him. Layers of phyllite gave way to magnificient columns of petrified wood, which yielded in turn to white marble and-- wait.

Was that...?



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Daedalus danced onto the workshop floor, spinning with his arms spread wide. "Divine metal!" he cried. "Metal of the gods! Metal sublime! Oh joy! Oh rapture! Oh-- Olon! How goes the pot-making?"

"Great!" said Olon. "My name's not Olon though!"
"What?"

"My name's not Olon," said not-Olon. "I changed it!"
"...You've been Olon all the years I've known you."

"But all the years you've known me," said not-Olon patiently, "I wasn't a queen. Now I am! And a new queen should have a new name!"
"Ah," said Daedalus. "So... what's your new name?"

"Solitarian," said Solitarian.



"My name is Solitarian. And as your newly named queen, I command thee: make me three pair of boots."
"What?"



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Our military problems are solved!

[delphonso]

Hopefully that rusted metal can be processed somehow.