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carlospaul

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Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« on: February 22, 2019, 11:17:17 pm »

Pretty much what the title says. Maybe you want to force a LOT OF BEER down someone's throat so that they get mega drunk. Also be able to eat anything that fits into your mouth (it annoys me that you can't eat anything you want, only lick inedible things)
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2019, 05:45:50 pm »

Pretty much what the title says. Maybe you want to force a LOT OF BEER down someone's throat so that they get mega drunk. Also be able to eat anything that fits into your mouth (it annoys me that you can't eat anything you want, only lick inedible things)
That's the way it works right now. Hand someone a mug of something and, if they've a free hand, they'll drink it immediately, regardless of its contents. Repeat until dead.

This is not necessarily a good thing.
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2019, 08:01:33 pm »

I've officially decided that my next adventure mode megaproject will be to get the entire population of a settlement lethally shit-faced. I have you to thank for the idea, Shonai. :P
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2019, 08:18:30 pm »

I've officially decided that my next adventure mode megaproject will be to get the entire population of a settlement lethally shit-faced. I have you to thank for the idea, Shonai. :P
Now work out how to get all sorts of weird stuff into a mug. Mud, snow, stones, knives...
The true masters have figured out how to get someone to drink themselves.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2019, 06:57:44 pm »

It could be useful to force someone to drink poison.
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 06:50:40 am »

Pretty much what the title says. Maybe you want to force a LOT OF BEER down someone's throat so that they get mega drunk. Also be able to eat anything that fits into your mouth (it annoys me that you can't eat anything you want, only lick inedible things)

There needs to be bad consequences for eating inedible things if we allow ourselves to eat anything.
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 04:41:45 pm »

You drink the lye.
You feel really full.
You drink the lye.
It's too much, you might not be able to keep it down!
You vomit.
You drink the lye.
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 10:25:36 am »

Would a dwarven parent forcing a baby to eat trigger a combat report?
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2019, 11:30:00 am »

Pretty much what the title says. Maybe you want to force a LOT OF BEER down someone's throat so that they get mega drunk.

Being able to forcefeed anything to anyone would have potenial for doing things that are both awesome and terrifying.

Feeding someone their own guts, anyone?

Also be able to eat anything that fits into your mouth (it annoys me that you can't eat anything you want, only lick inedible things)

I suspect not being able to eat inedible things is a consequence of the whole food and drink system being a placeholder and the game produces that message because it isn't programmed to handle eating inedible things (yet(hopefully)).

Of course i can't probe the game's code itself but here is what i suspect happens:
Spoiler: Programming Stuff (click to show/hide)

Short version: Eating a thing causes it to simply be removed from the world.
To properly handle eating inedible things, the game would need to keep track of what was eaten.
I feel like my Innate containers and glands thread is highly relevant here.

There needs to be bad consequences for eating inedible things if we allow ourselves to eat anything.
Not really. Aside from swallowing sharp or poisonous things, most stuff isn't really going to do significant harm if you can swallow it. Unless whatever you swallow can't pass your stomach or throat, it's gonna be coming out the other end sooner or later.
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2019, 07:34:52 am »

Not really. Aside from swallowing sharp or poisonous things, most stuff isn't really going to do significant harm if you can swallow it. Unless whatever you swallow can't pass your stomach or throat, it's gonna be coming out the other end sooner or later.

Plenty of things you can swallow are doing to mess up your digestive system, gravel for instance.  Sharp is also a funny concept as well, some things become sharp after you eat them because they get ground down and dissolved by digestive acids. 

If you eat indigestible things in moderation they might just pass through.  Eaten in large quantities is fare more deadly, the game needs to understand the long-term consequences of force feedings NPCs large quantities of such things. 
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Re: Be Able to Force Someone to Eat or Drink an Item in Your Hand
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2019, 08:29:33 am »

Plenty of things you can swallow are doing to mess up your digestive system, gravel for instance.  Sharp is also a funny concept as well, some things become sharp after you eat them because they get ground down and dissolved by digestive acids. 

If you eat indigestible things in moderation they might just pass through.  Eaten in large quantities is fare more deadly, the game needs to understand the long-term consequences of force feedings NPCs large quantities of such things. 

Not every infinitely small detail needs to be simulated. Paint in broad strokes first, if it looks good, add some detail.
Also, too much of anything will kill you.
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