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[neutrino431]

Is there any way to take out that ONE guy (you know the guy) in charge of a goblin civ without losing much of your military? Every time I try to take out the dark tower, my military is ravaged and the leader is unaffected, even when the soldiers are legendary.

[Untrustedlife]

go in with an adventurer and kill them that way?

[Shonai_Dweller]

Yeah, death-by-adventurer is the sure way.
Coming up we might see hired assassins and even (should Toady put off the Big-Wait until next year), challenging the gobbos to a real field battle. Make sure to hire an elephant from the elves, they always seem to work in worldgen battles.

[anewaname]

I had a nearby goblin civ revolt against their leader and that leader killed 5000+ goblins. Sure, goblins are wimpy, but after seeing that, I suspect that 100 elite dwarfs might still fail.

[Dunamisdeos]

I'm about to try with 50, masterwork everything, first squad has candy weapons.

Will report back.

[Loomy]

I'm about to try with 50, masterwork everything, first squad has candy weapons.

Will report back.

So how did it go?

[Dunamisdeos]

Everyone died horribly because I had two kinds of demons with flying and webs and one type with a full-body necrotizing dust effect XD

[Shonai_Dweller]

Everyone died horribly because I had two kinds of demons with flying and webs and one type with a full-body necrotizing dust effect XD

You get all that info from the raid reports?

[Dunamisdeos]

Everyone died horribly because I had two kinds of demons with flying and webs and one type with a full-body necrotizing dust effect XD

You get all that info from the raid reports?

Wait. Wait no. No I have multiple demon/goblin slaying irons in the fire right now. My bad. Wrong thread.

Anyway they did all die. No matter how many troops I send, like 4 individual soldiers end up actually fighting and the rest apparently die or surrender immediately. The ones that fight somehow die to regular goblins. No idea how to crack a dark fortress like that militarily.

[Iduno]

In fortress mode I've had luck with digging out underneath a goblin tower, installing a column with a lever, and cutting a trench around the building. Bit of lag, but good results, and entertaining.

It's been a few versions, but that or leaving the pumps running to flood everything (include a switch outside of the flood plain so you can avoid flooding the world) should work.

[Dunamisdeos]

In fortress mode I've had luck with digging out underneath a goblin tower, installing a column with a lever, and cutting a trench around the building. Bit of lag, but good results, and entertaining.

It's been a few versions, but that or leaving the pumps running to flood everything (include a switch outside of the flood plain so you can avoid flooding the world) should work.

Did not think about embark anywhere options.

Good call.

I'd love to find one that does not involve DF-Hacking my way to victory though.

[CaptainArchmage]

I think one issue, is that the ambusher skill actually affects the results a lot more than the training of the dwarves. Effectively, if you can find a good dwarf to be a general, then they would overcome the threat far more easily than having a large number of highly trained dwarves with great armour.

This might be subject to change in a new version.

[Dunamisdeos]

Military Tactics also affects this. I've had descriptions where my dwarves win that roll and start out in an advantageous position and still kill not a single goblin.

To be clear in my current situation there are TEN goblins to my 50 supersolider dwarves. Most of the time the overlord never even joins the battle.

[CaptainArchmage]

Military Tactics also affects this. I've had descriptions where my dwarves win that roll and start out in an advantageous position and still kill not a single goblin.

To be clear in my current situation there are TEN goblins to my 50 supersolider dwarves. Most of the time the overlord never even joins the battle.

This, the battle isn't rolled like a normal one. I think there's a plan to rewrite this soon (as in before the long wait and steam releases), but for now the best way to deal with the situation is have an adventurer kill the goblin general or overlord.

According to some sources I saw (wiki I think) this will cause the tide to turn against the goblins very quickly.

[Dunamisdeos]

I'm calling this a bug. It seems that asking them to surrender will result in instant capitulation, whereupon the master of the place is simply executed.

I feel like if that's the case I should be able to defeat them militarily as well.